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TrekLog » Blog Archive » ShatnerVision: Bill über Trek XI… [5] — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:39:00 +0000

[...] Welche Rolle bekommt Nimoy? Falls Nimoy dabei sein sollte, scheint es nur zwei Möglichkeiten zu geben. Eine Möglichkeit wäre ein älterer Spock (wahrscheinlich nach Star Trek VII: Generations angesiedelt) in Form von Vorausblenden (Abrams mag solche einfach). Die andere Möglichkeit wäre eine anderer Charakter, vielleicht Spock’s Vater Sarek. Nimoy selbst hat mal gesagt, offen dafür zu sein, Spock nochmal zu spielen, falls die Rolle Substanz hätte, und er schien auch dazu offen zu sein, Sarek zu spielen. [...]

By: SpHeRe31459

SpHeRe31459 — Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:15:13 +0000

“Additionally, Michael and Denise Okuda surprised the audience with an appearance on Saturday, in which they introduced the first clip reel of the remastered Star Trek episodes.”

Ahh man I haven’t been to a convention in say 10 years, this is what I get for not keeping up!

By: Ky-Malairn

Ky-Malairn — Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:07:34 +0000

I guess I’m in the minority here with wanting to see these two one more time. Ah, well. I still have the fingers crossed that these guys are being courted to bookend the film. Abrams is a flashback whore. He has tremendous respect for these two actors. I can’t see him passing up the opportunity.

Again, I stand by what I wrote about Damon being miscast as Kirk. I don’t think he has the weight to carry the role. Shatner was a man you believed could be in charge of a ship. He inspired people to follow him into battle. Damon… not so much. I think his name being dropped for the role was the prerequisite chore of naming a hot, young star off the top of the head who sorta, kinda fits the physical description. My guess is he will not be in this film.

As far as Shatner and Hunter having much experience when they took on their respective roles. I won’r argue that, however, the roles they took were original creations. My point was any “name” actor who takes on the role is going to be perceived as said name actor pretending he’s Captain Kirk. I’m all for casting a lesser known performer. No 20-somethings, that’s for sure. Someone age appropriate who has experience but is not a well known star. I think they are apt to be more successful giving their interpretation of the role without the baggage of prior fame hampering the audience’s accepting of their portrayel.

By: Allen

Allen — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:26:03 +0000

Yes, yes, & Yes! By the by, the original captain in the pilot, The Cage, was Jeffery Hunter, who was also a star by ‘66. No reason that a star can’t play Kirk. Plus, I am hopeful of it being someone like Damon…wouldn’t you rather the “young” be played by someone in his 30’s, rather than some 22 year old talentless punk?
I don’t need old Kirk and Spock to bookend the movie. Clean break. They can live on in spirit, we already have those memories, who needs them to kindle more? I will just be sad when I see how OLD they have become, which means how old I have become.

By: Magic_Al

Magic_Al — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:19:16 +0000

Shatner was hardly unknown when Star Trek came along. I could certainly accept Matt Damon if he can act the part and recreate the chemistry between his new Kirk and a new Spock and McCoy. What Star Trek needs at this point, when the spin-offs have ended and the original cast is no longer complete, is for the original and best characters to become separated from the actors who played them for the first time, so that the CHARACTERS can live on. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy form a classic trinity of courage, reason, and passion from which great stories almost naturally flow. All the spin-off series, although sometimes great in their own ways, were challenged by the need to be different, which meant they could not use the same simple, and best, formula as the original series. Having run only 3 seasons plus a dozen or so hours of feature film, the original formula is the least played-out and the least exhausted of any Star Trek series. Being so simple, it is also more flexible for writers to work with. We’ve seen TNG, VOY, and even DS9 ultimately, in their later seasons, become somewhat straightjacketed by their own formulas, consisting of too many main characters with too much established history and too much reluctance by the producers to shake things up. Cut it down to the three basic heroes (plus great guest stars for them to play off of), loosen the rules, and an entire galaxy of ENTERTAINING stories can be unleashed. If Star Trek is to continue production, we need not only a new Kirk, but many new Kirks, played by generations of actors in succession. Just as there are many Hamlets and Lears, there can be many Kirks. As far as I’m concerned, we don’t need another spin-off series for a long, long time. The spin-off idea is what’s exhausted, not the idea of Star Trek. Bring back the original.

By: Ky-Malairn

Ky-Malairn — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:19:45 +0000

I’d have to disagree with most of the opinions here. I think that one earlier post had it right. This film is shaping to be a “win-win” for Paramount. Bring in the old guard to bookend the film.

The original characters are going to be recast… we know this. Paramount is gunning for the younger action-oriented audience. That’s who buys tickets. Abrams’ built his rep on the clever use of flashback to propel the narrative. The elements are there. 20 to 30 mins of Shatner and Nimoy, peppered throughout the film, where both timelines are dealing with parallel themes would work, in this fan’s opinion, and as stated earlier be a wise move for the studio who is obviously trying to walk the line between groundbreaking and nostalgic. Obviously Shatner and Nimoy can’t kick it like they did 40 years ago… hell, even 15 years ago. But, I expect they would be picking up the cerebral slack of the picture while their younger counterparts did the action and effects portion.

Odds are these guys are gonna be in this movie. If nothing else to show the old fans that they’re personally giving the new actors playing their roles thumbs up. I don’t care if they’re in it for a pre-credit sequence. As long as we see these icons wearing the burgundy jackets one more time.

My only concern is a “star” taking over these parts. I think the two actors chosen to play Kirk and Spock should be unknowns, thus bringing no baggage to the role. We’re never going to accept Matt Damon, just as an example, as the good captain. Never mind that he doesn’t have the gravitas to pull it off. Any actor with a resume is going to be seen as “such and such” trying to be Kirk… or God forbid doing a William Shatner impersonation.