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Big Decision Week For Star Trek XI? February 5, 2007

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Abrams,STXI Status , trackback

TrekMovie.com has already reported that February is the point where Trek XI could move from ‘development’ to getting a green light (or not) and going into pre-production. In the last few weeks we have been getting various reports from sources around the studio that things are progressing and preperations are already being made to start some preliminary work the coming weeks. Now comes this from today’s Hollywood Reporter:

Over at Paramount Pictures, for example, there is now a question whether J.J. Abrams will direct "Star Trek XI." …Although Paramount is hopeful that Abrams will captain the Starship Enterprise, sources said the director likely will make his decision later this week.

It has been the working assumption in the trades (and even at Paramount) that Abrams would direct the film, but Abrams has been coy about this decision. In November J.J. told TrekMovie.com he wouldn’t decide until he had a script and was sure he was the right person for the film. This decision for Abrams to direct or not would be one of the last items in finalizing the plans for the film to move into pre-production. Of course if Abrams chooses not to direct, then (if he doesn’t have one set already) the search for a director could be a bit of a delay. However unless the process were prolonged it is unlikely to change the planned 2008 release.

Comments

1. Lukas - February 5, 2007

SHOTGUN 1ST POST lets hope it’s either Abrams, Frakes or Meyer hey?

2. chris - February 5, 2007

meyer please

3. steve-o - February 5, 2007

lukas i completley agree with your list… however im pulling more for frakes or meyer being that im not too familiar with abrams.

I would just like everyone to say a small prayer to whom ever your god may be that this film gets the green light, and that we love the final product

4. Keith - February 5, 2007

J Frakes for me. Some of his films (eg Insurrection and Thunderbirds) were missed opportunities but I think well directed. In both those cases he managed to squeeze the best out of the rubbish story he was saddled with. He would certainly bring passion and skill to the job if he got it, and it would just be really damn nice if it was him!

5. Matt - February 5, 2007

JJ Abrams or Nicholas Meyer for me.

6. Darren Baker - February 5, 2007

It hurts in a way to say this, but Frakes is, at best, a mediochre director who got a pooch that couldn’t be screwed in First Contact. That is all.

What they need is a director who isn’t a Trek fan, though I think that probably doesn’t hurt Abrams too much. That’s why Meyer’s Treks were the best… He wasn’t interested in making a good Star Trek film inasmuch as making a good film, period.

7. Star Trek Rocker - February 5, 2007

If JJ Abrams doesn’t direct (which I hope he does!) then I would go for either Frakes or Meyer, if either are available.

I honestly feel that the director needs to be at least somewhat familiar, if not an actual fan, of Star Trek. Stuart Baird wasn’t at all familiar, and look what that got us!

\\//_

8. Anthony Pascale - February 5, 2007

well bear in mind that the writers and producers are all mega fans, so I think the film would be safe with a talented director who wasnt. And if not Abrams then I think it is a safe bet that who ever it is will be a Trek newcomer

9. Darth Ballz - February 5, 2007

Frakes and Meyer will never direct a Trek picture again, espcially Meyer who has stated many times that he is done with the Trek universe. Abrams will direct the movie with pressure from Paramount, this also keeps Trek in the news with him being coy and Shatner Bla, Bla Blaing about being in the movie……..

Darth “I’ll direct the F*$king thing” Ballz

10. Star Trek Rocker - February 5, 2007

I’d say it is probably a safe bet to say that simply having Abrams associated with the film in any way at all will certainly help bring in fans and non-fans alike. (Not to mention that having the Shat involved doen’t hurt, either!)

So many other factors play into the success of a movie as well, such as holidays, and compitition from other movies at the same time, etc. I’m hoping that a little more forethought goes into it this time around.

So certainly a different perspective from a different director won’t hurt, as long as it isn’t dark and dismal, a la Nemesis.

\\//_

11. StillKirok - February 5, 2007

If this movie fixes Generations, I don’t care if Garrett Wang directs it.

12. David - February 5, 2007

if not jj then i think bryan singer should do it…i think i remember him saying something about wanting to do that if possible…not sure if it had anything to do with his cameo in nemesis or not…it would be interesting…

13. Rob Walley - February 5, 2007

Singer is a big fan, but won’t direct is he can’t have a little of the creative control Abrams now has. Abrams would be great but I fear he has his hands in too many cookie jars to have the time to produce and direct, so he’ll just produce. Meyer, too, probably won’t jump in either, unless he can participate in the script writing. Frakes would do it in a second, but I think he’d be a B-list choice at this point.

Leonard Nimoy is the wildcard here. He might just come out of retirement and direct this and Abrams would come off looking like a genius!

14. Keith - February 5, 2007

Methinks the only answer is that they should ask Stuart Baird.

15. StillKirok - February 5, 2007

Nimoy would be a huge coup. You know with Nimoy, he’d either make a good movie, or walk away from the project.

After Superman Returns, I’m not so confident in Singer.

But no way would I want anyone who was ever associated with the abominal TNG films to be involved in the creative process of anything to do with Kirk and crew. These idiots killed Kirk in the first place.

As for Baird, the guy directed the biggest flop in Trek history. Frakes directed the second biggest flop. Neither one are right. The last thing you want in restarting the franchise is to bring in some of the people that screwed it up.

16. james - February 5, 2007

Nimoy or Meyer…..or……SHATNER!

17. Jeff - February 5, 2007

Nimoy would be an awesome replacement

18. Matt - February 5, 2007

Nimoy is too old to deal with the rigours of such a large project.

19. jonboc - February 5, 2007

JJ is a hardcore TOS fan. For such a fan, this would be the gig of a lifetime…he’ll direct it.

20. Doug - February 5, 2007

Hey, while we’re at it, why don’t we see if Avery Brooks, or Patrick Stewart want to direct it? Maybe Levar Burton or Gates McFadden will step up to the plate. C’mon guys, there is a world of talented directors out there.

Stop the inbreeding.

If Abrams doesn’t direct, lets hope they look DEEP into the talent pool and find someone who makes good story and character driven movies work!

