Remastered “For The World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky” Screenshots and Video [UPDATED]

Nice job with the phasers and the destruction of the missiles. However, the top right 3/4 view looked flat. Very flat. There is simply something about the battleship (haze) gray that defies depth perception and other visual cues.

Oh yeah – that’s what it’s supposed to do! (camoflage)

Still, I enjoyed the story line in this episode much more, seeing through the eyes of an adult. It didn’t make much sense as a kid. And Kate Woodville… vavavavoom!

Anybody notice that the Impulse Engines were finally lit up, if only in one scene? OK, CBS Digital — now that you have finally fixed this oversight at least in one scene, can you now go retrospective and prospective and keep them lit up in EVERY other scene? Thank you kindly!!!!

Also anybody know when Star Trek airs on Saturday in the Los Angeles area — what channel and what time?

I live in Palm Springs, California — and the only listing I could find is Sundays at Midnight on KNBC Channel 4 (which in Palm Springs they actually turn it into a infomercial network for a while, then switch it back to KNBC at midnight for Star Trek.)

I’m tired of waiting until Monday morning when everybody else obviously sees it on Saturday.

Overall I thought it was OK, not great but the added effects were quite good. If this had been an episode of TNG we would never paid that much attention to the lighting.

I think we look at these with such critical eyes that we miss the fact that CBS-D did nearly two minutes of effects work in one week’s time. Something none of the other series could have possibly done. Even TOS in it’s day was taking about four weeks to complete it’s final effects shots. However, I have no idea how much time was just spent on exterior shots.

It looked like none of the interior shots had been touched, although I don’t remember at all the shot through the spiral staircase, it sort of surprised me.

I’ve been reading Trek stuff for about 30 years, and I remember reading in some source or other years ago that one possible explanation for why sometimes the nacelle caps are lit up and spinning, and at other times they’re not, is that the spinning/lit caps happen when the Enterprise is warping and the matter and anti-matter are reacting. When it’s in orbit around a planet, they’re not lit up because the impulse engines are then working. (Does anyone recall where I may have read this rationalization?)

Of course, this is an after-the-fact fan explanation for the discrepancies between the small earlier model and the later, larger, better-lit model. However, I always liked that explanation, and thought that when the effects were redone, they might try doing something like that. I personally would dig seeing dimly lit nacelles when the ship is in orbit, or when it’s travelling sub-light, and only seeing the impulse engines lit up when it’s not warping. Any takers? Or is this the kind of thing that folks are complaining about and I’m just not catching the nuances of their complaints? Do people want the nacelle caps AND the impulse engines to be fully lit ALL the time?

Scott B. out.

I agree that the inconsistancies are at times agrrivating. I’ll withold my final judgement until they have fixed and/or retrofitted the entire series with all the final effects. I remember reading about the new fx work in Aug 06 and the air date was one month later… considering that the CBS-D team started with, what they claimed, was a super complex model that ate rendering time… CBS-D got started with one hand tied behind their back. On a normal series like this, they spend a lot of time running and rendering test shots in pre-production well before the show ever gets aired or before principle photography finishes. In this case they had to fire up all the new fx from an almost dead-start with a weekly air-date that was weeks, not months away.

I think they are doing some great work with the time contraints facing them. The final jugement comes with Doomsday (which they cannot fail on), Immunity Syndrom and Ultimate Computer. I’d be willing to bet that CBS-D has been letting a lot of things slide in order to get all the sfx work done for Doomsday. My hope is that they will retrofit all the episodes that have already aired with the final, correctly lit, renders and make them available on DVD or on TV land.

Keep on rockin’ CBS-D!

Compared to WNMHGB last week. It felt to me like the Enterprise was a little cartoonish in some scenes. This was a substantial improvement. What bugs me a little is the syndicated cuts. I’m really not use to that as i have been watching the DVD’s for awhile or catching the uncut episodes on G4 .*shrugs* cant have everything. I ‘m just use to seeing some things as pieces of dialogue .

