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	<title>Comments on: Review: &#8220;City On The Edge Of Forever&#8221; Remastered [w/ new pics &amp; vids]</title>
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		<title>By: Solar Trekkie</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/12/review-city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered/comment-page-1/#comment-2944518</link>
		<dc:creator>Solar Trekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were only four things good about Generations. The rest was just &quot;you-know-what.&quot;

1. TOS first half
2. Malcolm McDowell(the last person I would ever imagine being on ST
3. Lursa and B&#039;Tor being killed off.
4. Whoopi Goldberg, John Putch, Tim Russ, and Jeanette Goldstein

Nuff&#039; Said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were only four things good about Generations. The rest was just &#8220;you-know-what.&#8221;</p>
<p>1. TOS first half<br />
2. Malcolm McDowell(the last person I would ever imagine being on ST<br />
3. Lursa and B&#8217;Tor being killed off.<br />
4. Whoopi Goldberg, John Putch, Tim Russ, and Jeanette Goldstein</p>
<p>Nuff&#8217; Said.</p>
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		<title>By: Locutus</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/12/review-city-on-the-edge-of-forever-remastered/comment-page-1/#comment-2912542</link>
		<dc:creator>Locutus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Changing *anything* to Star Trek episodes is heresy and abomination !  They shouldn&#039;t have changed a single frame of the original print, like you don&#039;t CGI &quot;enhance&quot; a painting or statue. It&#039;s a work of ART, it is what it is, if you change it you damage it by definition.

Shame on whoever had the dirty job of defacing Star Trek episodes, THEY must have insisted themselves NOT to be credited and go down in Trek history as the vandals of TOS  !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing *anything* to Star Trek episodes is heresy and abomination !  They shouldn&#8217;t have changed a single frame of the original print, like you don&#8217;t CGI &#8220;enhance&#8221; a painting or statue. It&#8217;s a work of ART, it is what it is, if you change it you damage it by definition.</p>
<p>Shame on whoever had the dirty job of defacing Star Trek episodes, THEY must have insisted themselves NOT to be credited and go down in Trek history as the vandals of TOS  !!</p>
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		<title>By: David Avery</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is perhaps the best of all the episodes from the famed &quot;Star Trek&quot; series from the 60&#039;s. My father would let me stay up late to watch them when I was much younger. The point where Kirk holds back Macoy from saving Edith Keiler from being killed was the best acting scene for all three actors. The cold &quot;must be done&quot; stare of Spock; the &quot;frantic&quot; attempt at saving her by Macoy; and the &quot;heart-breaking&quot; reaction of what just happed by Kirk. One would think he would of decked Macoy for his statement, &quot;Jim...do you realize what you just did?&quot;, followed but Spocks&#039; s response of, &quot;Yes Doctor...he does.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is perhaps the best of all the episodes from the famed &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; series from the 60&#8217;s. My father would let me stay up late to watch them when I was much younger. The point where Kirk holds back Macoy from saving Edith Keiler from being killed was the best acting scene for all three actors. The cold &#8220;must be done&#8221; stare of Spock; the &#8220;frantic&#8221; attempt at saving her by Macoy; and the &#8220;heart-breaking&#8221; reaction of what just happed by Kirk. One would think he would of decked Macoy for his statement, &#8220;Jim&#8230;do you realize what you just did?&#8221;, followed but Spocks&#8217; s response of, &#8220;Yes Doctor&#8230;he does.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Keeble Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeble Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James T Kirk: Is how &quot;I&#039; view you, watching you, over the years, when you shwo your self, acting as you have you, have left A, asking question two me, and all it was as my eye&#039;s seen it, all it was was A, &quot;Airplane wing&quot; your unheard voice ove saying its out their on that, &quot;Airplane wing&quot; as it was very harie and ugly, what is reall, and what is, fake, what we see and what we dont see, and all it is, is A, &quot;LARGE FEET&quot; which shows it self its feet never the face the feet shrinks are remains large, and yet why, you as you are is rellie know as, &quot;William Shattner&quot; my name and who &quot;I&#039; undress my self two each ove you over the years has ment nothing, as we can see, and yes James T Kirk um not A, M9 sayer, and yes who was Edith Keeler, as you can see my name is, Keeble, and yes who rellie was, &quot;Edith Keeler&quot; and why as it is said, &quot;Edith Keeler must die&quot; ive search aasking the, inter search enging, info baout Edith Keeler, and yes how are you, &quot;James T Kirk, yes you, William Shattner&quot; when, &quot;I&#039; watch you each time with in my, &quot;Mines eye, &quot;I&#039; payutenchen&quot; knwoing each faser word means somthing, like this, word, &quot;InFractionInKrishun KripshunInfractionFraction=IN with in the mouth is the, Infraction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James T Kirk: Is how &#8220;I&#8217; view you, watching you, over the years, when you shwo your self, acting as you have you, have left A, asking question two me, and all it was as my eye&#8217;s seen it, all it was was A, &#8220;Airplane wing&#8221; your unheard voice ove saying its out their on that, &#8220;Airplane wing&#8221; as it was very harie and ugly, what is reall, and what is, fake, what we see and what we dont see, and all it is, is A, &#8220;LARGE FEET&#8221; which shows it self its feet never the face the feet shrinks are remains large, and yet why, you as you are is rellie know as, &#8220;William Shattner&#8221; my name and who &#8220;I&#8217; undress my self two each ove you over the years has ment nothing, as we can see, and yes James T Kirk um not A, M9 sayer, and yes who was Edith Keeler, as you can see my name is, Keeble, and yes who rellie was, &#8220;Edith Keeler&#8221; and why as it is said, &#8220;Edith Keeler must die&#8221; ive search aasking the, inter search enging, info baout Edith Keeler, and yes how are you, &#8220;James T Kirk, yes you, William Shattner&#8221; when, &#8220;I&#8217; watch you each time with in my, &#8220;Mines eye, &#8220;I&#8217; payutenchen&#8221; knwoing each faser word means somthing, like this, word, &#8220;InFractionInKrishun KripshunInfractionFraction=IN with in the mouth is the, Infraction</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revisiting this preparatory to writing another review, I noticed that I made a big error - I meant to describe the Guardian&#039;s Planet as rotating at something like three hundred miles a *minute* not three hundred miles an *hour* - the latter would be on the slow side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revisiting this preparatory to writing another review, I noticed that I made a big error &#8211; I meant to describe the Guardian&#8217;s Planet as rotating at something like three hundred miles a *minute* not three hundred miles an *hour* &#8211; the latter would be on the slow side.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice snapshot of Mc Coy.I especially like the glint of light off that one tooth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice snapshot of Mc Coy.I especially like the glint of light off that one tooth.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, I don&#039;t think that the CBS Digital effect looks very much like that at all.  It&#039;s much brighter -- far too luminous compared to windows, the saucer domes and so forth -- too color-saturated and the blades are too distinct.  The whole thing looks more like cell animation than any kind of real lighting effect.