I want some depth. -d

(ps i’m ripped – my dvr missed the first five minutes of journey to babel… and ostensibly the coolest shot in the show. why NBC why?? 3:05 on a Monday morning… who came up with that time slot for NYC?)

21. Herbert Eyes Wide Open - February 5, 2007

Christopher Nolan…

Memento, Batman Begins, The Prestige…

Solid storyteller… Great visual sensibilities… More than a capable director…

Somebody new who understands what’s come before but isn’t afraid to re-invent.

22. A - February 5, 2007

Cool

23. Summer Storm Pictures - February 5, 2007

Honestly, and forgetting that Leonard Nimoy has talked about “retirement”, but it was both he and Meyer who brought us the best movies in the original cast movies, so throw Nimoy’s hat into the ring for directing as well. In a sense, having someone directing from the “old school” mixed in with new actors portraying the original cast characters is far far better than just having an old cast member show up in the movie. Nimoy for director! Let’s hear an amen!

24. Keith - February 5, 2007

In case of doubt as somebody didn’t get it, my suggestion of Stuart Baird was meant to be a joke!

25. StillKirok - February 5, 2007

The joke didn’t come through in text, but good to know you are sane. As for Nimoy, as pointed out, he has a very good track record. Saying he’s too old is laughable. Age is a number. If the man believes he can do it, he can. There is absolutely no reason to believe he can’t direct. To prove my point, there’s a guy out there named Eastwood who is a year older than Nimoy. He’s only nominated for Best Director currently.

26. Josh T. ( The Undiscovered Wrath of Spock Voyage The Motion Picture) Kirk Esquire' - February 5, 2007

Let’s petition Uncle George Lucas to direct, “faster, quicker, more intense.”

There’s a reason the SHAT sang to George during the Lucas suckfest recently,

Star Trek : Episode XI – The Shat hits the fans

27. Keith - February 5, 2007

I’m wondering why nobody has remembered that Vulcans have a longer lifespan than us humans.

28. SithMenace - February 5, 2007

Christopher Nolan wouldn’t be my top choice for this. As good as batman Begins was, and as much as I’m looking forward to The Dark Knight, he isn’t that great of an action director. Some of the action scenes in BB were really, really choppy. This movie needs a director that can find the perfect balance between character and action, and based on the Lost pilot episode and MI:3, Abrams is the man for the job.

Mark my words, Abrams will direct this film, and he’s known it all along.

29. mazzer - February 5, 2007

It should be a director who’s never been involved in ST before, else the likelyhood is that it’ll be back to the same old tired routine and style.

30. Darren Baker - February 5, 2007

Stuart Baird is the best working editor in the world today. He is among the greatest ever editors. As a director, he is rubbish, unfortunately.

Christopher Nolan is a big name now, and I’m not entirely sure why. He manages to take a great idea, and without fail, to a one, he turns it boring. He knows how to make a movie, has a great technical staff, and can talk it up for days on end… Problem is, the end result is invariably glacially paced and sleep-inducing.

Nimoy is too old, and not really that good of a director. By a huge margin, his biggest hit was a pretty awful comedy where, in the words of the immortal Chili Palmer, “…three grown-up guys get left with a baby, and so they act like three grown-up assholes, acting all cute…”

J.J. Abrams will direct, I’m sure, because that’s just what he does. If he doesn’t, I can’t even think of who would be a good choice. The person who mentioned drawing directing talent from within the Trek gene pool as being akin to inbreeding is totally right; If they hire a Trek actor to direct this, I won’t even go see it, I swear to Christ.

31. VOODOO - February 5, 2007

LEONARD NIMOY!!!!!!

32. Dennis Bailey - February 5, 2007

If it’s not Abrams then it ought to be someone *else* who’s never had a thing to do with “Star Trek” in the past.

One more stylistic re-run is a lousy way to revive a franchise, no matter how much some folks like macaroni and cheese.

33. Picardsucks - February 5, 2007

Of course I want JJ or Meyer but how bout Speilberg or Cameron???

34. Chuck Noland - February 5, 2007

Who should direct, if J.J. Abrams doesn’t?

Stuart Baird? No. Whether you admire is work behind the camera or not, that is a book that needs to be shelved.

Nicholas Meyer? No. We need to stop pestering a man, who, despite his successful contributions to the franchise, no longer wants to be involved in it.

Leonard Nimoy? No. Again, despite his successful contributions, here is someone who may be very cautious about jumping into the deep end. He turned down a role in “Star Trek Generations” because he felt that there was no real reason to have his character involved. (Smart move, Mr. Nimoy.) If the whole reason for directing “Trek XI” is as some sort gimmick to put the hard core original series fans in the theater, then I think there may be risk of backfire. I would trust that Mr. Nimoy would consider that if he were even approached. He will be involved as an actor, if the script is good, but I wouldn’t expect to see him in the director’s chair.

Christopher Nolan? No. A fine director. An A-list director. But, the big question here is availability. If “Trek XI” is schedule for a 2008 release, would that still be possible when “The Dark Knight” is also scheduled for 2008?

Bryan Singer? No. Another fine, A-list director. He helped reinvigorate the superhero genre on-screen with “X-Men” and “X2: X-Men United” but, slipped up a bit with a hum-drum “Superman Returns.” He is a “Trek” fan, but he has his next few projects already moving ahead. He, too will be tied up for the next couple years.

Jonathan Frakes? No. I think that he did fine work on “Star Trek: First Contact” and “Star Trek: Insurrection,” but I would say that there is a real need to reinvigorate the franchise as Singer, Nolan and Sam Raimi (who is rumored to be a candidate for the adaptation of “The Hobbit” that New Line is wanting to amke) have done. Even James Bond has gotten new life recently and, after all, isn’t that the reason Abrams was brought in to begin with?

To get an A-list director it seems that someone should have been seeking them out before this point. They don’t just sit around waiting for a knock on the door after all.

To get a relatively unknown director would mean that they (Paramount and Abrams) would have to have complete faith in that person. In turn, that person would have to be ready for the scrutiny of the 40 years that has come before them.

All this leads me to believe that the director of “Trek XI” will be Abrams. Good or bad, I don’t know, for I have not seen anything that he has been involved in.

