Comments on: Review of “Where No Man Has Gone Before” Remastered

By: Geoff

Geoff — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:11:24 +0000

Re those stardates, I considered the matter very thoroughly. The original series stardates should have exhausted in 10 years. This episode alone spans from 1312.4 (opening entry) to 1313.8 (approaching Delta Vega) – just a few days for 1.4 stardates. Birth of Mitchell, 1087.7 – 294.7 stardates, which is a few months.

So, in my concept, stardates are often quoted with only the relevant digits (like saying “Happened back in ‘69″ or “Back on March 9″). But the computer adds the other digits automatically to a captain’s log. Now, what digits?

I figure three additional digits in Kirk’s day, two additional digits by Picard’s day (Starfleet realized it would be less ambiguous to have a century’s worth at a time). The first two digits are the “century” – 05 would be about 2223 to 2322, 06 would be 2323 to 2422, with 0641001 being about the year 2364, 0642001 being about the year 2365, etc. That enables Picard’s entries to be accurate, and the hidden digits for all of Kirk’s log entries in the series would be 054 – so Doomsday Machine’s 4202.4 becomes (054)4202.4.

But that’s just my idea.

And oh yes, Dehner’s height would be 171 cm, Mitchell’s 175 cm. Or whatever the actual heights of the actors are.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:59:23 +0000

It is utterly inconceivable that the microfilmed-typewritten reports on Dehner’s and Mitchell’s ESP ratings was not remastered. Those shots are horrible! Who would still be using a typewriter in the 23rd century (EMP from a nuclear blast?), and why are the details of their lives so unimaginative?!

Dehner was born on “Delman”, and lives on the street “1489″ in the city of “Delman” in the state of “Newst(cut off)”. Born 1089.5, and height 5′ 2″.

Mitchell was born on “Eldman”, and lives on the street “8149″ in the city of “Eldman” in the state of “New(cut off). Born 1087.7, and height 5′ 9″.

What a coincidence that one was born in a place that’s a typo of the other! And that they both still live on the same places as their birth! And that they were born within 24 hours of each other but have different ages (If you divide 1000 stardates by 365, you get almost 3 a day). And the actors were actually the same height! (Possibly cast after these SFX shots were created.) And their street names have the same numbers!

And their birth stardates are only days prior to the stardates of this episode! I can’t believe that Roddenberry and co. wouldn’t approve of Okuda & co. revising those screens and putting more realistic and imaginative information on the screen, using an ultra-fast scroll of black text on white, so fast it’s all on the screen in a tenth of a second.

Okay, I’d fix it up good.

Dehner: born planet Mars, 2 June 2243, SD (052)0513; Last Stationary Address 1489 Opportunity Way, unit 623, Memnonia City, Mars Colony

Mitchell: born planet Earth, 21 February 2233, SD (051)3114; Last Stationary Address 81948 Delman Road, unit 6942, Oakland, California, USA, Earth

No resemblance whatsoever! Each is fairly distinct (except 1489 and 81948, which are homages to the original detail).

By: RD

RD — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:13:45 +0000

What about restoring the original pilot? That seems like a no-brainer. What an incredible bonus to add to the re-mastered DVD set.

By: RD

RD — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:10:41 +0000

Too bad they didn’t put Spock back into his correctly colored division blue uniform. That should have been a relatively easy change.

By: Ralph

Ralph — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:05:43 +0000

I found a deleted scenes on mytube of “Where No Man Has Gone Before”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xe5SUxq25I&mode=related&search=

By: mrregular

mrregular — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:40:43 +0000

During the final scene on the bridge, when Kirk is talking with Spock, the “beep beep” of the Valiant’s recorder-marker can be heard in the background.
Perhaps we are to assume that the recorder-marker is off screen, on the bridge, physically connected by USB cable to Spock’s computer console, in an attempt to gain more data from it.
That’s the only logical explanation that makes sense to me.

By: tuc

tuc — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 06:07:42 +0000

Well people here sure seem to differ about the time-pressure issue. It seems to me that if CBS Digital needs to get out the rest of the episodes that will air this season, plus finish all the 1966-67 episodes in 1080i by the end of the year, that they are under some pretty heave time pressure.

On the quality-of-SFX issue, do keep in mind that it’s much harder to put new SFX onto existing film than to do SFX for a new show as it’s being shot. (Space shots excepted for TOS-R, of course.)

#33 “The last major network series that worked that way that I can think of was Quantum Leap, although I’m sure there may be others).”

Nowhere Man beats Quantum Leap by a half-decade or so (though I suppose it might not be considered “major”). I’m sure there have been others, but I don’t watch much tv. #90 mentions Supernatural, which I haven’t even heard of. (I enjoyed Nowhere Man but it got cheezy at the end.)

By: SPOCKBOY

SPOCKBOY — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:14:05 +0000

Well Matt,
It’s an amazing program that gives you a HUGE library of effects that you can alter and change. You can superimpose these effects over anything you like.
Actually I made a mistake though, Adobe didnt create it. It was a company called Wondertouch. Check it out…

The program is called PARTICLE ILLUSION.

http://www.wondertouch.com/

By: FredCFO

FredCFO — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:08:44 +0000

Of course, the barrier shows up again in “By Any Other Name” in the second season and “In Truth Is There No Beauty” in the third.

They should have fixed the R and the computer records. The chronometer was fixed, why not this stuff?

By: Matt Wright

Matt Wright — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:47:57 +0000

wow good work SpockBoy, makes ya wonder eh? BTW: What is Adobe Illusion? I have never heard of it.