Rob Bonchune&#039;s effect for the Defiant in &quot;In A Mirror, Darkly&quot; was vastly superior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I don&#8217;t think that the CBS Digital effect looks very much like that at all.  It&#8217;s much brighter &#8212; far too luminous compared to windows, the saucer domes and so forth &#8212; too color-saturated and the blades are too distinct.  The whole thing looks more like cell animation than any kind of real lighting effect.</p>
<p>Rob Bonchune&#8217;s effect for the Defiant in &#8220;In A Mirror, Darkly&#8221; was vastly superior.</p>
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		<title>By: Kipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, have we see a view of the Enterprise underside yet?  Does the CGI-generated Enterprise faithfully include the square-shaped red marking under the shuttlecraft bay? See http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv9a.jpg which is from The Alternative Factor (the only time this angle of the Enterprise was ever seen)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, have we see a view of the Enterprise underside yet?  Does the CGI-generated Enterprise faithfully include the square-shaped red marking under the shuttlecraft bay? See <a href="http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv9a.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv9a.jpg</a> which is from The Alternative Factor (the only time this angle of the Enterprise was ever seen)</p>
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		<title>By: Kipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the nacelle complaints are unjustified.  To me, they got the color and the effect just right.  (see http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv8a.jpg for comparison)

If I had to complain, It would be that the inset spherical end caps (aft) on the nacelles are slightly too small, and they are not reflective as were the originals (see http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv2a.jpg )