35. StillKirok - February 5, 2007

Again, Nimoy is YOUNGER than Clint Eastwood, who is currently nominated for Best Director. Nimoy understands Trek as well as anyone, and would insist on making that story good. Story over explosions.

I expect Abrams will direct, but I would be thrilled if Nimoy took the gig.

36. ObiWanCon - February 5, 2007

Let’s come back to the real world first up Bryan Singer won’t have the time as he’s about to start development of the next Superman movie so he can’t do it (which is a shame) Chris Nolan is a couple of weeks away from shooting on The Dark Knight so he can’t do it, Nimoy is retired and has said that he doesn’t want to direct again. I think JJ Abrams should direct it’s his baby he should follow through with directing it other then him I can’t think of anyone other then the people who have been mentioned.

37. Jim J - February 5, 2007

Gore Verbinski?? lol

38. SithMenace - February 5, 2007

I’m a huge Spielberg fan, and while it would be interesting to see a Spielberg or Cameron take on Trek, I just don’t think their style fits, it wouldn’t feel like Star Trek. I would rather see Spielberg do a Bond movie with Daniel Craig and Cameron do Alien 5.

In fact, with Tom Cruise as the head of UA now, the possiblity of Spielberg doing Bond 23 is very good, since he’ll be done with Indiana Jones 4 by then. And after Munich I have no doubt that he could fit with the new Bond style.

As far as directors for Trek XI, there really isn’t anyone I could think of that I want to see do it other than Abrams. If I had to see a JJ Abrams produced, somebody else directed Star Trek movie, I would be interested to see what Robert Zemeckis would do with it, especially the Kirk/Spock/McCoy relationship. Laugh if you must, but IMO Zemeckis has the style to fit Trek, understands character dynamics and is always pushing forward technologically. Plus he always seems to find the right balance of drama and humor and knows how to pace a film.

39. Niner - February 5, 2007

I’m not too thrilled with Abrams as a director- I’m pretty psyched that he’s producing and writing, but the only movie he’s directed is MI:III, and that’s not particularly promising from a Trek perspective. Also, I think he’s got way too many oars in the water to devote a full year of his life to a single movie, which is what being a director requires.

I agree with those who say that it shouldn’t be someone who’s directed Trek before. LeVar Burton or Roxanne Dawson would be kind of cool, but I think what the movie needs is a new sensibility, and the old hands might be locked into the old one.

I expect that the director will be a relative unknown. It’s more important that he or she be able to handle story and actors than action or FX.

40. Viking - February 5, 2007

My dark horse: John Carpenter. Give it the ol’ ‘Escape From New York’ or ‘Assault On Precinct 13′ treatment.

41. SithMenace - February 5, 2007

Not really on topic but kind of funny ~ Star Trek meets Monty Python…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc

42. Xai - February 5, 2007

#11
Fix Generations?! How about a good story and we don’t worry about “fixing” anything?

43. By-Tor - February 5, 2007

Definitely not Frakes. Let’s not cheap out, here. Should be an A-list-esque (or even B-list-esque) director.

As much as I enjoyed the Meyer films, I don’t want Meyer. We need a fresh approach. Same with Nimoy.

And please, please, please do not hire someone who is a “fan.” That’s just death.

Get a solid, talented director. Someone with experience; someone who’s done more than crap. Action experience is useful, but that doesn’t mean we want McG or anything like that. *shudder*

Hey, here’s a thought…didn’t Joss Whedon just leave the Wonder Woman project? That might be interesting…

44. Jim J - February 5, 2007

Joss left Wonder Woman? When? Is that movie history now? I hope not, even though I’lll have a heck of a time not having Lynda Carter BE Wonder Woman. But, Whedon is an intriguing choice, just not sure if for all the right reasons.

45. Herbert Eyes Wide Open - February 5, 2007

#38. SithMenace

Great friggin’ idea, Sithy! Really great… heads up ball, Sithy. Can I call ya’ Sithy?

Totally forgot about ol’ Bob Zemeckis… There’s a guy… terrific writer… great producing sensibilities… and man, can he ever direct. Comedy… Drama… Thriller… The guys does it all and usually in the most superb fashion.

And if it turns out to be a time travel story… Old Kirk meets Young Kirk… the guy’s got that ground covered from here to Virginia City circa 1885.

You definitely win the prize for most inspired choice of director!

46. Michael Appleton - February 5, 2007

You’ve got to be very careful when reinventing a franchise. The choice of Director is critical when it comes to the pace, tone and flavour of a film. For example, as good as Casino Royale was in terms of Craig as Bond and the cinematography being well presented, the pacing and rhythm of it was like watching wet paint dry. Martin Campbell, a former Bond director, should NOT have been chosen to head up this rebooting of Bond. As to Star Trek, that’s why Nimoy should not be in the running. He’s prone to flat direction and, my GAWD, he came up with the whaleshit storyline! Puhlease!! Sometimes actors should stick to just that, ACTING.
Abrams would be preferred with his snappy and flashy editing style. As much as I detest Tom Cruise (the man can NOT act!), MI:III was actually an enjoyable flick. See what a great director can do; turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse! Just off the cuff, you know who would be a brilliant choice, but he’d never be available? Oliver Stone. The man is the best in the business when it comes to providing an edgy style to even pedestrian material. He’d be the kind of director who would give ST:XI both the weight and tone for drama that it needs and deserves! An impossibility to get him, of course, since he would never be given creative control, which he would insist on, and would be required, for him to do his best work.

47. Doug - February 5, 2007

re 43…

hmmm…, I like the Joss Whedon idea. He understands character, subtelty and humor, as well as an ability to deliver some good action. Not a bad choice. (love his astonishing x-men and firely… never saw buffy tho)

Honestly, I think Abrams will direct it, and I liked his MI III. (the only one I liked btw) I think it was the most true of the 3 films, to the spirit of the original series. That is a big chunk of what I’m looking for!

d

48. Josh T. ( The Undiscovered Wrath of Spock Voyage The Motion Picture) Kirk Esquire' - February 5, 2007

#32

I LIKE macaroni and cheese!

