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	<title>Comments on: Shatner Talks About The Death Of Kirk</title>
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		<title>By: Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all Trek shows and have seen every single episode of every series. (Well ok, the DS-9 episode with Julian Bashir as a holodeck spy I have still not yet seen.) 

Anyway, my comments about &quot;Enterprise&quot; were not really meant to bash all non TOS. I liked enterprise as a whole, but LOVED the Coto episodes. Whereas it seems many people did not like Enterprise much at all until the end. But regardless of my likes, Enterprise WAS canceled for SOME reason.

So let&#039;s put away the phasers, take down the &quot;Bashing&quot; signs, and argue over IMPORTANT things now, like &quot;who will play Kirk?&quot; now that the Star Trek XI has the green light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all Trek shows and have seen every single episode of every series. (Well ok, the DS-9 episode with Julian Bashir as a holodeck spy I have still not yet seen.) </p>
<p>Anyway, my comments about &#8220;Enterprise&#8221; were not really meant to bash all non TOS. I liked enterprise as a whole, but LOVED the Coto episodes. Whereas it seems many people did not like Enterprise much at all until the end. But regardless of my likes, Enterprise WAS canceled for SOME reason.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s put away the phasers, take down the &#8220;Bashing&#8221; signs, and argue over IMPORTANT things now, like &#8220;who will play Kirk?&#8221; now that the Star Trek XI has the green light!</p>
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		<title>By: Orbitalic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orbitalic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep looking for the &quot;bash all non TOS Trek&quot; Sign.... someone point out to me where it is and why I shouldn&#039;t go on the &quot;offensive&quot; and off subject to start bashing TOS? &quot;Fair&quot; is fair...

Perhaps you, R. April ? (#78)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep looking for the &#8220;bash all non TOS Trek&#8221; Sign&#8230;. someone point out to me where it is and why I shouldn&#8217;t go on the &#8220;offensive&#8221; and off subject to start bashing TOS? &#8220;Fair&#8221; is fair&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps you, R. April ? (#78)</p>
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		<title>By: Lets hate shat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lets hate shat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 Canada is a part of America so technically Shatner was already American</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 Canada is a part of America so technically Shatner was already American</p>
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		<title>By: Robert April</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/02/16/shatner-talks-about-the-death-of-kirk/comment-page-2/#comment-35482</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Shatner has a far stronger connection to Kirk in the minds of fans than, say Alec Guinness has to Obi-Wan. 

For a new actor to do well as Kirk they MIGHT not need Shatner to do a cameo, but certainly if done well it could really help. 

(Or it could suck, yeah I know)

If the new actor is excellent he will be convincing REGARDLESS of a Shatner appearance.  Given so many people like Shatner these days why not just keep him in? A good script is a good script and if a GREAT script comes along that calls for both a younger and older Kirk, who better to play the older Kirk then ol&#039; Bill &quot;The Shatman&quot; himself?


I do wish to see a new actor play a young Kirk, but one who could surpass Shatner in that role. And as long as Shatner is still alive that ain&#039;t gonna happen. They may do the role justice and bring their own spin to it, but unless they are VERY lucky they will not surpass what Shatner has done. Not because Shatners acting is so great (or poor for that matter) but because he has become, along with his Kirk alter ego, a true American icon. (Not bad for a Canadian, eh?)

Now if you were being hired as an actor you would probably try to focus on doing your job to the best of your abilities, as any pro would. But there would be no way to escape a comparison to Shatner.

For better or worse it would generate a TON of publicity just to recast the role.  With Shatner in the movie as an older version of Kirk you could bridge the generations and expand your target market. Once again, the script would have to dictate this. No last minute rewrites to add Shatner and Nimoy in &quot;just because.&quot;

It would be great to do a TOTAL re-imagining of TREK and, hey why not have an R rated film while were at it and tackle some adult themes?

Paramount does not have the balls to give a total face lift to their cash cow however, so the best we can hope for is a slightly fresh take on a (hopefully) maturing franchise.

