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Shatner Talks More About Being In Star Trek XI February 1, 2007

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Shatner,ST09 Cast,STXI Plot , trackback

In the latest ‘ShatnerVision’, the original Captain Kirk again talks about the dilemma of the how to make Star Trek XI work with two captains Kirk. He also reiterates the point that he and Leonard Nimoy should be in the film to ensure its success.


Shatner Talks Star Trek XI

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StillKirok
February 1, 2007 1:21 pm

There’s absolutely nothing new here. I would love to hear Abrams talk about it.

All the talk about old and young Kirk meeting up seems to be merely speculation on the part of Shatner. It doesn’t seem to have any real basis in actual script knowledge.

Sounds like nothing new.

Canonista the Cultist
February 1, 2007 1:28 pm

I’m leaning more and more towards wanting Shat in XI.

Shat’s being there helps reinforce my trust that Trek XI will honor its lineage and not go off on a bizarre tangent. Then again, Generations was supposed to be like that as well.

I still think its will help more than it will hurt.

Herbert Eyes Wide Open
February 1, 2007 1:30 pm

“How charming and mystical will it be?”

Bingo, Shatman!

Let’s all hope that JJ is the guy to put our money on…

Michael Appleton
February 1, 2007 1:35 pm

When Shatner’s daughter asks him, “you’d be like an Obi Wan..”, he says, “like a guru…” then pauses and has a subtle smile. Did anyone else catch that? The Shat knows more about the story then he’s telling.

Admiraldeem
February 1, 2007 1:50 pm

I thought it was just gas…and we’ve seen a lot of that on this subject already.

How about a rating system which will warn us that this clip will shed absolutely no light on new ground.

In all this, my biggest regret is that De Kelley did not live long enough to be included–he will be missed. I hope JJ and company include him somewhere on video or a photo or something ala Jack Webb in Ackroyd’s Dragnet film.

Don Corleone
February 1, 2007 2:08 pm

Shatner knows more than what he is saying.

When you consider that the film is rumored to take place over several timeframes I think the whole old Kirk meets young Kirk is in the script.

I can’t wait to see Shatner back as Kirk.

Sam Belil
February 1, 2007 2:19 pm
I PRAY that this is not a time travel episode. Don’t get me wrong – I totally love Time Travel (especially “City of the Edge of Forever” and “Yesterday’s Enterprise”) but I honestly believe Star Trek has really been “Time Travelled to Death”. I prefer Kirk and Spock “flashingback to their early days” using that as a spring board to re-boot the franchise featuring their younger selves. The story needs to be completely fresh and original. Does anyone out there REALLY WANT TO SEE another time travel epic,???? Besides it can open up a can of worms, eg. “Old” Spock… Read more »
Mazzer
February 1, 2007 2:25 pm

Yeah, after watching the clip, it sounds like Shatner is promoting the idea of his being in the film, while the script and JJ Abrams may have made no such commitment.

My theory is that Shatner is still negotiating a role, based on some contractual obligation that Paramount and Abrams are tied to, and Shatner wants an enormous salary for it too. This video is another attempt by him to make it hard for Abrams to turn him down.

Maybe there’s still hope he won’t be there to ruin it.

John N.
February 1, 2007 2:27 pm

Time travel overdone in Trek? I’m sure that nobody has noticed that it’s been overdone…

Sisko: “James T. Kirk?”
Agent#1: “The one and only.”
Agent#2: “17 separate temporal violations. The biggest file on record.”
Agent#1: “The man was a menace.”

OK… maybe they’ve noticed.

Picardsucks
February 1, 2007 2:28 pm

Shatner is my pappi

Dom
February 1, 2007 2:31 pm

Shatner is a superb showman. He doesn’t need to say anything new to get us yapping!

CmdrR
February 1, 2007 2:36 pm

#7 et al – I agree, please don’t make this a time travel or dimension jumping thingie. In fact, keep it real. Or as real as sci-fi gets. Shatner and Nimoy can be reminiscing, but please don’t have men in their 70’s meeting face to face with themselves in their 20’s or 30’s. That’s just bad storytelling. We want a story we can relate to. No supernatural crap. Let them tip their hat, then get on with the movie!!!!

#10 – Shatner may BE your pappy. And mine, for all I know. T. is for Tomcat.

February 1, 2007 2:51 pm

okay, my take on “the story”,

Shat & Nimoy want real parts, not cameos, it will be a story that has to jump around, sort of like Kill Bill 1 & 2 (or Pulp Fiction) where you can come in at any time and keep watching the film in a loop, this does not need time travel or younger & older selves to meet, either.