49. Michael Appleton - February 5, 2007

Oh, one more thing. Let’s sign a petition so that Bryan Singer does not direct ST:XI This guy was given the opportunity to helm the new Superman franchise and he absolutely f#%*ed it up! The man couldn’t direct traffic!

50. DEMODE - February 5, 2007

Bryan Singer is a fine director. I am not going to bash him just because Superman Returns didn’t have the character bashing up robots and stuff. It had its flaws, but it was alot better then what we could have got if Burton or McG directed it. I appreciated its emotional moments, and Brandon Routh was a great Superman. I expect the sequel will be a home run.

As for Singer directing Trek…. personally, if TNG ever gets another movie (and I think it might.. call me crazy), I would want Singer to direct that film. He is friend’s with Stewart, and as was mentioned, is a Trek fan. If it where to be the final TNG movie and his schedule was clear, I think he would direct it.

51. Jim J - February 5, 2007

Frankly, the whole Superman thing would have worked a whole lot better if you get rid of the weakest link (Lois Lane actress-forgot her name…what a surprise). With a great Lois, I think it may have been much better to watch. Singer or Whedon both have some great reasons to be chosen and NOT chosen to direct. Hard to say.

52. Mark Lynch - February 5, 2007

#49

Amen to that Brother!!!
Singer to my mind completely wrecked the Superman character…

Please keep him away from Star Trek XI

53. CW - February 5, 2007

As long as we are tossing out Director’s names, why not invoke Michael Bay? I am oh-so-sure he’ll do justice to the TOS cast of characters.

Chris

54. Gp - February 5, 2007

Guys please, rethink your suggestions about having a Trek-alum direct this thing, especially the actors. My goodness. I think Frakes, McFadden and Burton are wonderful people, but let’s think more along the lines of Peter Jackson, Bryan Singer and people with some creative gusto. We’re not talking Clock-stoppers here.

55. Michael Appleton - February 5, 2007

Brandon Routh did a great job playing Superman. The movie Superman Returns stunk up the screen because the Luthor angle has been beaten to death! Why not have Supes go up against Brainiac? Picture the scene on Brainiac’s flying saucer when he shows Superman the shrunken city of Kandor that he stole from Krypton before it exploded. Now he plans to do the same thing with the city of New York on Earth. Now there’s a storyline!

56. StillKirok - February 5, 2007

Again, Nimoy has a track record for producing great Trek. As for Superman, the problems were not Routh’s. He was ok. Lois was terrible (Kate Bosworth), and the plot was just downright stupid.

Lex Luthor’s evil plan was making a giant rock. Why not just use your great intelligence, turn your millions into billions, and get the ultimate revenge on Superman by rebuilding your image as one of the most popular people in Metropolis?

The son of Superman was a dumb idea.

57. SithMenace - February 5, 2007

Thanks Herbert. I’ve always thought Zemeckis is one of the greatest directors of our time, and his style and vision, IMO would fit perfectly with Trek. If Abrams was producing and Zemeckis was directing, Trek XI would be the movie to beat in ’08 (which it probably is anyway).

And yes, you can call me Sithy ; )

58. Darth Ballz - February 5, 2007

When the heads come out of the asses, give me a call!!!

Darth “Where’s my finger?” Ballz

59. SithMenace - February 5, 2007

SR was a waste of 2 1/2 hours. I agree that Routh was great, and I even liked Spacey as Lex, but the rest of the movie was terrible. His powers were inconsistent throughout the movie and Kate Bosworth sucked as Lois. Parker Posey should have been Lois, she would have filled margot Kidder’s shoes effortlessly. Not to mention her age is more accurate than Kate Bosworth.

60. Lao3D - February 5, 2007

# 55: I like that plot line! Maybe in the sequel, if there is one…

Ideal choice for next director: M. Night Shyamalan. Twist ending: Spock to Kirk: “I see dead people…” Kirk then dumps a glass of water on him and is carried off by a giant eagle.

But seriously, if Abrams elects not to direct (and if he doesn’t, what does that say about the quality of script we’ll be getting? Would he pass on a chance to direct a really GREAT script?) I think Joss Whedon would be an excellent choice. “Serenity” was good “space opera, ” which is what I think ST:XI should be.

If he wasn’t involved in “Iron Man,” Jon Favreau would be an interesting choice. He has a light director’s touch and seems to appreciate genre material.

61. Trevok - February 5, 2007

Add my vote to Josh Weldon, would also be happy with Singer or Frakes.
LLAP

62. Herbert Eyes Wide Open - February 5, 2007

#58. Darth Baltz

Jeeez, Darth… Here in New York it’s freezing. I’m happy to keep my head anyplace it’s warm. ;)

63. Mr. Mike - February 5, 2007

I find the idea of Joss Whedon directing quite appealing. Firefly was one of the best Sci-Fi adventures I have ever come across outside of the best Star Trek has to offer and his other series have always been creative and entertaining.

The nostalgic side of me says NIMOY! Though that has the potential to come across as merely a publicity stunt, expecially if it bombs.

I’d also go for Frakes in a second. The man loves Star Trek like very few others and his energy and enthousiasm would surely translate in the picture.

This my first post here and I have to say I love this site and the format, the abilty to discuss and read debates about my favourite show is simply awsome. I check it out every day!

64. Flake - February 5, 2007

I have got the feeling Nimoy will direct it, because I think Abrams has enough on his plate already. I hope he learnt his lesson from the Saavik character and does not do that shit with whoever plays Spock.

Has anyone suggested Shatner yet? ;)

65. DEMODE - February 5, 2007

Kate Bosworth did suck as Lois. They are recasting Katie Holmes character from Batman Begins.. so who knows. Perhaps they could recast Lois. I thought Rachel McAddams would have been a much better Lois.

Back to Trek, I think Nimoy would be a good choice, but I am positive it’s going to end up being Abrams.

66. Michael Appleton - February 5, 2007

#64 “anyone suggested Shatner yet?” I hope that little smiley face means you’re kidding! Shatner makes Ed Wood (Plan 9 From Outer Space) look like Speilberg! You know the difference between God and William Shatner? God doesn’t think He’s William Shatner! Aarghh!