And regardless of how much I wish to see new actors in those old roles (I am starting to think Matt Damon might actually make a pretty good farm boy from Iowa) I still want to see Shatner one last time. 

I suspect a lot of ticket buyers feel the same.

-RA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Shatner has a far stronger connection to Kirk in the minds of fans than, say Alec Guinness has to Obi-Wan. </p>
<p>For a new actor to do well as Kirk they MIGHT not need Shatner to do a cameo, but certainly if done well it could really help. </p>
<p>(Or it could suck, yeah I know)</p>
<p>If the new actor is excellent he will be convincing REGARDLESS of a Shatner appearance.  Given so many people like Shatner these days why not just keep him in? A good script is a good script and if a GREAT script comes along that calls for both a younger and older Kirk, who better to play the older Kirk then ol&#8217; Bill &#8220;The Shatman&#8221; himself?</p>
<p>I do wish to see a new actor play a young Kirk, but one who could surpass Shatner in that role. And as long as Shatner is still alive that ain&#8217;t gonna happen. They may do the role justice and bring their own spin to it, but unless they are VERY lucky they will not surpass what Shatner has done. Not because Shatners acting is so great (or poor for that matter) but because he has become, along with his Kirk alter ego, a true American icon. (Not bad for a Canadian, eh?)</p>
<p>Now if you were being hired as an actor you would probably try to focus on doing your job to the best of your abilities, as any pro would. But there would be no way to escape a comparison to Shatner.</p>
<p>For better or worse it would generate a TON of publicity just to recast the role.  With Shatner in the movie as an older version of Kirk you could bridge the generations and expand your target market. Once again, the script would have to dictate this. No last minute rewrites to add Shatner and Nimoy in &#8220;just because.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be great to do a TOTAL re-imagining of TREK and, hey why not have an R rated film while were at it and tackle some adult themes?</p>
<p>Paramount does not have the balls to give a total face lift to their cash cow however, so the best we can hope for is a slightly fresh take on a (hopefully) maturing franchise.</p>
<p>And regardless of how much I wish to see new actors in those old roles (I am starting to think Matt Damon might actually make a pretty good farm boy from Iowa) I still want to see Shatner one last time. </p>
<p>I suspect a lot of ticket buyers feel the same.</p>
<p>-RA</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#78.You need to separate your ACTORS from the CHARACTORS.New actors need to play Kirk,Spock etc.Kirk&#039;s dead.In one way Star Trek is a bit like Star Wars here.You found out the destiny of the characters and now we re all going to go back again to their earlier years.Get over Shatner and Nimoy etc. and Trek will live again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#78.You need to separate your ACTORS from the CHARACTORS.New actors need to play Kirk,Spock etc.Kirk&#8217;s dead.In one way Star Trek is a bit like Star Wars here.You found out the destiny of the characters and now we re all going to go back again to their earlier years.Get over Shatner and Nimoy etc. and Trek will live again.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which to be fair, was finally getting good with Coto&#039;s work. But this was only AFTER he returned to the TOS roots of the show! 

Go ahead and have all the old actors back with no newcomers. That will surely fail.

Go ahead and try all NEW actors (again.) THAT will fail again too.

Have a mild reboot similar to Battlestar Galactica but with no major character changes-just character explorations. 

Answer some questions along the way.
Was Kirk always a ladies man even back home on the farm in Riverside?
What was it like for Spock to be only part human when he joined Starfleet against his Father&#039;s wishes? 
What happens to Captain Pike (and Robert April too ;-) when Kirk takes command...

How did Kirk become the greatest Starship captain EVER??????

Answer these questions. Do it with all new actors playing younger versions of the characters that we love. Use Shatner and Nimoy to connect it to TOS without blindly following canon. Add to that a character driven script and make sure there is a REASON to feature Shatner and Nimoy. Book ends would be lame.