It does take some imaginative storytelling though.

Can J.J. do it?

hmmm

ALLAN ROSE
February 1, 2007 3:48 pm

MAYBE SHATNER AND NIMOY COULD BE IN ALL MOVIES SO THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE ASSURED OF SUCCESS.

Dr. Image
February 1, 2007 4:01 pm

Like I’ve said, there’s a Kirk clone running around still alive in the TNG era.
But then we get into time travel again….. .GAAAA!!

Herbert Eyes Wide Open
February 1, 2007 4:07 pm

#14. ALLEN ROSE

Oh man, that would be great… ya’ think it could happen?

Oh, wait… you were being facetious, weren’t you? Jeeez, that’s just mean! ;)

Jon
February 1, 2007 4:37 pm

He(Shatner) could simply be what the younger Kirk would imagine himself as in old age.Presto ,no reference to Kirk’s death necessary.

acb
February 1, 2007 4:45 pm
#17 i agree Jon, I think many people are focusing too much on what they think Shatner is saying and not on what he is actually saying. All he seems to be referencing here when he mentions the “old kirk and the new Kirk” here is the notion of having him even appear within the film that has most of its story revolving around a younger Kirk and there being enough actual time to tell the story of explaining any inclusion of Kirk’s death or resurrection or whatever. He is simply commenting on how he does not know for sure… Read more »
Xai
February 1, 2007 4:49 pm

I asked an entertainment media reporter/ editor friend of mine about the movie and Paramount, Shatner, etc.
His quote….
“I talked to Damon Lindelof who does Lost and he said he was working on the script but he wouldn’t say which cast would be featured. He was real sneaky about it. ”
This neither confirms or denies any of the reports and rumors. It DOES confirm that Anthony and crew are as well informed as the best of the rest of the media.
Thank you to my friend and Trekmovie

Still Kirok
February 1, 2007 5:03 pm

He has mentioned that dealing with Kirk being dead is a problem. They wouldn’t insult the intelligence of the fans and ignore it. It also doesn’t make sense to see an Obi-Wan type thing, because there are no ghosts in Star Trek.

Magic_Al
February 1, 2007 5:31 pm
One fear I have of old Kirk meeting new Kirk is that the scenes could have an echo of Nemesis, two actors asking us to believe they are different outcomes of the same physical being. I didn’t buy Tom Hardy as anything remotely resembling or related to Patrick Stewart. Avoiding that problem increases the risk is that, even if they avoid the bad vibes of Nemesis, the new Kirk actor would be obligated, by Shatner’s presence, to mimic Shatner. For a new Trek franchise to be successful, the new Kirk must be more than a William Shatner impression. But if… Read more »
JB
February 1, 2007 5:56 pm
Shatner asks, “How do you get the old Captain Kirk to meet the young Captain Kirk?” Easy. You don’t. It’s a terrible idea, for all the reasons stated above and more. That said, I’m all for casting Shatner and Nimoy in the movie. It’s possible they could even have meaningful roles v. cameos or flashbacks. If I were doing a character-based “origin” story for Kirk a la Batman Begins, I could easily see Shatner playing George Kirk Sr., James’ father. And I bet Nimoy would make a compelling villain. These guys are good actors, let them do something different. And… Read more »
Oscar Benjamin
February 1, 2007 6:55 pm
With all due respect to William Shatner-the idea of an old Kirk meeting a young Kirk is absolutely horrendous. He tells us that Paramount is taking a big risk with this revival and to help sell the ideas to fans he and Leonard Nimoy should be included in this proposed film. Besides failing to mention other original cast members be permitted to be in the film-it appears he just is basically promoting self-interest no matter how illogical and absurd his speculation is. Mr. Shatner fails to even take into account recent casting changes to such characters as Superman and James… Read more »
Josh T. ( The Undiscovered Wrath of Spock Voyage) Kirk Esquire'
February 1, 2007 9:29 pm
How to get young Captain Kirk to meet old Captain Kirk WITHOUT incorporating time travel, and have it be a reasonably coherent and logical subtext of the films greater plot. (I say this because Shatner really backpeddaled magnificently when pressed on this issue by his daughter, he shut up rather quickly, skittish acting, I’d say it’s a legitimate plot device) A. Parallel universes (possibly including Mirror Universe) B. Q C. Clone of Kirk D. Reanimated evil corpse Kirk / Reanimated Good corpse Kirk E. Something occurs in the universe that triggers a calamity resulting in various timelines merging- not so… Read more »
Kevin
February 2, 2007 2:01 am
I agree w/ him that they need Shatner and Nimoy to make it work. This is also something of tradition in Star Trek. All the television series and movies have had this kind of passing of the baton. Putting old Kirk and new Kirk in the same scene may not be a very good idea. That’s why I’m hoping for a more flashback type of thing. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it w/ my last breath- I do not support a restart like Bond or Batman. Bond was based on a series of books and Batman was based… Read more »
Londo
February 2, 2007 2:13 am