67. Doug - February 5, 2007

re 60

Yes! let’s not forget Quentin Tarantino’s version… Kill Bill (Shatner) and Kill Bill (Shatner) 2 – the sequel. We’d be dealing with some bad ass, big mac chompin’, batleth swingin’ Klingon’s

-d

68. Dom - February 5, 2007

Some of the names bandied around here don’t make sense. Leonard Nimoy is retired and happily taking photographs. Nick Meyer has called time on Trek (Rick Berman and his team, IIRC, went to court to ensure that Meyer, Nimoy and William Shatner could have no involvement with making TNG films post-Generations.)

And Bryan Singer and Joss Whedon are writer-directors. They’d no more take on someone else’s screenplay than Leonard Nimoy would direct Berman’s, Moore’s and Braga’s screenplay for Generations!

IMO, which I admit doesn’t count for much, Singer is overrated: his stuff is rather bland. He gets asses in seats, but I can’t help but find everything he’s done since The Usual Suspects dull.

And Joss has kinda faded away. I adored Buffy and Angel and very much liked Firefly. But Serenity was a Godawful theatrical feature film. Watched on DVD, it’s a great continuation of Firefly, but never felt like more than a very good TV movie to me. Two years of Wonder Woman development hell has taken Joss out of the public eye. He needs to hit a home run with Goners of, hopefully, get another Buffy-verse project under his belt to regain some attention beyond the Whedonites and the Browncoat pseudo-religious cult or he’s headed for Chris Carter territory!

Personally, I hope Abrams takes a pop at Trek.

69. Doug - February 5, 2007

re 59

You are right… Parker Posey would have been a much better Lois. Singer really blew it with Superman… and frankly I thought his 2 X-Men movies were just okay.

Singer does not get my vote… d

70. Dennis Bailey - February 5, 2007

Paramount would be lucky to get Singer. That said, Singer’s not a guy you can bring in as a hired gun to make films to suit the producer’s vision. Abrams may be very much liked at Paramount, but a choice between him and Singer would almost certainly be made in Singer’s favor.

71. Jon - February 5, 2007

They should let Abrams direct it if he’s as great as everybody says.If he wants to see his vision through and bring back Star Trek it should rise or fall under his own direction not a director for hire that they can pin the blame on if it fails.That’s a cop out.C’mon Abrams step up to the plate and show us what you got!

72. Admiraldeem - February 5, 2007

Directors get and take too much of the credit. It all comes down to the script. I think most of these directors mentioned would be less passionate about the job having not had a hand in creatively shaping the screenplay.

That said, Abrams is the right choice here. I would certainly not mind Frakes, as he has done pretty well with really lousy scripts before, at least what he could. And he strikes me as the kind of guy who would bring a tremendous enthusiasm to the job AND be willing to do it without being involved in the writing.

It was mentioned Meyer was not a fan when he took TWOK. But he was aware of it and did his homework so when he started filming, he knew the dynamics of the characters. Baird is a better example of what you get when you just hire someone who technically can do the job but brings no passion to it.

Abrams definitely. If not him, Frakes.

73. Anthony Pascale - February 5, 2007

DB…dont be too sure about that

and Dom is correct. I dont understand this obsession with going with former Trek people. I guess many trekkies hate change…I have even seen suggestions that Sandy Courage should do the music…the man is in a nursing home. Nimoy is not up for directing a film, and Frakes and Meyer are so yesterday from Paramount’s point of view.

People need to get ready for Trek XI having potentially no former Trek people on it. And that isnt neccessarily a bad thing

If Abrams doesnt direct, it is likely that he will pick someone that he has worked with before…possibly Jack Bender (note that is speculation…havent heard that from anyone)

74. Jon -feeling a bit opinionated - February 5, 2007

Just to inject my opinion on Singer.Don’t let him near any more franchises that need to be strong.He emasculated Superman and gutted him of his refreshing other worldy virtue.the actor playing superman was a vacant underwear model.Hiring him as a director for hire on Trek would doom the franchise.I can’t believe they re letting the guy do Superman again.

75. Admiraldeem - February 5, 2007

Hey Anthony–I made the case for Frakes based not on his status as a member of TrekYesterday but on his bringing passion for the project. I know he’s not likely to get the call but he would sure take a mighty cut at it. Don’t chalk that up to obsession – after all Abrams is my first choice.

A quality script and an enthusiastic director would be a blockbuster combination. Of course it could all be sunk by bad casting, cheapo effects, yada…. But a wise man builds his house on the rock, not sand. Without a solid screenplay, the Enterprise will never get out of spacedock.

Abrams knows this. I trust him.

76. Canonista the Cultist - February 5, 2007

My Director Wish List based on above discourse….

In order…

1. James Cameron (by a huge, gaping, wide margin)
2. Nick Meyer (TWOK & TUC, excellent)
3. Peter Jackson (Directed LOR)
4. TIE: JJ Abrams & Jonathan Frakes
(Frakes is the man, MI-3 ok but I don’t like Lost or Felicity)
5. Andrew Niccol (Directed Gattaca)
6. Leonard Nimoy (his heart probably isn’t in it though)
7. Super Wachowski Bros. (Not their scene though…)
8. Steven Soderbergh (Solaris, Sex Lies & Videotape)

Don’t want to see direct the film (in no particular order):

1. The Shat (Sorry Shat, stay in front of the camera)
2. That guy that directed Nemesis!!!!
3. Spielberg (not that he isn’t a good director)
4. George Lucas (NO!!! The Anti-Trek!!!)
5. Brett Ratner, Bryan Singer, Christopher Nolan, etc.
(This is a Star Trek movie, not a bloody comic book…)

77. Canonista the Cultist - February 5, 2007

It’s off base to say that some of us are “obsessed” with Trek’s past.

I could reflexively say that some are ‘obsessed’ with turning Trek into something completely foreign. It might be wrong to make such a sweeping statement, but it is no more sweeping than labeling our appreciation of Meyer or Frakes as “obsession”.

Frakes being a director has nothing to do with Frakes portraying Riker.

