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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek XI Update</title>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 2nd Birthday to this article.</description>
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		<title>By: stevesf</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/01/03/star-trek-xi-update/comment-page-2/#comment-105940</link>
		<dc:creator>stevesf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 20:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Kirk&#039;s brother named &quot;Sam?&quot; I don&#039;t remember George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Kirk&#8217;s brother named &#8220;Sam?&#8221; I don&#8217;t remember George.</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Deiker</title>
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		<dc:creator>William A. Deiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the Gary Mitchell comment! Star Trek XI MUST draw on ALL things established in the original series if it&#039;s to work.  Any deviation will alienate diehard fans.

That&#039;s not to say Star Trek XI needs to be so straight forward that it lacks creativity and flexibility key to a good storyline.

However, realistically (and fortunately for the prospective screenwriter(s)) TOS provides a roadmap to a potentially great back story.

The biggest mistake would be not only to ignore characterization, but common sense elements like costume, props andsetting. 

However, I think it&#039;s okay to ignore Spock smiling in the early incarnations of TOS because his lack of emotion had yet to be established...I can&#039;t wait to see how this all turns out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the Gary Mitchell comment! Star Trek XI MUST draw on ALL things established in the original series if it&#8217;s to work.  Any deviation will alienate diehard fans.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say Star Trek XI needs to be so straight forward that it lacks creativity and flexibility key to a good storyline.</p>
<p>However, realistically (and fortunately for the prospective screenwriter(s)) TOS provides a roadmap to a potentially great back story.</p>
<p>The biggest mistake would be not only to ignore characterization, but common sense elements like costume, props andsetting. </p>
<p>However, I think it&#8217;s okay to ignore Spock smiling in the early incarnations of TOS because his lack of emotion had yet to be established&#8230;I can&#8217;t wait to see how this all turns out!</p>
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		<title>By: Just Make it GOOD!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Make it GOOD!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that nobody has mentioned the fact that the original poster is both gold and blue.  

Everyone seems to think XI is going to be all about Kirk&#039;s beginnings and life up to becoming captain of the Enterprise.  But, if the blue is any indication, wouldn&#039;t that also point to a beginning for Spock, and, perhaps, McCoy?  

Everyone from TOS had a history that abruptly began on the show.  I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing a movie that showed all of these tangents (Scott&#039;s and Uhura&#039;s also maybe?) coming to a final &quot;nexus&quot; (sorry) aboard the Enterprise as Captain Kirk takes the helm from Captain Pike in a change of command ceremony.

You think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that nobody has mentioned the fact that the original poster is both gold and blue.  </p>
<p>Everyone seems to think XI is going to be all about Kirk&#8217;s beginnings and life up to becoming captain of the Enterprise.  But, if the blue is any indication, wouldn&#8217;t that also point to a beginning for Spock, and, perhaps, McCoy?  </p>
<p>Everyone from TOS had a history that abruptly began on the show.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing a movie that showed all of these tangents (Scott&#8217;s and Uhura&#8217;s also maybe?) coming to a final &#8220;nexus&#8221; (sorry) aboard the Enterprise as Captain Kirk takes the helm from Captain Pike in a change of command ceremony.</p>
<p>You think?</p>
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		<title>By: Resistance_is_futile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resistance_is_futile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps im not a true star trek fan, although i like to think i am. I think the movie should have been based on a more liner format...Perhaps following what happened after the return of Voyager to the Alpha quadrant.

TOS was good but i think ENT showed that you just can&#039;t go backwards!  Let Kirk rest in peace....

My first guess of what the new movie would have been about or perhaps i was kinda wishing was the the cast of VOY and TNG get together and fight out an all on assult of the Borg on the Alpha quadrant.  With the help of the United Federation of Planets they once and for all defeat the Borg.