You know, the ageing 15 years or so of Shatner and Nimoy doesn’t matter so much – they can use the SFX technique used in X-Men 3 to make them look TUC-age.

Michael Appleton
February 2, 2007 3:06 am

Star Trek XI: The Search For More Money

Michael Appleton
February 2, 2007 3:19 am
Picture it: A quick flashback to the engineering section of Enterprise-B in Generations just before the Nexus wave hits the ship. Kirk has just effected the repair when a wrinkled old hand reaches out and touches him on the shoulder. It’s Spock, back through time to save his best friend. He beams both their asses out of there just before the wave hits the ship. No visit to the Nexus, thereby fixing TOS history line and Picard in the future will have to come up with an alternate solution of how to leave the Nexus and beat Soran. Say returning… Read more »
Paul W.
February 2, 2007 4:46 am

#29.. Michael.. I love that idea. Would be a good one.. I don’t mind the time travel thing. I would love a mirror universe thing too. But then again.. that’s just me.

Herbert Eyes Wide Open
February 2, 2007 7:30 am

#25. Josh T

I gotta go with A, E or H as the most viable, workable solutions.

But man… I & J would be sweet. I’d even give my Fed Ex number to have J Priority Overnighted! By the way, who’s blood? ;)

brady
February 2, 2007 8:27 am

i think i may have just gotten an idea from what the shat said,,,,lets see if yall can run with this….in star trek 5 ….he said he knew hed always die alone….could it be when he was younger he met his older dead self?…could that explain his cockyness at dead because he knew hed live through years of danger because he knows he’ll die in his 60’s?….sounds like a way of workin the shat in.

Kyle H
February 2, 2007 8:52 am

#32

I like the idea of picking up on that line from STV. There’s something about the closeup of the Shat that says there’s something more to be explored. Good writing could make all kinds of things from past Trek incarnations really “pop” — things from TOS, the original cast movies, and Generations. We’ll see!!

Xai
February 2, 2007 11:02 am

I don’t want XI to be saddled with resurecting Kirk, explaining Generations or any of it. We all want this to be successful and to do that we need to keep it exciting, thoughtful (but not boring) and very Trek. But don’t muddy the story line with contrived Kirk meets Kirk scenes. If it goes too far to explain his death and the events that preceded it, it may appease some fanboys, but the mainstream will shy away. I want a good story and in my mind, Shatner’s presence is not necessarily needed for that to happen. IMO

X

DEMODE
February 2, 2007 12:17 pm
The Guardian of Forever… There is alot we don’t know about the Guardian. I can imagine the Guardian bringing Kirk back. For some reason, I picture Kirk, laying on an old slab of stone, his eyes opening and sitting up, not knowing where he is. He looks over to his side, and see’s the glowing portal of the Guardian. Kirk asks “Why am I here?”, and the Guardian tells him “It was not your time to die…” Something like that would be haunting. As for Spock, it could be that the Guardian was sending him messages in his dreams to… Read more »
Kathy
February 3, 2007 11:02 pm

I think Chris Doohan has a better chance at the Scotty role then Shatner has at being in STXI What do u think/

DEMODE
February 4, 2007 11:45 am

Sorry Kathy, but I disagree. Shatner will be in the movie, as will Nimoy. Its something that the fans want.

MichaelJohn
February 5, 2007 1:14 am
Just reading these posts over the past few months tells me that there are many diverse opinions and desires regarding the new movie, and the future of the Trek franchise. It’s obvious that not all fans are hoping and wishing that Shatner and Nimoy will be in the next movie. I for one, don’t really care either way. If they can come up with a really good story that somehow incorporates an older Kirk and Spock, then I’m all for it. But, if they have to sacrifice having a quality script and believable plot, just to have these two actors… Read more »
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