78. PD18 - February 5, 2007

I’m sorry, but as a group, you all need to wake up. “I think Spielberg or Cameron should direct…” OK, so the greatest director in the history of film (and the most commercially succesful) and the “king of the world” (highest grossing film of all time and oscar winner) are going to drop their current slate (of films they’ve developed), so that they can direct an eleventh Star Trek movie that is already written and heavily produced by an existing team of writers and producers? Can I please have some of that Romulan Ale you’re all drinking!

Nimoy! Meyer! Frakes! Shatner – they should direct! Ha!! maybe Anthony should call this site “www.whytrekkersarethebuttofsomanyjokes.com”

Seriously people… I don’t mean to be rude, but for a group of fans known for their propensity for A’s in science class and overall nerdiness – you are all stupifyingly ignorant of how films are made.

JJ, Damon, Roberto and Alex, along with the 25 other producers/writers didn’t take the franchise on, so that they can regurgitate the same old trek universe directors. If Paramount is serious about revivng Trek (and they are), do you think they will get all giddy over the prospect of Jonathan Frakes directing the movie? Not a chance. This film needs a known commodity at the helm – remember, this film is not being made for you. If that was the case, you would see Brent Spiner directing a Jonathan Frakes movie, written by Wil Wheaton and Rene Auburjonois – it would be called Star Trek: Schmorgazbord and would center around Adm. Janeway and Capt. Sisko reviving Kirk from the Nexus and taking him to Sulu’s Excelsior which would dock at Deep Space 9, then after being lost in the Delta Quadrant for 5 years, Q would send them back in time to the Enterprise B that would meet the Ent D at Far Point Station. Sounds great!!!

Look, JJ WILL direct this film. If he doesn’t, Paramount will find a viable FEATURE FILM DIRECTOR to step in. Not a Spielberg, or even a Chris Nolan, but someone who would be happy to come in, under JJ’s watch, and be a cog in the wheel – think someone like Irvin Kershner. It will not be anyone who has previously directed a trek film – not even if you have wet dreams about Nicholas Meyer – it ain’t gonna happen.

Sorry for the rant – I love Trek, I love this site – I just hate idiocy, and so sorry to say, but the majority of you are idiots. Not bad people, mind you – just kind of dumb… sorry.

79. CmdrR. - February 5, 2007

I’m not suggesting Tim Burton, per se (although it could be cool) but I’d throw in the ole two cents for anyone willing to genuinely “re-imagine” Roddenberry’s future. If all we’re gonna get are velour shirts and rehashed one liners (“this egg salad is fascinating,” “Scotty, use the transporter and get us out of this dangerous place quickly. hmmm, if only there were a faster way to say that…”) then what’s the point? Hollywood loves to sell us the same stuff over and over. Let’s throw our support behind something that’s actually new. And NO time traveling! Shat-Kirk is dead. He’s a voice-over, or a flash forward, not a major plot line, for christ-sakes!

80. CmdrR. - February 5, 2007

Loved Gattaca, but isn’t that a rather low key resume piece to usher in a Trek director? Likewise, Solaris. I think we want action in this puppy.

81. Admiraldeem - February 5, 2007

I stand by my comments. I never said I thought Frakes would get the call, just that he could do the job well.

As to being idiots, if I may be allowed to post on behalf of my fellow Trekkers who have so enraged PD18: to my mind, what we have here are reasoned assessments based on the facts as one knows them and expressed with respect for other posters’ opinons vs. a tunnel-visioned, name-calling, anger-laced diatribe….. can you do the math or would you like some assistance?

82. Anthony Pascale - February 5, 2007

PD 18…please dont get so personal and start calling the posters names.you can make your point without that.

 

and canonista…maybe I shouldnt have used the word obsessive,

 

RE; Trek old guard and A listers

but I do believe that that some Trek fans can start thinking \’outside the trek box\’. There are a lot of talented creative people out there. That being said I also think Trek fans need to be realistic. The notion that it has to either by a top grade A lister or a C or D lister who happened to work on Trek in the past leaves out a lot of people.

83. ObiWanCon - February 5, 2007

I’m sorry but it’s going to be J.J Abrams or some C-list director because the sad true is people see Star Trek as a joke nothing interesting in it for a top name director like Spielberg, Cameron, Singer, unless it’s fully their project which Star Trek XI is not so there’s no chance of Paramount getting directors like this.

84. Niner - February 5, 2007

PD18: You are so wrong! Obviously you hate Star Trek. Here’s who would do a good job of directing the STXI:

1. Orson Welles – His disjointed narrative style a la Citizen Kane would be a natural for getting old Kirk and young Kirk in the same movie. Plus – he’s got nothing on his plate right now.

2. Steven Spielberg – He knows how to direct aliens, and as he showed in The Duel, he’s good at building dramatic tension.

3. Martin Scorsese – nice fluid camera work, also a plus if Robert DeNiro plays an admiral.

4. James Cameron – sure, he’d be better at the TNG reboot (imagine the liquid metal Data D1000) but he could also build a helluva love story between Janice Rand and Jim Kirk. (“He saved me in every way possible”.)

5. Oliver Stone – if the script deals with the way the Federation secretly undermines the United Earth Space Probe Agency in an illegal war, he’s your man.

6. Stanley Kubrick – also knows sci-fi, and also available!

7. Richard Bay – big noises, big effects, and lousy direction! The man’s got it all- plus he’s directed an Abrams script before in the understated and totally subtle Armageddon. Who says quality counts?

8. Wachowski Bros. – yes, tonight we’re gonna party like it’s 19-99. Also, something about machines taking over.

9. Quentin Tarantino – old Klingon proverb: “substitute violence for plot and no one will notice!” Guaranteed to get a good review from Roger Ebert.

10. George Lucas – won’t even direct his own franchise, but that shouldn’t matter. Good choice if you’re not to into warm characterization and human situations. (Does the JJ in JJ Abrams stand for Jar Jar? If we’re lucky.)

Think big, people!

85. Michael Appleton - February 5, 2007

#79 PD18 “the majority of you are idiots”
Well, all I can say to this eloquent argument is, “Brain and brain! What is brain??” When you hear the bell, move on to geography….DING!