I will probably watch Star Trek XI but like ENT probalby wont enjoy it as much as the other series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps im not a true star trek fan, although i like to think i am. I think the movie should have been based on a more liner format&#8230;Perhaps following what happened after the return of Voyager to the Alpha quadrant.</p>
<p>TOS was good but i think ENT showed that you just can&#8217;t go backwards!  Let Kirk rest in peace&#8230;.</p>
<p>My first guess of what the new movie would have been about or perhaps i was kinda wishing was the the cast of VOY and TNG get together and fight out an all on assult of the Borg on the Alpha quadrant.  With the help of the United Federation of Planets they once and for all defeat the Borg.</p>
<p>I will probably watch Star Trek XI but like ENT probalby wont enjoy it as much as the other series.</p>
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		<title>By: fascinoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>fascinoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that everything will be consistent with TOS rather than the later Treks.

What I mean:
I don&#039;t want to see Vulcans or Romulans with those Neanderthal brow ridges, and I hope we don&#039;t see Klingons, unless we see them in the original series makeup. Seeing &quot;New&quot; Klingons in an &quot;Old&quot; Trek will just hurt my poor little brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that everything will be consistent with TOS rather than the later Treks.</p>
<p>What I mean:<br />
I don&#8217;t want to see Vulcans or Romulans with those Neanderthal brow ridges, and I hope we don&#8217;t see Klingons, unless we see them in the original series makeup. Seeing &#8220;New&#8221; Klingons in an &#8220;Old&#8221; Trek will just hurt my poor little brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it jumps around in time I sure hope they update the future Kirk &amp; Spock uniforms &amp; not use those crappy red/brown ones used in the prevous movies. Make them retro or close to TNG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it jumps around in time I sure hope they update the future Kirk &amp; Spock uniforms &amp; not use those crappy red/brown ones used in the prevous movies. Make them retro or close to TNG.</p>
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		<title>By: Orbitalic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orbitalic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the &quot;why&quot; of the venom... 
Berman and Braga made few friends in fandom.. Trek was over-exposed. I am not blind to that.
TNG wasn&#039;t TOS... but what besides TOS itself could be?... It was a different time in the series sense and the timeline sense. Our reality changes, so should the Trek reality.
I have the problem with people&#039;s sense of timing. This is a TOS movie thread and that is the subject (even though I am now off-topic, dam...) But the hate continues... save it for the Spiner/Berman/Sirtis thread.
The spew gets thick sometimes and I come here to enjoy... not to listen to the continued whine of &quot;Why I hate everything but TOS&quot;
Pardon the off-topic..
...kicks the soapbox aside, and sets it aflame...

O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the &#8220;why&#8221; of the venom&#8230;<br />
Berman and Braga made few friends in fandom.. Trek was over-exposed. I am not blind to that.<br />
TNG wasn&#8217;t TOS&#8230; but what besides TOS itself could be?&#8230; It was a different time in the series sense and the timeline sense. Our reality changes, so should the Trek reality.<br />
I have the problem with people&#8217;s sense of timing. This is a TOS movie thread and that is the subject (even though I am now off-topic, dam&#8230;) But the hate continues&#8230; save it for the Spiner/Berman/Sirtis thread.<br />
The spew gets thick sometimes and I come here to enjoy&#8230; not to listen to the continued whine of &#8220;Why I hate everything but TOS&#8221;<br />
Pardon the off-topic..<br />
&#8230;kicks the soapbox aside, and sets it aflame&#8230;</p>
<p>O</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/01/03/star-trek-xi-update/comment-page-2/#comment-14879</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the venom for the later Trek shows that some people possess stems from the fact that, to many TOS fans, the shows don&#039;t ***feel*** like Star Trek, the television series or the TWOK-onwards incarnation. Strip away the Trek iconography from TNG and they see a completely different sci-fi series.

I don&#039;t hate TNG - indeed I watched all but one episode of it - but I was ultimately disappointed with it because it was lacking so much of what I liked in the original Star Trek. I view TNG more as a spin-off-cum-remake of ST:TMP and The Cage than a spin-off of Star Trek TOS and its subsequent films. And one of the criticisms of TMP was that it missed so much of what people liked in TOS.

