Comments on: Kirk v Gorn…See The ‘Arena’ Remastered Promo http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/ the source for Star Trek news and information Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:45:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Scott http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2845 Scott Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:29:49 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2845 Civility in a discussion requires the use of language that does not denigrate and belittle one side of that discussion - i.e. pooftah, fruitloop. You clearly seem more interested in preserving the right to insult and to use insulting language than you are the right to express a contrary idea or opinion. No one is favoring censoring the opinion, although it is an opinion that bears in no way on the topic of the thread - however, as the site operator is providing the forum, he is free to police it as he sees fit, including the kind of language used by posters. His house, his rules. If you and Mr. Hitch wish to give free reign to your tasteless expressions of homophobia, you are free to do so elsewhere. Civility in a discussion requires the use of language that does not denigrate and belittle one side of that discussion – i.e. pooftah, fruitloop. You clearly seem more interested in preserving the right to insult and to use insulting language than you are the right to express a contrary idea or opinion. No one is favoring censoring the opinion, although it is an opinion that bears in no way on the topic of the thread – however, as the site operator is providing the forum, he is free to police it as he sees fit, including the kind of language used by posters. His house, his rules. If you and Mr. Hitch wish to give free reign to your tasteless expressions of homophobia, you are free to do so elsewhere.

]]> By: An olde timey fan http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2834 An olde timey fan Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:14:43 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2834 The English tongue boasts more than 500,000 words. Words are good; egos are bad. Some people cannot abide the naming of their pet attribute/fascination/behavior because they fear judgment. Judgment is good -- it is the hallmark of mankind above all other animals. Further, compelling others to conform to one's personal will is the ugliest of all ugliness. When the "sin that dared not speak its name" was yet unspoken, life was more pleasant for all but the obnoxious activists who demand external affirmation from others -- by any means necessary. But if you would bear no criticism, then you must keep your thoughts -- or your preferences -- to yourself. Otherwise, it is only a matter of equity that they be open to notice, discussion, criticism -- and judgment. While Trek touched on many controversial issues, the discussion of them can remain civil -- especially from those who are first to claim vicitmihood as a privileged status that would quash all dissent. I for one cannot abide *that*. The English tongue boasts more than 500,000 words. Words are good; egos are bad.

Some people cannot abide the naming of their pet attribute/fascination/behavior because they fear judgment.

Judgment is good — it is the hallmark of mankind above all other animals.

Further, compelling others to conform to one’s personal will is the ugliest of all ugliness.

When the “sin that dared not speak its name” was yet unspoken, life was more pleasant for all but the obnoxious activists who demand external affirmation from others — by any means necessary.

But if you would bear no criticism, then you must keep your thoughts — or your preferences — to yourself. Otherwise, it is only a matter of equity that they be open to notice, discussion, criticism — and judgment.

While Trek touched on many controversial issues, the discussion of them can remain civil — especially from those who are first to claim vicitmihood as a privileged status that would quash all dissent. I for one cannot abide *that*.

]]> By: Cameron Boehme http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2673 Cameron Boehme Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:47:39 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2673 I dont't "fear" the words, "Thang." They simply have no place in polite society. Cameron I dont’t “fear” the words, “Thang.” They simply have no place in polite society.

Cameron

]]> By: The God Thang http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-2/#comment-2661 The God Thang Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:33:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2661 We will never get to the "enlightened" point of the people in the Star Trek universe until we learn, as Uhura said in "The Savage Curtain" "not to fear words". We will never get to the “enlightened” point of the people in the Star Trek universe until we learn, as Uhura said in “The Savage Curtain” “not to fear words”.

]]> By: Cameron Boehme http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2657 Cameron Boehme Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:28:59 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2657 My Friend Anthony, I know that you’ve had your hands (more than) full lately, but I’ve enjoyed working with you in the past, and hope to work with you again someday. I *have* learned one fact about myself, and that is I should never reply to a messaging board, no matter how well intended, until I’ve calmed down. I can not tell you how sorry I am for making my point with the end of a sword, rather than through the diplomatic channels and words of an educated person. Thank you, as always, for being everything I have come to learn about you in or collaborations and phone calls, and everything I admire in you, sir. I mean that, most sincerely, friend. Truly, Cameron Boehme Dallas, Texas My Friend Anthony,

I know that you’ve had your hands (more than) full lately, but I’ve enjoyed working with you in the past, and hope to work with you again someday. I *have* learned one fact about myself, and that is I should never reply to a messaging board, no matter how well intended, until I’ve calmed down. I can not tell you how sorry I am for making my point with the end of a sword, rather than through the diplomatic channels and words of an educated person.

