Comments on: Kirk v Gorn…See The ‘Arena’ Remastered Promo http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/ the source for Star Trek news and information Fri, 25 May 2012 09:33:06 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Mike http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-3347749 Mike Sat, 02 Apr 2011 02:06:09 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-3347749 Another good example of why I was disapointed in the remastered Star Trek. Here they went through all the trouble to create a new Gorn ship for this episode, and even released photos of it to the public to show it up close but in the actually episode it could only be seen very far away. They had several chances to show it up close but didn't. For example after the Metrons stop both ships and they are just hanging there in space the shot is done from the Enterprises perspective which still only showed the new Gorn ship from far away. Instead of doing it that way they could have reversed it and showed it from the perspective of the Gorn ship instead with the Enterprise instead off in the distance. The recognizalbe shape of the Enterprise with it's saucer and nacelles would still have clear from this reverse angle but it would have let see the Gorn ship up close. The point is why bother creating a new design for the Gorn ship if your not going to find a way to show some kind of closeup of it in the actually episode. Surely as some point during the chase of the Gorn ship before both ships were stopped they could have found a way to show a close up of the Gorn fleeing from the Enterpise. This in a way is similar to the situation with the new ship they created "For Mudds Women." Instead of showing it during the entire opening sequence from the perspective of the Enterprise they could have had a quick shot of the chase from the perspective of Mudd's ship. The shot especially where Mudd's ship gets hit by the asteroid would have been really cool to have seen close up. Oh well! Just two of about fifty complaints I had with the remastered episodes. There were a number of good episodes and good remastering I liked but overall was just disapointed. Another good example of why I was disapointed in the remastered Star Trek. Here they went through all the trouble to create a new Gorn ship for this episode, and even released photos of it to the public to show it up close but in the actually episode it could only be seen very far away. They had several chances to show it up close but didn’t. For example after the Metrons stop both ships and they are just hanging there in space the shot is done from the Enterprises perspective which still only showed the new Gorn ship from far away. Instead of doing it that way they could have reversed it and showed it from the perspective of the Gorn ship instead with the Enterprise instead off in the distance. The recognizalbe shape of the Enterprise with it’s saucer and nacelles would still have clear from this reverse angle but it would have let see the Gorn ship up close. The point is why bother creating a new design for the Gorn ship if your not going to find a way to show some kind of closeup of it in the actually episode. Surely as some point during the chase of the Gorn ship before both ships were stopped they could have found a way to show a close up of the Gorn fleeing from the Enterpise. This in a way is similar to the situation with the new ship they created “For Mudds Women.” Instead of showing it during the entire opening sequence from the perspective of the Enterprise they could have had a quick shot of the chase from the perspective of Mudd’s ship. The shot especially where Mudd’s ship gets hit by the asteroid would have been really cool to have seen close up. Oh well! Just two of about fifty complaints I had with the remastered episodes. There were a number of good episodes and good remastering I liked but overall was just disapointed.

]]> By: Scott http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2845 Scott Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:29:49 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2845 Civility in a discussion requires the use of language that does not denigrate and belittle one side of that discussion - i.e. pooftah, fruitloop. You clearly seem more interested in preserving the right to insult and to use insulting language than you are the right to express a contrary idea or opinion. No one is favoring censoring the opinion, although it is an opinion that bears in no way on the topic of the thread - however, as the site operator is providing the forum, he is free to police it as he sees fit, including the kind of language used by posters. His house, his rules. If you and Mr. Hitch wish to give free reign to your tasteless expressions of homophobia, you are free to do so elsewhere. Civility in a discussion requires the use of language that does not denigrate and belittle one side of that discussion – i.e. pooftah, fruitloop. You clearly seem more interested in preserving the right to insult and to use insulting language than you are the right to express a contrary idea or opinion. No one is favoring censoring the opinion, although it is an opinion that bears in no way on the topic of the thread – however, as the site operator is providing the forum, he is free to police it as he sees fit, including the kind of language used by posters. His house, his rules. If you and Mr. Hitch wish to give free reign to your tasteless expressions of homophobia, you are free to do so elsewhere.

]]> By: An olde timey fan http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2834 An olde timey fan Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:14:43 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2834 The English tongue boasts more than 500,000 words. Words are good; egos are bad. Some people cannot abide the naming of their pet attribute/fascination/behavior because they fear judgment. Judgment is good -- it is the hallmark of mankind above all other animals. Further, compelling others to conform to one's personal will is the ugliest of all ugliness. When the "sin that dared not speak its name" was yet unspoken, life was more pleasant for all but the obnoxious activists who demand external affirmation from others -- by any means necessary. But if you would bear no criticism, then you must keep your thoughts -- or your preferences -- to yourself. Otherwise, it is only a matter of equity that they be open to notice, discussion, criticism -- and judgment. While Trek touched on many controversial issues, the discussion of them can remain civil -- especially from those who are first to claim vicitmihood as a privileged status that would quash all dissent. I for one cannot abide *that*. The English tongue boasts more than 500,000 words. Words are good; egos are bad.

