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	<title>Comments on: Dorn Praises Frakes, Blames Baird, and questions Abrams at Detroit&#8217;s Motor City Con</title>
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		<title>By: Scorned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scorned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIghly Illogical

Like I said before &quot;having crossed&quot; fingers is not the way to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIghly Illogical</p>
<p>Like I said before &#8220;having crossed&#8221; fingers is not the way to think.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm . . . what&#039;s trekweb? :)</description>
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		<title>By: HIghly Illogical</title>
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		<dc:creator>HIghly Illogical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  &quot;Scorned&quot; -- thanks for your opinion and debate.  You make some valid points.  Apparently, those of other opinions don&#039;t have the confidence to defend theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  &#8220;Scorned&#8221; &#8212; thanks for your opinion and debate.  You make some valid points.  Apparently, those of other opinions don&#8217;t have the confidence to defend theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: HIghly Illogical</title>
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		<dc:creator>HIghly Illogical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Open minded&quot;?

You know what they say about being open-minded ... your brains fall out!

But I don&#039;t think you&#039;re in trouble there -- your &quot;counter-attack&quot; was pretty close-minded and opinionated.  Hmm ... that getting close to your definition of trolling ...

Welcome to the club!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Open minded&#8221;?</p>
<p>You know what they say about being open-minded &#8230; your brains fall out!</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re in trouble there &#8212; your &#8220;counter-attack&#8221; was pretty close-minded and opinionated.  Hmm &#8230; that getting close to your definition of trolling &#8230;</p>
<p>Welcome to the club!  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony,
  Thanks for clearing the air in here. Now, back to business...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,<br />
  Thanks for clearing the air in here. Now, back to business&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you have shown zero evidence of being open minded and if you continue to make baseless accusations (such as those about Paramount saying \&#039;kiddie trek\&#039; and Abrams SM script...things of which I guarantee you are not true) you will no longer be welcome here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so far all you have done is demonstrate that your mind is made up and you are only here to attack and pick fights...that is not a discussion that is trolling and this is not that kind of site. This site is open to critiques as our  coverage and commentary of Trek Remastered has made clear, but this is not a place to attack that project or Trek XI on principal. We fully support both projects and hope and endeavor for them to be as good as possible. TOSr is being done...so there is no debate anymore about \&#039;should it be done\&#039;. Trek XI is being made by JJ Abrams and will be  TOS film, debating those issues is irrelevent and distracting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you do  not want CBS to make TOSr or want Paramount to fire Abrams...fine...go tell them about it, but dont do it here. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and that is all I will say on the matter, you have been warned
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have shown zero evidence of being open minded and if you continue to make baseless accusations (such as those about Paramount saying \&#8217;kiddie trek\&#8217; and Abrams SM script&#8230;things of which I guarantee you are not true) you will no longer be welcome here.</p>
<p>so far all you have done is demonstrate that your mind is made up and you are only here to attack and pick fights&#8230;that is not a discussion that is trolling and this is not that kind of site. This site is open to critiques as our  coverage and commentary of Trek Remastered has made clear, but this is not a place to attack that project or Trek XI on principal. We fully support both projects and hope and endeavor for them to be as good as possible. TOSr is being done&#8230;so there is no debate anymore about \&#8217;should it be done\&#8217;. Trek XI is being made by JJ Abrams and will be  TOS film, debating those issues is irrelevent and distracting</p>
<p>If you do  not want CBS to make TOSr or want Paramount to fire Abrams&#8230;fine&#8230;go tell them about it, but dont do it here. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>and that is all I will say on the matter, you have been warned</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony.

I am glad to see this site will not shield away from critiques. Some sites do.  I am not being closed minded I am merely pointing out the possiblities. 

