Comments on: City On The Edge Of Forever Remastered Promo http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/ the source for Star Trek news and information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:39:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Garry Todd http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1416 Garry Todd Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:50:27 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1416 My only gripe is that they cut some scenes from this episode, although that could be my affiliate maybe? The cut scenes included Kirk telling Spock "We have a flop" ("A what?" Spock asks. "A flop--a place to sleep," Kirk replies. "One might have said so in the first place, " counters Spock) and the derelict stealing McCoy's "fancy heater" and disintegrating himself.....other than that, this episode looks fantastic---clearer and sharper than ever to me. My .02 anyway GT My only gripe is that they cut some scenes from this episode, although that could be my affiliate maybe? The cut scenes included Kirk telling Spock “We have a flop” (”A what?” Spock asks. “A flop–a place to sleep,” Kirk replies. “One might have said so in the first place, ” counters Spock)
and the derelict stealing McCoy’s “fancy heater” and disintegrating himself…..other than that, this episode looks fantastic—clearer and sharper than ever to me.

My .02 anyway
GT

]]> By: Captain James B. Quirk http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1372 Captain James B. Quirk Sun, 08 Oct 2006 06:04:58 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1372 I loved it. 44 yr old, long term Trekker here and I loved it. I like both versions, but I thought the way the ship circled the planet, in the opening was beautiful I honestly don't know what to make of all the fuss. ???????? I've been watching this show since 69 and loved the planet. Makes perfect sense for a dead planet to have some atmosphere to it, or there would be oxygen to breath. The planet my be dead and lifeless, because in the past the life was killed by some cataclysm, but that doesn't neccesarily mean that it will not support life. I love this episode and have it on DVD. Have watched it many times, but I still saw it like a kid seeing through new eyes. I'm amazed at my fellow "old school" trekkers that consistantly find some thing to crab about. I'm honored that the attempt was made and love the new effects. Thanks Okudas! Oh yeah and BTW, Love the sound on my dolby home theater. Keep on Trekkin! =/\= I loved it. 44 yr old, long term Trekker here and I loved it. I like both versions, but I thought the way the ship circled the planet, in the opening was beautiful

I honestly don’t know what to make of all the fuss. ????????

I’ve been watching this show since 69 and loved the planet. Makes perfect sense for a dead planet to have some atmosphere to it, or there would be oxygen to breath. The planet my be dead and lifeless, because in the past the life was killed by some cataclysm, but that doesn’t neccesarily mean that it will not support life.

I love this episode and have it on DVD. Have watched it many times, but I still saw it like a kid seeing through new eyes.

I’m amazed at my fellow “old school” trekkers that consistantly find some thing to crab about.

I’m honored that the attempt was made and love the new effects.

Thanks Okudas! Oh yeah and BTW, Love the sound on my dolby home theater.

Keep on Trekkin! =/\=

]]> By: Jim J http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1328 Jim J Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:27:02 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1328 Wow, I think LOTS of people need to peace out. Frankly I still don't get how you people want this "dead world" to look like a place that virtually has no atmosphere. Heck, there is wind on the planets, "so there's gots ta be clouds, people!" Other than that, it looks pretty dead to me. Nothing that looks like plant life on the shot I have looked at. Maybe I need glasses? Wow, I think LOTS of people need to peace out. Frankly I still don’t get how you people want this “dead world” to look like a place that virtually has no atmosphere. Heck, there is wind on the planets, “so there’s gots ta be clouds, people!” Other than that, it looks pretty dead to me. Nothing that looks like plant life on the shot I have looked at. Maybe I need glasses?

]]> By: Zora http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1315 Zora Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:11:16 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1315 i have a right to my say too you sassy youngsters...i paid my dues boy/girl whatever.... Christ!, I was sneeking downstrairs w/my brother to watch star trek on fri nites at 10 on the local nbc outlet (wcsh tv) every friday night!, from 1968 on ...... I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY SAY TOO~! so....dont be a moon....lets get back to the moon! Star Trek gave us all hope for a better tommorow, back in the day!....and it still does 40 years later , I know Okuda, im in the industry, myself, under a alias, ii just want to see epic trek episodes... treated with the respect they deserve..all the time with these "reconstructions" of theirs. Okuda has been inconsistant, some of the old tech stuff looks better truth be told, and the sooner they realise it the sooner we will have a happy "medium"? peace out... i have a right to my say too you sassy youngsters…i paid my dues boy/girl whatever….

Christ!, I was sneeking downstrairs w/my brother to watch star trek on fri nites at 10 on the local nbc outlet (wcsh tv) every friday night!, from 1968 on ……

I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY SAY TOO~!

so….dont be a moon….lets get back to the moon!

Star Trek gave us all hope for a better tommorow, back in the day!….and it still does 40 years later , I know Okuda, im in the industry, myself, under a alias, ii just want to see epic trek episodes… treated with the respect they deserve..all the time with these “reconstructions” of theirs.

Okuda has been inconsistant, some of the old tech stuff looks better truth be told, and the sooner they realise it the sooner we will have a happy “medium”?

peace out…

]]> By: Cransy http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1311 Cransy Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:24:31 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1311 This messge is for Granger. Please understand that my "old line" was directly in reference to Zora. I am in total support of critiques of the effects, as long as they are presented in a respectful manner. The way Zora spoke of the Okuda's and the project in general was rude and tasteless. I would have hoped a Star Trek fan would have more tact and class than what he expressed in his comment. That's all, I'm done ranting now. This messge is for Granger. Please understand that my “old line” was directly in reference to Zora. I am in total support of critiques of the effects, as long as they are presented in a respectful manner. The way Zora spoke of the Okuda’s and the project in general was rude and tasteless. I would have hoped a Star Trek fan would have more tact and class than what he expressed in his comment. That’s all, I’m done ranting now.