Thank you, as always, for being everything I have come to learn about you in or collaborations and phone calls, and everything I admire in you, sir.

I mean that, most sincerely, friend.

Truly,

Cameron Boehme
Dallas, Texas

]]> By: Anthony Pascale http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2550 Anthony Pascale Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:03:03 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2550 Cameron, I just got around to seeing this and I didnt see the 'pooftah' comments. It is really hard to monitor the amount (and length) of comments coming into this site. You are correct...I do not want to see any more hatefull language about race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. This is a Trek site and that stuff is best left for elsewhere. And I keep asking people to keep things civil....if things dont calm down around here I will have to start doing something about it Cameron,

I just got around to seeing this and I didnt see the ‘pooftah’ comments. It is really hard to monitor the amount (and length) of comments coming into this site.

You are correct…I do not want to see any more hatefull language about race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. This is a Trek site and that stuff is best left for elsewhere. And I keep asking people to keep things civil….if things dont calm down around here I will have to start doing something about it

]]> By: kirok http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2501 kirok Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:47:23 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2501 the one where shatner gets tinitis from a close proximity explosion. he stays in charachter as a bomb goes off right next to his ear. any other actor would have stopped and yelled "are you guys trying to kill me?" i love when kirk is fashioning his bamboo cannon. he needs something to strengthen the base. fortunately this planet has an indigenous vine plant with the flexibility and strength of braided rope. and a perfect six foot section of it happens to be right at his feet at the very moment that he needs it. the one where shatner gets tinitis from a close proximity explosion.
he stays in charachter as a bomb goes off right next to his ear. any other actor would have stopped and yelled “are you guys trying to kill me?”

i love when kirk is fashioning his bamboo cannon. he needs something to strengthen the base. fortunately this planet has an indigenous vine plant with the flexibility and strength of braided rope. and a perfect six foot section of it happens to be right at his feet at the very moment that he needs it.

]]> By: Cameron Boehme http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2458 Cameron Boehme Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:08:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2458 Pooftah, fruitloop, femme, etc. Anthony, I haven't spoken up in quite a while, but would you be allowing the words "nigger" or "spic" or "kike" on your site? Feel free to delete *this* comment (I know I would), because I believe those are some of the ugliest words ever uttered by human kind, I just wanted to make my point. Pooftah, fruitloop, femme, etc.

Anthony, I haven’t spoken up in quite a while, but would you be allowing the words “nigger” or “spic” or “kike” on your site?

Feel free to delete *this* comment (I know I would), because I believe those are some of the ugliest words ever uttered by human kind, I just wanted to make my point.

]]> By: Greg Stamper http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2324 Greg Stamper Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:28:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2324 Surak II You are Welcome. I come to serve. Surak II
You are Welcome. I come to serve.

]]> By: Surak II http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/comment-page-1/#comment-2309 Surak II Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:26:37 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/10/18/kirk-v-gornsee-the-arena-remastered-promo/#comment-2309 Greg, thanks for the link to the www.startrek.com comparison page. I think, unfortunately, it shows all too well (I am using a Viewsonic VP2130b monitor; nothing Vulcan) the "cartoonish" look of the Enterprise, scratches and blur nothwithstanding, even in the "ringed" Mudd planet. Clearer, yes; but the light is all wrong, not like a 950 foot ship in space. Not easy to do, but as per the other thread on the "new" Enterprise model, I do hope they improve it. I won't mention the turbine engine nacelle lights -- CBS/Paramount/Viacom knows no one will purchase a BluRay disk of this "cartoon", so they'll fix it. If all else fails, they should call Daren Doc! ;) Greg, thanks for the link to the http://www.startrek.com comparison page. I think, unfortunately, it shows all too well (I am using a Viewsonic VP2130b monitor; nothing Vulcan) the “cartoonish” look of the Enterprise, scratches and blur nothwithstanding, even in the “ringed” Mudd planet. Clearer, yes; but the light is all wrong, not like a 950 foot ship in space. Not easy to do, but as per the other thread on the “new” Enterprise model, I do hope they improve it.

I won’t mention the turbine engine nacelle lights — CBS/Paramount/Viacom knows no one will purchase a BluRay disk of this “cartoon”, so they’ll fix it.

If all else fails, they should call Daren Doc! ;)

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