Oh yeah, with regards to the Superman script.  I found this article to be very interesting.  
http://www.agonybooth.com/forum/topic2730.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony.</p>
<p>I am glad to see this site will not shield away from critiques. Some sites do.  I am not being closed minded I am merely pointing out the possiblities. </p>
<p>Oh yeah, with regards to the Superman script.  I found this article to be very interesting.<br />
<a href="http://www.agonybooth.com/forum/topic2730.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.agonybooth.com/forum/topic2730.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scorned you are really skirting into troll territory. if you are here just to make basesless attacks like \&#039;kiddie trek\&#039; which I can assure everyone here has never been stated by anyone at Paramount and is not the movie they are making then I suggest you just move on&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RE: Abrams superman script&lt;br /&gt;
have you read it? didnt think so&lt;br /&gt;
the slam agains that script is that it made various changes to the SM mythos. these were things Abrams was told to do by Jon Peters, otherwise the script was pretty good. In the end WB realised Peters was such a screwup and sending people like Abrams and Smith in the wrong directions that they tried to fire him but his contract was too good&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This site is for the open minded, the people who are looking forward to the future of trek with projects like Trek Remastered and Trek XI. This site has not shied away from crtitiques, but  is not going to play the game of being opposed to things on pricincipal, especially things that are not out yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if all you want to do is attack and you have closd your mind to the future of trek then I suggest you do it on one of the many other sites that cater to that kind of thing. TrekMovie.com was created to be a different kind of site.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And no this is not a \&#039;everyitng Paramount does is good\&#039; site, just look at our Trek Remastered coverage...we call them as we see the. There are many legit questions about the future of trek. This site is for people who want to learn more and discuss the possibilities with Trek XI and other future Trek projects. It is not for people who have already decided what those things will be and is just here to attack them...that is not a \&#039;discussion\&#039; that is trolling&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scorned you are really skirting into troll territory. if you are here just to make basesless attacks like \&#8217;kiddie trek\&#8217; which I can assure everyone here has never been stated by anyone at Paramount and is not the movie they are making then I suggest you just move on</p>
<p>RE: Abrams superman script<br />
have you read it? didnt think so<br />
the slam agains that script is that it made various changes to the SM mythos. these were things Abrams was told to do by Jon Peters, otherwise the script was pretty good. In the end WB realised Peters was such a screwup and sending people like Abrams and Smith in the wrong directions that they tried to fire him but his contract was too good</p>
<p>This site is for the open minded, the people who are looking forward to the future of trek with projects like Trek Remastered and Trek XI. This site has not shied away from crtitiques, but  is not going to play the game of being opposed to things on pricincipal, especially things that are not out yet.</p>
<p>if all you want to do is attack and you have closd your mind to the future of trek then I suggest you do it on one of the many other sites that cater to that kind of thing. TrekMovie.com was created to be a different kind of site.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>And no this is not a \&#8217;everyitng Paramount does is good\&#8217; site, just look at our Trek Remastered coverage&#8230;we call them as we see the. There are many legit questions about the future of trek. This site is for people who want to learn more and discuss the possibilities with Trek XI and other future Trek projects. It is not for people who have already decided what those things will be and is just here to attack them&#8230;that is not a \&#8217;discussion\&#8217; that is trolling</p>
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		<title>By: Scorned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scorned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said before Paramount when they hired Abrams said &quot;kiddie kirk movie&quot;.  That is a fact.   Abrams must of pitched a story to Paramount.  So he knows what  he is doing seeing how HE designed the poster.

Scorned. I’m not angry, although I do throw myself into these debates with vigour. I love discussing stuff with people who have opposing viewpoints. It frustrates me when someone like you has good stuff to say, but spoils it with a one-step-too-far attitude of: ‘Let’s start a campaign to get the new Trek film pulled because I personally don’t like the idea!’

First off you flew off the handle and second you are over exaggerating again with such comments like &quot;myself starting a campaign&quot;.  Which is clearly not the case.    In an attempt at &quot;damage control&quot;.   You say I have &quot;good stuff to say&quot; yet you never negated anything about it.  Instead I hear &quot;you write under an assumed name, bile etc&quot;.  I have no problem with you but your &quot;speech&quot; here is far from sincere.  It is clear you are a member of Trekweb.


Better everyone comment ‘Yay!’ or ‘Nay’ as and when concrete news comes through about what’s happening. That’s far more constructive than expending energy jumping on faint shadows and press supposition.

What is the point of saying &quot;yes or no&quot;?   You are going to have a whole column of &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&#039;s&quot;?


I mean, look at Casino Royale: all that row and now it’s looking like the best Bond film in years!