It&#039;s not to say that that&#039;s bad, but some people were definitely disappointed - unfortunately some people take this further than others. For all we know, TNG will have a resurgence in popularity in years to come. But I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s horses for courses: there&#039;ll always be someone who likes one or other show better, because in a sense they&#039;re different fans of utterly different shows that happen to have a shared heritage.

To some, after all Berman&#039;s years running the franchise, there&#039;s a kind of feeling like a liberating army has come in and overthrown a dictator. That&#039;ll pass in a while and things will probably level out. And if you&#039;ve been reading mainstream sites across the web the last few years, you&#039;ll know there&#039;s been a lot of dissatisfaction, anger and betrayal felt by a lot of fans towards Berman and Braga and their ilk for a long time.

The abuse will probably stop, but to me, it&#039;s like fandom&#039;s in the process of lancing a boil. Rather than gripe about it, maybe it&#039;s better to let certain people get the bile out of their system (which I kinda have the last few weeks!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the venom for the later Trek shows that some people possess stems from the fact that, to many TOS fans, the shows don&#8217;t ***feel*** like Star Trek, the television series or the TWOK-onwards incarnation. Strip away the Trek iconography from TNG and they see a completely different sci-fi series.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate TNG &#8211; indeed I watched all but one episode of it &#8211; but I was ultimately disappointed with it because it was lacking so much of what I liked in the original Star Trek. I view TNG more as a spin-off-cum-remake of ST:TMP and The Cage than a spin-off of Star Trek TOS and its subsequent films. And one of the criticisms of TMP was that it missed so much of what people liked in TOS.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not to say that that&#8217;s bad, but some people were definitely disappointed &#8211; unfortunately some people take this further than others. For all we know, TNG will have a resurgence in popularity in years to come. But I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s horses for courses: there&#8217;ll always be someone who likes one or other show better, because in a sense they&#8217;re different fans of utterly different shows that happen to have a shared heritage.</p>
<p>To some, after all Berman&#8217;s years running the franchise, there&#8217;s a kind of feeling like a liberating army has come in and overthrown a dictator. That&#8217;ll pass in a while and things will probably level out. And if you&#8217;ve been reading mainstream sites across the web the last few years, you&#8217;ll know there&#8217;s been a lot of dissatisfaction, anger and betrayal felt by a lot of fans towards Berman and Braga and their ilk for a long time.</p>
<p>The abuse will probably stop, but to me, it&#8217;s like fandom&#8217;s in the process of lancing a boil. Rather than gripe about it, maybe it&#8217;s better to let certain people get the bile out of their system (which I kinda have the last few weeks!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Trevok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another excellent article. But just for the heck off it , and being happy to be shot down in flames, It is all supisition. The film could still be killed off by Paramount . Also there is nothing to say all that has been reported so far could be the greatest con trick of all time.
None of which I believe but needs to be stated as until the film is actually given a budget nothing can be taken forgranted.
    As for recasting Kirk , Spock, etc Nimoy himself stated years ago he believed this would eventually happen. He beliaved Trek characters had become iconic, the likes of Holms, Tarzan and so on. When you think about it they have been being played by other people for years in both fan preductions and paradies so maybe the time has finally come from them to become true icons and portrayed by other actors in a Hollywood film.
In any case it matters not what we think, because what will happen, will happen.
LLAP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another excellent article. But just for the heck off it , and being happy to be shot down in flames, It is all supisition. The film could still be killed off by Paramount . Also there is nothing to say all that has been reported so far could be the greatest con trick of all time.<br />
None of which I believe but needs to be stated as until the film is actually given a budget nothing can be taken forgranted.<br />
    As for recasting Kirk , Spock, etc Nimoy himself stated years ago he believed this would eventually happen. He beliaved Trek characters had become iconic, the likes of Holms, Tarzan and so on. When you think about it they have been being played by other people for years in both fan preductions and paradies so maybe the time has finally come from them to become true icons and portrayed by other actors in a Hollywood film.<br />
In any case it matters not what we think, because what will happen, will happen.<br />
LLAP</p>
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