My favorite shot is when the Enterprise is running parallel to Yonada. I think the Impulse engine light up is fine but at least it didn’t look like some afterburners coming out of the engines.

Was it my imagination or did they ‘fix” the Third Season Opening credits for this one?

3rd season opening credits were fixed, yes. The Enterprise did appear where it was supposed to. Maybe in the last one, the Enterprise was in Scalosian mode? lol Or perhaps it was that cloaking device they picked up from the Romulans during season 3? hee, hee

From what I can make out on the recordings I ahve made of the episodes, the running lights are working. they just light up/flash at a very dim level. This could be because of HD. But, beats me.

Ok, I just watched a bit of “World is Hollow” … Maybe Anthony can find out why there is such a level of inconsistency from week to week. Does CBS Digital work in two teams, each responsible for alternating episodes or something??

This week looks sooooo much better than last week. What gives? I’d love to hear some comments from the animators as to how they feel their work holds up from week to week… where they feel they fall short, and where they feel they excel.

Would be a cool article. Doug

It’d be nice to read an article here about the effects shop people. It would be very interesting to know alittle more about the process. After all, this is TrekMovie.com TM. Not just some run-of-the-mill Trek site! Anthony’s connected! ……Ok, anyway, I’d surely like to know some details about the process and how they decide what effects, shots to redo…..

I sometimes wonder if they are way ahead on these episodes, or barely keeping up. It would be interesting to see just what the process is. Sometimes I wonder if the inconsistent effects have something to do with when they were actually completed/done. Perhaps the ones that look “flat” were done earlier on and “put on the shelf” as filler episodes that aren’t so “effects heavy”. Maybe other episodes need a lot more TLC and are worked on over a longer period of time and right up until the deadline (we’ve pretty much been told this about “Doomsday”). The fact that the entire season one is supposed to hit dvd before Christmas ’07 really makes me wonder if they aren’t further ahead on SOME of these episodes than we realize, yet, behind in others.

Funny thing happened. I went back and looked at the episode “Miri” which I recorded when it aired way back during that first week. I swear the ship looked lots better than I remembered. Heck, I think maybe the deflector dish even had more color. The nacelles were off, just as I remembered, but didn’t bother me nearly as much as I thought they would. Perhaps that shows the power of suggestion: nacelles are off, Daren’s balls are too big and shiny, the deflector isn’t colorful enough, and so on. Maybe we oughta just sit back and enjoy all of this. I look at these effects vs. SOME of the originals…and WOW, what an improvement MOST of the time. It’s a great time for TOS fans! Soak it in!!!!

“For The World…” has some great effects now. What a nice set of shots this week. Can’t wait for the next two weeks! Could be lots of fun, or a big let down, who knows?

The one thing that needs no help from CBS-D; Leonard Nimoy. I have always loved the “needs of the one” plot lines in TOS. Even as a kid, I really dug that these people were so loyal that they’d throw away everything just to help one of their own in distress. This was of course most true of Spock. I mean, you just live for those moments where you see a crack in his armor and the human emerges.

Case in point, the scene in this episode where Spock learns of McCoy’s illness. The moment where McCoy catches Spock helping him up and the following close-up of Nimoy is brilliant. Without a word or emotion, you see the depth of this relationship. Nothing else is needed. I’ll say it again, Brilliant.

Even in it’s less-than-stellar moments, this show is great!

I thought the effects looked pretty good this week — but at the same time wondered how much of the ship work itself was recycled from earlier efforts. A lot of the moves looked familiar to me, recomposited with the asteroid model.

I don’t mean that AT ALL as a criticism either. They have to have some “stock footage” or they’d never finish an episode. I was just curious if others had a similar reaction.

I meant to say ship. Tired…

I missed the colored lighting on Yonada.

