this is not a political forum it is a Star Trek site. Take these political debates outside.

I am not going to close this thread, but if you feel you must engage in the above political debate then write it on a piece of paper or something, but dont do it here.

#20, I agree. I’ve been to the Black Hills several times and there’s no room on Rushmore on that side and they should never consider changing the way it is now. Pick another mountain… any mountain.

I don’t want Wedon… I’m not fond of his work. Serenity did little for me.

X

No, I don’t believe in cencorship, but I think your post was highly imflammatory and totally inappropriate. It went way beyond the few comments left by others regarding Lincoln being a racist.

I’m sure you knew someone would get offended by your highly controversial remarks, and you got the reaction you were probably expecting. Sorry but Trekmovie.com is not “your personal forum” to debate and espouse your fringe political views and radical opinions regarding US history and current political events.

Yes, you are definately entitled to your opinions no matter how pathetic I may find them. But I’m also entitled to my opinions, and I stand by my earlier post and call your hateful and offensive remarks- BILGE!

Yes and yes.

Just because you list a few controversial book titles, by a group of discredited authors

Pretty funny. And dishonest. What “group of discredited authors” are you referring to? I listed two books, which you have not read, by ONE author, who has not been discredited by anyone. You are as dishonest as Abe.

Hmmm….but maybe you are right, and of course the vast majority of Americans, US historians and political scholarls are dead wrong.

One of the best things one can learn in life is that the majority usually IS wrong. That’s why the Founding Fathers gave us a Republic instead of a Democracy. But I doubt you even know the difference.

Gosh, it really sucks that so many dumb Americans, like myself, have been utterly brainwashed into believing that Lincoln was a great president, and a wise and compassionate leader.

You’re right – that does suck. If you’d like to be unbrainwashed, try reading those books.

Your undeserved sarcasm aside, you strike me as the type that might be convinced by the truth.

How could this happen?

Government schools. Goebbels said if you repeat a lie often enough, it will become fact in the public mind.

It’s obvious to me that you are a radical liberal that has used this site to cleverly bash not only Lincoln, but our current president as well.

No, actually I’m a conservative. And one that recognizes when it comes to politics, you judge by the record, not the rhetoric. One who believes in the rule of law, limited government, separation of powers, keeping your oath of office, etc. Our current President, like Lincoln, is a dictator wannabee. He has trampled the Constitution, the same as Lincoln, usurped powers he did not have, and considers himself above the law. So your knowledge of me is just as limited as your knowledge of Lincoln (and Bush.)

Your post doesn’t belong in a Star Trek forum and kindly keep your political “bilge” to yourself!

Thanks for your opinion. I didn’t bring the subject up, I simply commented on someone else’s comments about Lincoln. Funny that you didn’t mention that their “bilge” should be kept to themselves. Apparently you believe in censorship, and that we are only allowed to have opinions that conform to yours. THAT is the kind of “bilge” that doesn’t belong in this forum, no matter what the subject.

Do you really believe the things you wrote in your post, or am I just a few days late in realizing your jest?

Off all the posts I’ve read here at trekmovie.com, I found yours to be the most incendiary and unbelievable! Do you honestly believe Lincoln was one of the worst presidents in US history?

Just because you list a few controversial book titles, by a group of discredited authors who’s sole aim was to defame and discredit Lincoln in any way possible, am I now suppossed to believe anything you said? Not likely…

Hmmm….but maybe you are right, and of course the vast majority of Americans, US historians and political scholarls are dead wrong. Hogwash!

I guess all the historians that have repeatedly rated Lincoln as one of our greatest, if not the greatest president in our nation’s history are idiots! They are totally ignorant of the real truth, that only you, and others like you seem to posess.

How lucky you are to belong to that “elite” group of wise and englightened individuals, those people that has uncovered the real truth about Lincoln. A truth that has been hidden, supressed and distorted since the end of the Civil War.

Gosh, it really sucks that so many dumb Americans, like myself, have been utterly brainwashed into believing that Lincoln was a great president, and a wise and compassionate leader. How could this happen?

Thank you so much for opening my eyes with your post….I will be forever grateful and in your debt!

But seriously dude..you continue to believe what you want, it’s a free country.

It’s obvious to me that you are a radical liberal that has used this site to cleverly bash not only Lincoln, but our current president as well. Your post doesn’t belong in a Star Trek forum and kindly keep your political “bilge” to yourself!

Mike :o