If the links above don&#039;t work, copy and paste them into a new browser instance, and they should work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the nacelle complaints are unjustified.  To me, they got the color and the effect just right.  (see <a href="http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv8a.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv8a.jpg</a> for comparison)</p>
<p>If I had to complain, It would be that the inset spherical end caps (aft) on the nacelles are slightly too small, and they are not reflective as were the originals (see <a href="http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv2a.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.retroweb.com/trek/trektv2a.jpg</a> )</p>
<p>If the links above don&#8217;t work, copy and paste them into a new browser instance, and they should work.</p>
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		<title>By: bdrcarter</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdrcarter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...so back to the Remastered reviews.  The more I watch of the new, old episodes, the more disappointed I become.  I had high expectations after seeing the work by Daren Dochterman and Eden FX that cropped up shortly before Remastered premiered.  CBS/Paramount missed a big opportunity by passing on those guys!  I think the vision of their proposals was the right balance of respect for the original work and the possibilities of CGI.  I wonder what Daren would have done with the decaying orbit in The Naked Now?  At least one exterior shot of the ship heating up in the atmosphere, maybe?  What could the Guardian&#039;s planet have looked like with a pan of the ruins on the surface?  There was plenty of time to have a Kirk POV shot in the horta&#039;s nest that paid off the horror of millions of broken eggs instead of a small handful.  These are a few examples of missed chances to expand on the original vision of Star Trek with today&#039;s technology without changing a beat of the storytelling.  And the shots that have been recreated don&#039;t seem fully realized.  I don&#039;t expect to see rivets on the ship&#039;s hull but where is the added depth we were hoping for?  The closing shot of the Enterprise in The Naked Now looks like a plastic model kit.  How about some subtle enhancements, like illumination from the impulse engines?  I&#039;m also surprised they haven&#039;t tried to enhance some of the other opticals.  I assumed (incorrectely) that they would update the hand phaser effects.  So far, the cartoony and inconsistent effects of the 60&#039;s live on.  (I&#039;m glad they added a beam to Scotty&#039;s phaser as he was cutting into the bulkhead..but where was the sound effect?)  I do think the new planet visuals are amazing and there have been a few nice surprises, like the exterior of the science station in The Naked Time, the close ups on Spock&#039;s tricorder and the matte work for the mining facility in Devil in the Dark.  (The opening shot with the digital guard seemlessly walking into the next shot in the cave?...Brilliant!)  Unfortunately, that&#039;s the kind of work I was expecting to see all the time, so I can&#039;t help but feel disappointed.  I think it&#039;s time for a visit to trekenhanced.com to see what could have been.  I hope someone at CBS gives it another look too.

(BTW, totally agree on TMP being underrated and that Generations was so bad that it singlehandedly started the decline of the franchise.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;so back to the Remastered reviews.  The more I watch of the new, old episodes, the more disappointed I become.  I had high expectations after seeing the work by Daren Dochterman and Eden FX that cropped up shortly before Remastered premiered.  CBS/Paramount missed a big opportunity by passing on those guys!  I think the vision of their proposals was the right balance of respect for the original work and the possibilities of CGI.  I wonder what Daren would have done with the decaying orbit in The Naked Now?  At least one exterior shot of the ship heating up in the atmosphere, maybe?  What could the Guardian&#8217;s planet have looked like with a pan of the ruins on the surface?  There was plenty of time to have a Kirk POV shot in the horta&#8217;s nest that paid off the horror of millions of broken eggs instead of a small handful.  These are a few examples of missed chances to expand on the original vision of Star Trek with today&#8217;s technology without changing a beat of the storytelling.  And the shots that have been recreated don&#8217;t seem fully realized.  I don&#8217;t expect to see rivets on the ship&#8217;s hull but where is the added depth we were hoping for?  The closing shot of the Enterprise in The Naked Now looks like a plastic model kit.  How about some subtle enhancements, like illumination from the impulse engines?  I&#8217;m also surprised they haven&#8217;t tried to enhance some of the other opticals.  I assumed (incorrectely) that they would update the hand phaser effects.  So far, the cartoony and inconsistent effects of the 60&#8217;s live on.  (I&#8217;m glad they added a beam to Scotty&#8217;s phaser as he was cutting into the bulkhead..but where was the sound effect?)  I do think the new planet visuals are amazing and there have been a few nice surprises, like the exterior of the science station in The Naked Time, the close ups on Spock&#8217;s tricorder and the matte work for the mining facility in Devil in the Dark.  (The opening shot with the digital guard seemlessly walking into the next shot in the cave?&#8230;Brilliant!)  Unfortunately, that&#8217;s the kind of work I was expecting to see all the time, so I can&#8217;t help but feel disappointed.  I think it&#8217;s time for a visit to trekenhanced.com to see what could have been.  I hope someone at CBS gives it another look too.</p>
<p>(BTW, totally agree on TMP being underrated and that Generations was so bad that it singlehandedly started the decline of the franchise.)</p>
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