Hmmm… if you look below the shuttlebay on the original shot there’s these cool funky lights (red and blue), but if you look at the remastered picture, there’s no lights and the shapes are wrong. Now I never noticed those lights before, but I like ’em. The lighting in the windows of the original look better too. On the new version it’s difficult to tell if the windows are even there.

Well with this episode I will say it for the first time: I prefer the old effects.

Sixties style (yes, with warts and all, and psychedelic colours) over computer game blandness!

Agreed Nelson, I’m slowly coming to the unhappy realisation that although it has been a great idea to upgrade various effects and shots for High Definition presentation… the new effects have NOT been able to match or convey the original, VIBRANT, CREATIVE, COLOUR seen in various comparisons on this site. From a design viewpoint, I think it would have been terrific to see new, improved effects featuring the original, 60’s STYLIZED, LIGHTING…which would have continued to tie in with the rest of the show’s 60’s stylized, lighting, which now seems jarring alongside the now more “realistic” (?) lighting schem

I’ll join in with the regret over the lack of color on Yonanda, and now that it’s pointed out, the missing landing lights (put some higher wattage bulbs throughout that the Big E, please!) — but I’ll stop short of agreeing that the entire affort is not cutting it.

In fact, I went back over the last couple of days and looked at all the FX reels again, and was struck by how many strikingly beautiful shots have been acheived: the leaving-orbit shot from “Catspaw,” pretty much everything from “Space Speed,” those wonderful CGI mattes… and lets not forget the fly-in from “The Menagerie.” So I’ll agree with Cervantes that some shots have missed the mark in terms of matching the vibrancy of the original, but for me at least, the project has been a resounding success overall.

Just make the ship look as it was….only clearer. Sure, add the impulse engines sometimes, show some lights on that never were, but show it as it was, give it the colored windows below the shuttlebay and lets move onward.

Most of the old Enterprise shots look better in the above screen shots. You can see the CGI Enterprise doesn’t have the hangar lit correctly, the lights are off, and the “landing marker lights” are off as well.

This episode’s FX were wonderfully done, especially that long shot of the Enterprise in orbit of Yonada as Kirk contacts Starfleet Command. The ship looked HUGE and the length of the shot gave me time to look at the details of the ship. If memory serves, the original FX shot was a porrly slowed down version of the same shot used throughout the episode.

My only gripe (and there has to be one, doesn’t there) was the destruction of the missiles at the opening. Wish those had been more explode-y.

Not sure what’s up with the impulse engines. Seems to me that if the ship is traveling through space, but not at warp speed, the impulse engines should be ON. They aren’t necessary if she’s in orbit of a planet, but they’re needed to enter or break orbit for certain.

Of course, CBS Digital has decided to retain the TOS ambiguity of exactly when the ship is at warp. The only way we ever knew was through dialog because there were no “warp effects” as in the films and later TV series. It would be nice to see the TOS Enterprise actually “go to warp,” but the powers that be prbably feel that would betray their mantra of updating rather than redefining the the FX shots.

Finally, the bickering about how the Enterprise looks is becoming a little tedious. We’ve gotten past the nacelle issues (thankfully), but I believe there is still too much quibbling over little details. In my view, the Enterprise looks much more realistic than it ever did in TOS. The plating highlights are nice but not overdone and she seems to have some real mass to her. Considering the huge time constraints on the FX team, they’ve done a great job of producing and integrating the scenes into the show. They’re never going to please everyone, but by and large they have pleased me. Yeah, there are things I wished they had fixed that they didn’t and a few opportunities I think they missed, but sometimes I think we fall into nitpicking and “splitting hairs” here.

The Enterprise looks fine. Stop scrutinizing her so much or she’ll develop a mental disorder ;-)

HEY!……….whatever you wise ones say!!!

all i know is alot of the new third season recration shots done are NOT up to par…with the originals in “FTWIHAIHTTS”

This one is FAR better than they recreated!