Some people cannot abide the naming of their pet attribute/fascination/behavior because they fear judgment.

Judgment is good — it is the hallmark of mankind above all other animals.

Further, compelling others to conform to one’s personal will is the ugliest of all ugliness.

When the “sin that dared not speak its name” was yet unspoken, life was more pleasant for all but the obnoxious activists who demand external affirmation from others — by any means necessary.

But if you would bear no criticism, then you must keep your thoughts — or your preferences — to yourself. Otherwise, it is only a matter of equity that they be open to notice, discussion, criticism — and judgment.

While Trek touched on many controversial issues, the discussion of them can remain civil — especially from those who are first to claim vicitmihood as a privileged status that would quash all dissent. I for one cannot abide *that*.

]]> By: Cameron Boehme http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2673 Cameron Boehme Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:47:39 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2673 I dont't "fear" the words, "Thang." They simply have no place in polite society. Cameron I dont’t “fear” the words, “Thang.” They simply have no place in polite society.

Cameron

]]> By: The God Thang http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2661 The God Thang Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:33:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2661 We will never get to the "enlightened" point of the people in the Star Trek universe until we learn, as Uhura said in "The Savage Curtain" "not to fear words". We will never get to the “enlightened” point of the people in the Star Trek universe until we learn, as Uhura said in “The Savage Curtain” “not to fear words”.

]]> By: Cameron Boehme http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2657 Cameron Boehme Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:28:59 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2657 My Friend Anthony, I know that you’ve had your hands (more than) full lately, but I’ve enjoyed working with you in the past, and hope to work with you again someday. I *have* learned one fact about myself, and that is I should never reply to a messaging board, no matter how well intended, until I’ve calmed down. I can not tell you how sorry I am for making my point with the end of a sword, rather than through the diplomatic channels and words of an educated person. Thank you, as always, for being everything I have come to learn about you in or collaborations and phone calls, and everything I admire in you, sir. I mean that, most sincerely, friend. Truly, Cameron Boehme Dallas, Texas My Friend Anthony,

I know that you’ve had your hands (more than) full lately, but I’ve enjoyed working with you in the past, and hope to work with you again someday. I *have* learned one fact about myself, and that is I should never reply to a messaging board, no matter how well intended, until I’ve calmed down. I can not tell you how sorry I am for making my point with the end of a sword, rather than through the diplomatic channels and words of an educated person.

Thank you, as always, for being everything I have come to learn about you in or collaborations and phone calls, and everything I admire in you, sir.

I mean that, most sincerely, friend.

Truly,

Cameron Boehme
Dallas, Texas

]]> By: Anthony Pascale http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2550 Anthony Pascale Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:03:03 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2550 Cameron, I just got around to seeing this and I didnt see the 'pooftah' comments. It is really hard to monitor the amount (and length) of comments coming into this site. You are correct...I do not want to see any more hatefull language about race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. This is a Trek site and that stuff is best left for elsewhere. And I keep asking people to keep things civil....if things dont calm down around here I will have to start doing something about it Cameron,

I just got around to seeing this and I didnt see the ‘pooftah’ comments. It is really hard to monitor the amount (and length) of comments coming into this site.

You are correct…I do not want to see any more hatefull language about race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. This is a Trek site and that stuff is best left for elsewhere. And I keep asking people to keep things civil….if things dont calm down around here I will have to start doing something about it

]]> By: kirok http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2501 kirok Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:47:23 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2501 the one where shatner gets tinitis from a close proximity explosion. he stays in charachter as a bomb goes off right next to his ear. any other actor would have stopped and yelled "are you guys trying to kill me?" i love when kirk is fashioning his bamboo cannon. he needs something to strengthen the base. fortunately this planet has an indigenous vine plant with the flexibility and strength of braided rope. and a perfect six foot section of it happens to be right at his feet at the very moment that he needs it. the one where shatner gets tinitis from a close proximity explosion.
he stays in charachter as a bomb goes off right next to his ear. any other actor would have stopped and yelled “are you guys trying to kill me?”

i love when kirk is fashioning his bamboo cannon. he needs something to strengthen the base. fortunately this planet has an indigenous vine plant with the flexibility and strength of braided rope. and a perfect six foot section of it happens to be right at his feet at the very moment that he needs it.

]]> By: Cameron Boehme http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2458 Cameron Boehme Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:08:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2458 Pooftah, fruitloop, femme, etc. Anthony, I haven't spoken up in quite a while, but would you be allowing the words "nigger" or "spic" or "kike" on your site? Feel free to delete *this* comment (I know I would), because I believe those are some of the ugliest words ever uttered by human kind, I just wanted to make my point. Pooftah, fruitloop, femme, etc.

Anthony, I haven’t spoken up in quite a while, but would you be allowing the words “nigger” or “spic” or “kike” on your site?

Feel free to delete *this* comment (I know I would), because I believe those are some of the ugliest words ever uttered by human kind, I just wanted to make my point.

]]> By: Greg Stamper http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2324 Greg Stamper Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:28:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2324 Surak II You are Welcome. I come to serve. Surak II
You are Welcome. I come to serve.

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