]]> By: Granger http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1297 Granger Sat, 07 Oct 2006 10:51:55 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1297 Oh, how sad. The new world in CITY looks terrible! The old shot is so much better, because it artistically captures the concept of a dead world with its sad drab look - reminds one a bit of now-dry dead Mars, but with bruises. I also prefer the old big stars with lots of red to complement the planet. The new Earth-like world may be more realistic scientifically, but it doesn't appear in the shots I've seen to support the story concept nearly as well. I must offer friendly disagreement with the old line of "If you don't like it then don't watch it." It is fans' passion for the show that leads them to offer spirited critiques. I've been an avid TOS fan for over thirty years, and I am delighted they are cleaning it up and FINALLY making a stab at updating the cheesier effects. But I also enjoy it when we wring our hands about the artistic choices they are having to make...so long as we praise their successes even as we bemoan their failures. I'm sure there will also be new things to really like in CITY, but the changes to the planet strike me as detrimental to its emotional impact. Oh, how sad. The new world in CITY looks terrible! The old shot is so much better, because it artistically captures the concept of a dead world with its sad drab look – reminds one a bit of now-dry dead Mars, but with bruises. I also prefer the old big stars with lots of red to complement the planet.

The new Earth-like world may be more realistic scientifically, but it doesn’t appear in the shots I’ve seen to support the story concept nearly as well.

I must offer friendly disagreement with the old line of “If you don’t like it then don’t watch it.” It is fans’ passion for the show that leads them to offer spirited critiques. I’ve been an avid TOS fan for over thirty years, and I am delighted they are cleaning it up and FINALLY making a stab at updating the cheesier effects. But I also enjoy it when we wring our hands about the artistic choices they are having to make…so long as we praise their successes even as we bemoan their failures. I’m sure there will also be new things to really like in CITY, but the changes to the planet strike me as detrimental to its emotional impact.

]]> By: Josh http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1289 Josh Sat, 07 Oct 2006 04:50:46 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1289 What "feel" are you referencing exactly Zora? The thick black matte line surrounding the Enterprise, under illuminated hull, or the Lens Flare Supernova? I thought the point of this little exercise was to modernize the effects, not mimic the "feel" by recreating bad matte work. I like my Enterprises crisp and visible, that's probably why I enjoy what the Okuda's are doing. What “feel” are you referencing exactly Zora?

The thick black matte line surrounding the Enterprise, under illuminated hull, or the Lens Flare Supernova?

I thought the point of this little exercise was to modernize the effects, not mimic the “feel” by recreating bad matte work.

I like my Enterprises crisp and visible, that’s probably why I enjoy what the Okuda’s are doing.

]]> By: Keith http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1283 Keith Sat, 07 Oct 2006 01:40:11 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1283 I also think most of the effects are terrible. I also am seeing a pattern. All of the space/enterprise shots are poorly done. They have done a better job on other elements, such as the horta opening the tunnel, and background shots of Janus IV and in the Naked Time. It's not possible to please everybody in re-doing effects shots, but I honestly think they are doing a crappy job. They should spend more time and money to make it better or not do it all. I also think most of the effects are terrible. I also am seeing a pattern. All of the space/enterprise shots are poorly done. They have done a better job on other elements, such as the horta opening the tunnel, and background shots of Janus IV and in the Naked Time.

It’s not possible to please everybody in re-doing effects shots, but I honestly think they are doing a crappy job. They should spend more time and money to make it better or not do it all.

]]> By: Cransy http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 Cransy Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:10:38 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1273 If you don't like it, Don't watch it. Personally, I've been a Trek fan all my life. I'm 25 now and have watched TOS straight through ENT. I've got all the DVD's and appreciate each series for it's own strengths. I've watched every re-master at least twice, looking hard and analyzing every detail. My conclusion? We are seeing a TOS that none of us could have hoped for. Bright, detailed picture, perfect sound, and very good CGI. You have to remember that they wanted to keep true to the effects and shots used in TOS and yet still draw a new audience. That's what they are doing. And as a side note to Zora... The Okuda's have been responsible for effects on Star Trek since TNG, you have not. They understand it, they live it, and they are doing a fantastic service for all of us right now. Be Grateful, or don't watch. If you don’t like it, Don’t watch it. Personally, I’ve been a Trek fan all my life. I’m 25 now and have watched TOS straight through ENT. I’ve got all the DVD’s and appreciate each series for it’s own strengths. I’ve watched every re-master at least twice, looking hard and analyzing every detail. My conclusion? We are seeing a TOS that none of us could have hoped for. Bright, detailed picture, perfect sound, and very good CGI. You have to remember that they wanted to keep true to the effects and shots used in TOS and yet still draw a new audience. That’s what they are doing. And as a side note to Zora… The Okuda’s have been responsible for effects on Star Trek since TNG, you have not. They understand it, they live it, and they are doing a fantastic service for all of us right now. Be Grateful, or don’t watch.

]]> By: Lee http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-1268 Lee Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:30:28 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/04/city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered-promo/#comment-1268 Sorry guys, I'm all for the CGI work so far, but for me this lush looking little pleasure world is extremely out of place. On this one point I have to say the original is more appropriate. But that's just my opinion. Sorry guys, I’m all for the CGI work so far, but for me this lush looking little pleasure world is extremely out of place. On this one point I have to say the original is more appropriate.

But that’s just my opinion.

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