(BTW, Shatner is waaaaaaaaay better now as an actor then he EVER was back in the day! Yes he is old. Yes he would need a larger Starfleet uniform then he did back in 1960&#039;s-but he is so darn funny, he makes you laugh! Check out his salute to George Lucas on YOUTUBE. He stole the show!

Any way, a movie like this would have the best of both worlds. And would get MY $10 at the box office.

-RA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which to be fair, was finally getting good with Coto&#8217;s work. But this was only AFTER he returned to the TOS roots of the show! </p>
<p>Go ahead and have all the old actors back with no newcomers. That will surely fail.</p>
<p>Go ahead and try all NEW actors (again.) THAT will fail again too.</p>
<p>Have a mild reboot similar to Battlestar Galactica but with no major character changes-just character explorations. </p>
<p>Answer some questions along the way.<br />
Was Kirk always a ladies man even back home on the farm in Riverside?<br />
What was it like for Spock to be only part human when he joined Starfleet against his Father&#8217;s wishes?<br />
What happens to Captain Pike (and Robert April too ;-) when Kirk takes command&#8230;</p>
<p>How did Kirk become the greatest Starship captain EVER??????</p>
<p>Answer these questions. Do it with all new actors playing younger versions of the characters that we love. Use Shatner and Nimoy to connect it to TOS without blindly following canon. Add to that a character driven script and make sure there is a REASON to feature Shatner and Nimoy. Book ends would be lame.</p>
<p>(BTW, Shatner is waaaaaaaaay better now as an actor then he EVER was back in the day! Yes he is old. Yes he would need a larger Starfleet uniform then he did back in 1960&#8217;s-but he is so darn funny, he makes you laugh! Check out his salute to George Lucas on YOUTUBE. He stole the show!</p>
<p>Any way, a movie like this would have the best of both worlds. And would get MY $10 at the box office.</p>
<p>-RA</p>
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		<title>By: Robert April</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/02/16/shatner-talks-about-the-death-of-kirk/comment-page-2/#comment-35323</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>75. Jon - February 19, 2007

   &quot; For star Trek to be sucessful it needs to be TOTALLY NEW and cut loose from all that old baggage.Get into the CHARACTERS not the ACTORS.&quot;
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Great Idea! All new unknown actors, bold new adventures, new ship, new time period. This might just work!!!!!!


...


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Oh wait. That was the last series,  called &quot;Enterprise.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>75. Jon &#8211; February 19, 2007</p>
<p>   &#8221; For star Trek to be sucessful it needs to be TOTALLY NEW and cut loose from all that old baggage.Get into the CHARACTERS not the ACTORS.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Great Idea! All new unknown actors, bold new adventures, new ship, new time period. This might just work!!!!!!</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh wait. That was the last series,  called &#8220;Enterprise.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stanky McFibberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanky McFibberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Shatner and Nimoy in Star Trek XI.
No recasting the roles of Kirk and Spock in Star Trek XI.
No serial.
No &#039;modern sensibility&#039; Star Trek.

The whole idea does not appeal to me, in case you can&#039;t tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Shatner and Nimoy in Star Trek XI.<br />
No recasting the roles of Kirk and Spock in Star Trek XI.<br />
No serial.<br />
No &#8216;modern sensibility&#8217; Star Trek.</p>
<p>The whole idea does not appeal to me, in case you can&#8217;t tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Jon.
It&#039;s NOT 
Star Trek: Reviving Shatner&#039;s Checkbook
after all...

Let&#039;s get on with the story...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Jon.<br />
It&#8217;s NOT<br />
Star Trek: Reviving Shatner&#8217;s Checkbook<br />
after all&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get on with the story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For star Trek to be sucessful it needs to be TOTALLY NEW and cut loose from all that old baggage.Get into the CHARACTERS not the ACTORS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For star Trek to be sucessful it needs to be TOTALLY NEW and cut loose from all that old baggage.Get into the CHARACTERS not the ACTORS.</p>
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