Comments on: Review of The Menagerie Part 1 Remastered http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/ the source for Star Trek news and information Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:44:54 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: RonS http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7546 RonS Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:31:57 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7546 I just got done readning a great book called "Burning Dreams" that deals with Pike life. It also goes into great detail about the events in Menagerie. I love the remastered shows so far. I am really loking forward to part 2! I just got done readning a great book called “Burning Dreams” that deals with Pike life. It also goes into great detail about the events in Menagerie.

I love the remastered shows so far. I am really loking forward to part 2!

]]> By: Buckaroohawk http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7539 Buckaroohawk Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:24:14 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7539 Re: #68 by Captain Pike I agree. Mendez being a hallucination always bothered me. When exactly was he replaced? Was he ever at Starbase 11 at all, or was it after Kirk procured a shuttlecraft to chase after the Enterprise? It would have been better if he had been really there the whole time and gave the order to drop the charges against Spock after receiving the OK from Starfleet. That way, the drama of the trial wouldn't have been negated. Re: #68 by Captain Pike

I agree. Mendez being a hallucination always bothered me. When exactly was he replaced? Was he ever at Starbase 11 at all, or was it after Kirk procured a shuttlecraft to chase after the Enterprise?

It would have been better if he had been really there the whole time and gave the order to drop the charges against Spock after receiving the OK from Starfleet. That way, the drama of the trial wouldn’t have been negated.

]]> By: Orbitalic http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7446 Orbitalic Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:20:04 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7446 OMG! The nacelle thingys spin too fast the wrong way. OMG! The ships too Graygreenbluewhite. OMG! The bridge faces east OMG! TheTurboshaft is misaligned OMG! How does this poor girl get up to Warp One with all these problems? There's a lot of people I respect in here for what they know or how they react to other people's opinions. But, you know what? There's far too much ranting about a few mistakes. Mistakes from 40 years ago or a few weeks ago. I like the show too, but dam...you need a new hobby if you are at home on a week night calculating the exact alignment and size of the bridge an imaginary starship. Comment, but please don't make a career of it. OMG! The nacelle thingys spin too fast the wrong way.
OMG! The ships too Graygreenbluewhite.
OMG! The bridge faces east
OMG! TheTurboshaft is misaligned
OMG! How does this poor girl get up to Warp One with all these problems?

There’s a lot of people I respect in here for what they know or how they react to other people’s opinions. But, you know what? There’s far too much ranting about a few mistakes. Mistakes from 40 years ago or a few weeks ago. I like the show too, but dam…you need a new hobby if you are at home on a week night calculating the exact alignment and size of the bridge an imaginary starship.
Comment, but please don’t make a career of it.

]]> By: Surak http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7417 Surak Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:04:59 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7417 If keeping it simple results in "superior" quality, as is evidenced in this episode, I'm all for it. Even Daren Doc gave a good review to this effort. http://betafive.com/wordpress/?p=54 I don't know CGI, but if there were a way to "smudge" the painted backdrop, that would be great. I hope in the future CBS Digital will try more elaborate camera motion over their Enterprise, but this was so much better than their early work I am pleased! If keeping it simple results in “superior” quality, as is evidenced in this episode, I’m all for it. Even Daren Doc gave a good review to this effort.

http://betafive.com/wordpress/?p=54

I don’t know CGI, but if there were a way to “smudge” the painted backdrop, that would be great.

I hope in the future CBS Digital will try more elaborate camera motion over their Enterprise, but this was so much better than their early work I am pleased!

]]> By: seangh http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7411 seangh Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:26:44 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7411 #68 - Hey Pike - I have to agree with you. I think this two parter is only memorable because, like DB said above, it gives TOS a real history - a sense of being around. But as a story, kinda lame. Were the Talosians able to actually control peoples minds with ESP projection all the way from Talos? That's a stretch. #68 – Hey Pike – I have to agree with you. I think this two parter is only memorable because, like DB said above, it gives TOS a real history – a sense of being around.

But as a story, kinda lame. Were the Talosians able to actually control peoples minds with ESP projection all the way from Talos? That’s a stretch.

]]> By: Dr. Image http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7407 Dr. Image Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:57:41 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7407 # 68: But- in the words of M. Night-- what a twist! Well, I just had the thrill of finally seeing that latest ep. by the Exeter guys. The editing, production, acting, script, FX, all top-notch stuff! They "get it!" And the ship- they nailed the look. Wow. I daresay, even down to the proper size......"engine balls." (cringe) # 68: But- in the words of M. Night– what a twist!