I am not getting in a JB debate because I really don&#039;t care too.  This movie is a prequel and I have no interest in it.  The actor is old looking and looks like nothing like the character described in the book Casino Royale.  The said they didn&#039;t want a &quot;super hero&quot; Bond.  More grit blah blah. Go look at the trailer. All action.  So the studio in this case said &quot;one thing&quot; and &quot;did another&quot;.  It  is only your opinion that is looking like the best in years.   I personally  am not interested in this &quot;bond&quot;.


On a  completely different note...Christmas will soon be here the first draft will be submitted and it will then be leaked out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said before Paramount when they hired Abrams said &#8220;kiddie kirk movie&#8221;.  That is a fact.   Abrams must of pitched a story to Paramount.  So he knows what  he is doing seeing how HE designed the poster.</p>
<p>Scorned. I’m not angry, although I do throw myself into these debates with vigour. I love discussing stuff with people who have opposing viewpoints. It frustrates me when someone like you has good stuff to say, but spoils it with a one-step-too-far attitude of: ‘Let’s start a campaign to get the new Trek film pulled because I personally don’t like the idea!’</p>
<p>First off you flew off the handle and second you are over exaggerating again with such comments like &#8220;myself starting a campaign&#8221;.  Which is clearly not the case.    In an attempt at &#8220;damage control&#8221;.   You say I have &#8220;good stuff to say&#8221; yet you never negated anything about it.  Instead I hear &#8220;you write under an assumed name, bile etc&#8221;.  I have no problem with you but your &#8220;speech&#8221; here is far from sincere.  It is clear you are a member of Trekweb.</p>
<p>Better everyone comment ‘Yay!’ or ‘Nay’ as and when concrete news comes through about what’s happening. That’s far more constructive than expending energy jumping on faint shadows and press supposition.</p>
<p>What is the point of saying &#8220;yes or no&#8221;?   You are going to have a whole column of &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no&#8217;s&#8221;?</p>
<p>I mean, look at Casino Royale: all that row and now it’s looking like the best Bond film in years!</p>
<p>I am not getting in a JB debate because I really don&#8217;t care too.  This movie is a prequel and I have no interest in it.  The actor is old looking and looks like nothing like the character described in the book Casino Royale.  The said they didn&#8217;t want a &#8220;super hero&#8221; Bond.  More grit blah blah. Go look at the trailer. All action.  So the studio in this case said &#8220;one thing&#8221; and &#8220;did another&#8221;.  It  is only your opinion that is looking like the best in years.   I personally  am not interested in this &#8220;bond&#8221;.</p>
<p>On a  completely different note&#8230;Christmas will soon be here the first draft will be submitted and it will then be leaked out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scorned. I&#039;m not angry, although I do throw myself into these debates with vigour. I love discussing stuff with people who have opposing viewpoints. It frustrates me when someone like you has good stuff to say, but spoils it with a one-step-too-far attitude of: &#039;Let&#039;s start a campaign to get the new Trek film pulled because I personally don&#039;t like the idea!&#039;

Better everyone comment &#039;Yay!&#039; or &#039;Nay&#039; as and when concrete news comes through about what&#039;s happening. That&#039;s far more constructive than expending energy jumping on faint shadows and press supposition.

I mean, look at Casino Royale: all that row and now it&#039;s looking like the best Bond film in years!

Anyway, hopefully we&#039;re at peace now.

All  the best, Dom :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scorned. I&#8217;m not angry, although I do throw myself into these debates with vigour. I love discussing stuff with people who have opposing viewpoints. It frustrates me when someone like you has good stuff to say, but spoils it with a one-step-too-far attitude of: &#8216;Let&#8217;s start a campaign to get the new Trek film pulled because I personally don&#8217;t like the idea!&#8217;</p>
<p>Better everyone comment &#8216;Yay!&#8217; or &#8216;Nay&#8217; as and when concrete news comes through about what&#8217;s happening. That&#8217;s far more constructive than expending energy jumping on faint shadows and press supposition.</p>
<p>I mean, look at Casino Royale: all that row and now it&#8217;s looking like the best Bond film in years!</p>
<p>Anyway, hopefully we&#8217;re at peace now.</p>
<p>All  the best, Dom :)</p>
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