86. Josh - February 5, 2007

I’m confident that Abrams can produce a good film and deliver a good script — I don’t know too much about his work.

But I would really rather he not direct. I disliked the vast majority of direction in MI:III. He would no doubt improve with his second film but I don’t want to bet on it.

I say let the script and the story carry the action, and give it to a director that knows how to hold the moment, someone that can direct with style and really capture the characters and the emotions. The director from Capote stands out at me. That was a heck of a job. Boring movie, heck of a director.

87. Jon - February 5, 2007

I’m with pd18.some people need to be told what they sound like.I can’t believe some of the clueless convoluted typareah on this site.Don’t write dumb stuff and expect people not to be judgemental.

88. Jon - February 5, 2007

Yeah ,um Niner.You illustrate PD’s point.Either that or your just trying to pull people’s leg(s).

89. Buckaroohawk - February 5, 2007

Wow. Let the rampant speculation begin! Actually, this is where Trek fans show the level of their imagination. There are some very interesting choices here, and a few ludicrous ones, but in reality the choices are probably much more limited.

Nicholas Meyer: While it would be great to have him behind the camera again, This won’t happen. He doesn’t need to do it, and he doesn’t want to.

Leonard Nimoy: Having him direct would be a coup, and it would likely thrill many Trek fans. His visual style in TSFS and TVH are perfect for the project, but I fear there would be too much pushing for the new actors to be like the originals from him.

Frakes: I must admit that I really like his directing style; he’s a straightforward, clean director who gives a great deal of freedom to his actors. His action work in First Contact was great, and his filming of the sweeping landscapes in Insurrection are simply breathtaking. I’ve also seen Clockstoppers and Thunderbirds, and while neither of them were good films, the fault certainly doesn’t lie with Frakes’ direction. I’d actually like to see him direct another Trek film, but Paramount would never let it happen.

Spielberg, Singer, Cameron, et al. These are not guys that you hire to direct a film. They initiate, develop, and execute their own projects from start to finish. They might enjoy the chance to do Trek, but it’s not going to happen.

Zemekis: Entrenched at Universal, and they’ll never let him go to Paramount. An intriguing choice, though he’d probably demand that Christopher Lloyd play McCoy ;-)

Michael Bay: No. Just no. He’s a serviceable action director, but he’s purely style over substance. He wouldn’t know what to do with real characters and honest emotional involvement.

JJ Abrams will most likely decide to direct Trek XI himself, or he’ll hire one of the better directors he used on Alias. Ken Olin (who was also an Alias producer) turned in some great episodes of the show. Or he’ll promote Dan Mindel, his Director of Photography on MI:3, to director for this project.

90. Michael Appleton - February 5, 2007

Hey Buckaroo, good overview, but what would be your personal choice for director? If you could snap your fingers and pick anyone you want, who would make the cut? I respect your opinion and would like to know…

91. Canonista the Cultist - February 6, 2007

For the record, some of us here are “wage slaves” and don’t pretend to be Hollywood insiders. I don’t know what directors are tied to what studios. Frankly, as a fan, I don’t really care about any of that. I just know what films I like and who directed them.

In my list, I did omit directors that I like but knew wouldn’t be appropriate for a Trek film. Oliver Stone is one of them. Michael Mann is a favorite of mine, but I somehow doubt that Deniro or Pacino would make a good Kirk. (that’s a mild joke for those of you without a sense of humor).

I included the director of Gattaca and Sodherberg because they were very successful in making the future world (1) realistic and (2) imparting upon the audience a tangible sense of mood all the way through the film. I believe that the Director is the one that has most control over those things, secondarily the actors, but not necessarily the scriptwriters.

92. John N. - February 6, 2007

#79 – PD18

While I don’t condone the severity in which you presented your argument, I will second the notion that those shouting out names like “Nimoy! Shatner! Meyer!” are certainly not thinking, as Anthony put it, “outside the box”.

Nor do I think that some of the A-lister choices are realistic, but people ARE allowed to dream, so long as they are cognizant that they are, in fact, dreaming.

Personally, I wouldn’t want any former Trek director attached. There are PLENTY of talented directors out there that don’t have any Trek on their resumes. How about some of the following options:

– Alfonso Cuarón (Children of Men, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban)

– Jean-Pierre Jeunet (A Very Long Engagement, Amélie)

– Sam Mendes (Jarhead, Road to Perdition, American Beauty)

93. The Sleeper Agent!!! - February 6, 2007

Not to sound like some kind of French basher, but can anyone name me a good action-adventure flick directed by someone French? I always find their approach to the genre a little off. I’m thinking Fifth Element and Alien Resurrection, here. They tend to put a lot more emphasis on quirky style and whimsical atmosphere than actually making some kind of coherent sense, IMO.

94. John N. - February 6, 2007

#93 – The Sleeper Agent!!!

I can definitely see your point about quirkiness, though I actually enjoyed Jean-Pierre Jeunet’s “Alien: Resurrection” more than American David Fincher’s “Alien3″.

Also, while you may have found Luc Besson’s “The Fifth Element” not to your liking, I remember his “The Professional” being pretty intense. It HAS been a while since I’ve seen it though…

I’d still take my chances on these two over Nimoy, Shatner, or Meyers though. Of my three contributions to the discussion, Alfonso Cuarón is still my favourite.

95. PD18 - February 6, 2007

Well, as I said in my post yesterday – sorry. I certainly don’t mean to demean anyone, and contrary to one posters opinion – I don’t hate Trek, I LOVE Trek, that’s why I’m here. My desire is to see a great, new trek franchise rise from the ashes.

The tone in which I wrote my previous post was certainly sharp, but that’s because I constantly hear the exact same things from so many tekkies/trekkers. The reality is, as Anthony will atest – is that this new trek film is not being made for the hardcore Trek fan. This film must be accepted by the main stream cinema goer in order to ensure future installments of Trek adventures (movies as well as TV series). Star Trek needs a bold, new approach in order to succeed. Rehashing contrived plot points from 15 year old movies that weren’t successful is not a formula for greatness – JJ Abrams knows this – he is anything if not an astute story teller.

