Comments on: Images From Amok Time Remastered – CBS Look to TAS and STIII For Inspiration

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Serenity » Blog Archive » Trek Remastered: Amok Time — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:40:18 +0000

[...] New matte shot on Vulcan! [...]

By: Xai

Xai — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:03:56 +0000

#137 Bird
the humour wasn’t seen likely because of the big “nacelle” argument in here 2 months or more ago.

By: BlackBirdCD

BlackBirdCD — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:50:38 +0000

Optimus. . . in post 4. . .

Saavik -
“Humor, it is a difficult subject. It is not logical.”

Kirk –
“We learn by doing”

By: Buckaroohawk

Buckaroohawk — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:53:40 +0000

yo,

That link was quite illuminating. I never knew there had been so many allusions to TAS in later Trek series. It looks like I’ll have to re-think my opinion of TAS canon. Thanks for posting that link.

Dom,

It would be kind of cool to see Arex, or at least someone of his race, in the new Trek film. As for M’Ress, I’ll give a “thumbs up” to that! I had such a crush on her when I was a kid. I remember a lot of fan speculation when Star Trek V was released that the “cat dancer” at the bar on Nimbus III was likely a member of the same race as M’Ress even though that was never stated in the film itself. An interesting supposition, made more so by the increasing opinion that TAS may be canon after all.

This subject deserves more scrutiny on my part. Time to do some research.

By: Daystrom Lives

Daystrom Lives — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:15:49 +0000

I think it’s quite a leap to make from seeing a fuzzy city in the background of a matte painting to deciding whether or not the Animated Series is canon. Even though that city is in those shots, it doesn’t necessarily follow that Arex and MRess are now an official part of the crew.

By: Dom

Dom — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:21:45 +0000

Actually, these days, TAS is pretty much regarded as part of Trek history. Read the info in the booklet that accompanies the DVD, which, incidentally, is packaged in a similar style to the love action releases.

Gene Roddenberry never said DS9, Voyager and Enterprise were canon, so does that make them disposable?

People should just get a life and enjoy TAS for what it is: a fun extra season of Star Trek.

BTW, anyone else hope we get to see Arex and M’Ress in the new movie? ;)

By: yo

yo — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:14:38 +0000

Buck:

Just for fun, check our the “Background” section of this page:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/TAS#Background

Interesting summary of the TAS legacy in subsequent productions.

By: Lt. Arex

Lt. Arex — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:20:02 +0000

well said Buck

By: Buckaroohawk

Buckaroohawk — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 03:51:44 +0000

I can’t quite figure out this argument over TAS being canon. Gene Roddenberry said he didn’t consider it canon. Paramount doesn’t either. A few references to certain aspects of Spock’s history from the TAS episode “Yesteryear” made their way into live-action Trek history, but nothing that had to do with the actual plot of that episode ever did. No other character in any version of Trek has ever mentioned anything from TAS as actually happening.

That means it IS NOT canon. So, how can a matte shot by CBS Digital of a Vulcan city that resembles a city shown on TAS suddenly make that whole series canon? Answer: It doesn’t. CBS Digital thought it would be fun to reference the image, so they did. It is, at best, an affectionate nod to TAS, not an endorsement that it should now be considered canon.

Get some perspective, people. Don’t read so much into this stuff. FX work has always been full of little “inside jokes.” This is just another example of one. Chill out, for goodness sake.

That being said, I have a soft spot in my heart for TAS, even though it isn’t canon. Personally, I’d love to see them take the dialog from those shows and completely re-do the series with CGI; FX, the sets, the characters, everything. I think it would be a hoot to see TAS updated that way.

MichaelJohn (#118): Its respect for it’s own canon is one of the neatest things about Star Trek. It grounds the various shows in a more adherent “reality.” The timeline gives us, as fans, something to follow. Plot A leads to Plot B, characters can reference events we’ve seen before. It provides a history for the characters to inhabit and be a part of. Is it really important in the grand scheme of things? No, it isn’t, but it’s pretty darn cool just the same.

By: Lt. Arex

Lt. Arex — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:45:01 +0000

#115 Josh
Unbind your panties, little one.
You also go out of your way to act indignant. No one said that opinions were not welcome. Or critics.
Good critics generally stay on topic and know when they are repeating themselves. I will grant that these threads all “wander’ a bit, but anyone that regularly posts or even reads the posts knows Josh hates all non-TOS… and that’s your choice. But when repeated in every creative way in nearly every thread….well, I hope you get the idea. Repetition works in advertising, but repeating and repeating your hatreds in “conversation” you become someone who people no longer care to read. You find this to be true? I have seen your other posts…you are knowledgeable without the nearly constant flow of BS.
The nacelle “fiasco” did go too far. But I recall the group came together and generally agreed that enough was enough. Perhaps when the next “bash TNG, DS9 etc” story comes along you can drag your popgun out again and fire away.

Oh, and btw… the Nazi name-calling thing… very creative. I’ll write that one down. And were you calling the whole room “cattle”…or did you care to name them one by one?

And now ON topic…

I like the fact that the TOS series is being remastered with some touches from other Trek elements. There was room for improvement and sprucing backgrounds up with ST III and even TAS scenes not only helps TOS but smoothes continuity from one end of the long Trek universe to another. Much like the mention in “Babel” about Spock’s pet shelat… and then seeing it in “Yesteryear”. These little additions from series to series are cool little “easter eggs” for fans and expand the ST universe a tad bit more… and more is enjoyable.