Well, I just had the thrill of finally seeing that latest ep. by the Exeter guys.
The editing, production, acting, script, FX, all top-notch stuff! They “get it!”
And the ship- they nailed the look. Wow.
I daresay, even down to the proper size……”engine balls.” (cringe)

]]> By: Captain Pike http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7400 Captain Pike Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:33 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7400 I love The Cage (obvious from my hand I guess) but I always thought the "modern" wrap around was pretty lame. From Spock committing mutiny to Pike having to blink his lights to Mendez inexplicably being a Talosian projection, I have always found it contrived and nonsensical. For me Mendez turning out to be "fake" negates all drama and tension from the whole court martial. And it doesn't make any sense and it's completely irrelevant to the plot! I love The Cage (obvious from my hand I guess) but I always thought the “modern” wrap around was pretty lame. From Spock committing mutiny to Pike having to blink his lights to Mendez inexplicably being a Talosian projection, I have always found it contrived and nonsensical. For me Mendez turning out to be “fake” negates all drama and tension from the whole court martial. And it doesn’t make any sense and it’s completely irrelevant to the plot!

]]> By: seangh http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7386 seangh Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:21:21 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7386 I think the fact the turbo door is off axis is probably has to do more with shooting of the set than anything else. A turbo door directly behind Kirk's chair would impact the way the set is shot, with many more head on shots of kirk in his chair (which would require moving the helm / nav station out of the way with every medium and close up shot.) The way kirk is shot, from his right side, with the turbo lift visible in the BG is crucial to the dynamic of the characters - Kirk often interacting with Spock at his station and often reacting to whom has come in or gone out of the turbo doors. This might be more difficult to achieve with the doors directly behind Kirk - though not impossible. I'm not sure if that helps you with your issues, but at least it's a practical rationale of why the set was contructed the way it was. I think the fact the turbo door is off axis is probably has to do more with shooting of the set than anything else. A turbo door directly behind Kirk’s chair would impact the way the set is shot, with many more head on shots of kirk in his chair (which would require moving the helm / nav station out of the way with every medium and close up shot.)

The way kirk is shot, from his right side, with the turbo lift visible in the BG is crucial to the dynamic of the characters – Kirk often interacting with Spock at his station and often reacting to whom has come in or gone out of the turbo doors. This might be more difficult to achieve with the doors directly behind Kirk – though not impossible.

I’m not sure if that helps you with your issues, but at least it’s a practical rationale of why the set was contructed the way it was.

]]> By: DB http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7381 DB Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:50:43 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7381 Let me correct my previous statement: The diameter of the bridge set from wall to wall was around twenty-eight feet. *However,* if you include the turbolift set it might work out to thirty-seven feet along that one axis. Let me correct my previous statement:

The diameter of the bridge set from wall to wall was around twenty-eight feet. *However,* if you include the turbolift set it might work out to thirty-seven feet along that one axis.

]]> By: hitch1969© http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/comment-page-2/#comment-7377 hitch1969© Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:06:24 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/27/review-of-the-menagerie-part-1-remastered/#comment-7377 "When Kirk and Commodore Mendez catch up and put Spock on trial, his defense consists of making them watch an old “Star Trek” rerun. Luckily for them, it’s a good one that they haven’t seen." I HIGHLY enjoyed this review. Very well written, witty, and too hip for the room as it were. Excellent work, Dennis Russell Bailey, who I shall now and forever call DRuss B-Flav© because da rhymes he kicks be so so tasty. All the ladies in da house forget K-Fed, you wanna dance with DRuss B-Flav© instead!! very mac in the pants review, my man. good work and I hope to see more. best!! =h= “When Kirk and Commodore Mendez catch up and put Spock on trial, his defense consists of making them watch an old “Star Trek” rerun. Luckily for them, it’s a good one that they haven’t seen.”

I HIGHLY enjoyed this review. Very well written, witty, and too hip for the room as it were. Excellent work, Dennis Russell Bailey, who I shall now and forever call DRuss B-Flav© because da rhymes he kicks be so so tasty. All the ladies in da house forget K-Fed, you wanna dance with DRuss B-Flav© instead!!

very mac in the pants review, my man. good work and I hope to see more.

best!!

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