Therefore, everyone needs to let go of the “Kirk death” thing and the notion that the TNG crew deserve another film. Not going to happen. Star Trek IS Kirk/Spock/McCoy. Paramount knows this, Abrams knows this, and so I say this – Don’t incumber the new creative team with the baggage of reviving Kirk from the Nexxus. Don’t put Shatner and Nimoy in the film – this will only hinder any chance of the audience accepting the actors in their roles.

As far as the director goes – remember, Abrams comes from the world of TV. The heirarchy of TV is quite different from that of feature films. In TV, the producers are essentially the creative force behind the show, with directors essentially there to fulfill the technical aspect of actually filming the program. In film, obviously, the director has the crteative control, with the producers job being to give the director the tools that they need to complete their vision. If JJ decides not to direct, the most likely scenario would see someone come in to direct but JJ would still have ultimate creative control, just like in TV. George Lucas did the same thing on Empire and Return of the Jedi. Of course, the irony here being that Lucas’ first choice to direct Jedi was – Steven Spielberg!

Anyway, I hope you all aren’t too sore on a guy who just wants to see Star Trek succeed again!

96. John N. - February 6, 2007

#95 – PD18

Nice follow up…

I agree with all of the sentiments of that post, though I don’t presume to know what sort of relationship JJ would have as a producer with another director. I would certainly HOPE that it would evolve as you have predicted.

97. SithMenace - February 6, 2007

95. PD-18 – Isn’t that story about Spielberg and Return of the Jedi heartbreaking? Because of Hollywood politics we were jipped out of possibly the greatest movie of all time.

But that’s not all, it happened again 16 years later. When Lucas started going ahead with the prequels, he was going to only direct The Phantom Menace, then hire a director for the last two. When he approached Spielberg about directing one of the movies, it was Spielberg who convinced him that he should get back in the director’s chair and direct all three.

So twice we came very close to a Steven Spielberg directed Star Wars movie, and now we can only wonder what might have been.

Anyway, as far as Trek XI goes, I stand by Abrams. I think he will make an incredible movie.

98. The Sleeper Agent!!! - February 6, 2007

94 – I really like Cuaron. He’s proven adept at handling big franchise material too, with Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

And yes, Alien3 was horrible. I’ve never reaaly forgiven Fincher for that mess, even though I know he came in at the last minute into an already messed up situation.

95 – I wholeheartedly agree with you.

99. Matt Wright - February 7, 2007

PD18 just want to say I agree with you, what you say makes a lot of sense.

100. JamesValentine1979 - February 7, 2007

Personally I think David Yates, the director of ‘Order of the Phoenix’ and the spectacularly good BBC conspiracy thriller ‘State of Play’ would be a great choice if Abrams doesn’t direct. As PD18 pointed out, the director will already have many decisions made for him/her and Yates comes from the world of TV where the director isn’t God; rather it’s the director’s job to take an existing story and bring it to life. It’s his remarkable skill at working the drama (yes, ‘Star Trek’ is a drama) in an existing script that has made David Yates one of the most respected and successful directors working in British TV, and probably what got him the gig on ‘Harry Potter’.

101. Chuck Noland - February 7, 2007

Does anyone consider the time table here?

If Trek XI is to be released in 2008 (summer or winter), a director needs to be found right away. The script is pretty much done now and Abrams is really excited about it, but a director will need to be secured to begin filming later this year, if Abrams chooses not to do it.

All kinds of names are being thrown out but two things need to be considered (and one of them is NOT whether or not the fans approve):

1) Is this director even available?
2) Is this director even interested?

A lot of the names mentioned above can be eliminated because the answer to the first question is “NO”.

I agree that there are some directors I would rather not see take the helm on the next Trek film, but it needs to be taken into account that those that answer “YES” to the first question may answer “NO” to the second.

The possiblity that if Abrams doesn’t direct Trek XI, that the director is not only from outside the Trek world, but is relatively unknown, is getting greater with each passing week.

102. Buckaroohawk - February 7, 2007

Michael Appleton (#90): If I could snap my fingers and make it happen, who would I choose to direct Trek XI?

This may sound ridiculous…It seems ridiculous to me as I write it…but honest to God I would love to see Sam Raimi direct a Star Trek film.

His pedigree is horror films, but he showed a solid knack for suspense in “the Gift” and “A Simple Plan.” Of course, he’s best known now as the director of the “Spider-Man” films. In those films, he single-handedly elevated the comic book film into the realm of drama because of his approach to the material. Peter Parker, Aunt May, Mary Jane, and the other characters are so real and alive in those movies because Raimi insists on the films being about more than just superhero daring-do. Raimi takes the time to develop the strong connections between these characters and gives them real issues to deal with. He really is a fantastic dramatic director, and he has the perfect style for a Trek film set during the Original Series era.

I really do think he’d be a great Trek director, and we’d get the added bonus of Bruce Campbell and Ted Raimi in supporting or cameo roles. That’s fanboy heaven, baby!

103. Michael Appleton - February 9, 2007

#102 Buckaroohawk, “would love to see Sam Raimi direct a Star Trek film”.
Brilliant! I never made the connection or correlation of Raimi’s work on the Spiderman films and what he could bring to Trek! I grew up reading the Spiderman comics and pined for a movie depicting the exploits of the webslinger. Thank God it took so long to get around to producing the first Spidey flick! CGI finally caught up with a SUPREME talent waiting in the wings…Raimi balanced it perfectly! What he could bring to Star Trek is superb beyond notion. Sign him up now!
Hey Buckaroo, I tip my hat to you, sir…someone tell Abrams if he’s too busy, there’s a talented substitute waiting in the wings that he can delegate the task to…

104. Buckaroohawk - February 9, 2007

Thank you, Michael. I appreciate it. Nice to know I’m not completely crazy.

…unless we’re both crazy.

Uh oh.

105. Michael Appleton - February 11, 2007

We may be crazy, but hey, compared to some of the others posting here…well, let’s just say…when they read a stop sign, their lips move!
They’re about as sharp as a pound of wet leather, they….oh, you get the idea…

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