Comments on: Book Review: ENT – The Good That Men Do

By: eurocop

eurocop — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:05:17 +0000

what is the theme of this book

By: southdakotaboy

southdakotaboy — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:21:27 +0000

Well, I just got into it and I for one am glad they they decided to save Trip and T’Pol. They were one of the most interesting couples in the multiple shows (T/B of Voy come close). I would be perfectly happy if they just wander off with Trip and T’Pol and just let the rest of the crew fade into the background for awhile. It would be interesting to see those two have their own adventures for awhile.

By: Trekkie33years

Trekkie33years — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:59:20 +0000

I am notoriously easy to please when it comes to Star Trek novels. I see them as diversionary fun. I waited months to read the Titan series of novels, having been the only person in America who loved Nemesis and wanting to see more of Riker’s command.
Imagine, then, my horror at the 2 Titan novels I managed to painfully slog through. It was the literary equivalent of passing kidney stones. THEY SUCK. Easily the absolute worst Trek novels of all time (mind you- I’ve read Triangle!)
Now, unlike many, I loved Enterprise and I thought that the novels would be a great place to continue the too-short voyages of Archer and crew. I really thought that Pocket would do the sensible thing and put the Reeves-Stevens on them. Imagine my HORROR to discover it was Mangles and Martin instead. I haven’t read this book- there is NO WAY I ever will. All that I have read by Mangles and Martin not only is poorly costructed as a narrative featuring horrid examples of insipid characters and a disarming disrespect for Trek and its themes (HUMAN adventure- and if you’ve read Titan you know why I put it that way), BUT ALSO is written as if by half literate fourth graders with a D&D monster manual serving as a guide to alien races and a homosexual fetish (didn’t Gene Roddenberry insist that Trek be better than a soap opera????)
I would recommend that every reader of Trek novels go and buy every Mangles and Martin book they can find, dip them in sewage and send them to Pocket. Maybe then we can get some decent authors on Enterprise novels! Grrr!
LOL
Of course, that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.

By: Trip's brother's husband

Trip's brother's husband — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:42:42 +0000

#11: No, I’m sure you read that correctly. This is an Andy Mangels novel, after all.

By: spsblue

spsblue — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:26:15 +0000

#32 I like the image, and although I’d like to see April chrstening the NCC-1701, I don’t think Pike was part of April’s crew at the beginning (according to Best Destiny – my favorate novel)

I’d love to see the new film being April’s crew rather than Kirk’s, with a British actor and attitude. Then the Gold / Blue poster would refer to Robert and Sarah (Command and Medical).

By: Xai (Turning the pages..)

Xai (Turning the pages..) — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:32:39 +0000

#32 Ralph,
I kinda like that.

By: Ralph F

Ralph F — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:25:14 +0000

The finalé of ENTERPRISE should have been Archer christening the NCC-1701, and meeting Robert April and his exec, Christopher Pike. A young Vulcan stands nearby, the camera pans back out of the spacedock window, and the theme we know — in rich, sweeping form — begins to play.

The Human Adventure is Just Beginning.

By: ChuckAmuck

ChuckAmuck — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:06:06 +0000

Wow, that link got cut… here it is again.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/index.php?title=Forum:Change_to_Spock%27s
_birthyear&t=20070221060143

Again, enjoy.

By: ChuckAmuck

ChuckAmuck — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:04:26 +0000

I just bought this book yesterday. I was actually going to purchase “Glass Empires”, but it was more than I had on me at the time. Anyways, I’ve gotten through Chapter Eight in “The Good That Men Do”, and it’s… intriguing, to say the least. For the record, I didn’t read the spoilers above, just the opening paragraph and the last two paragraphs; I really hate spoilers.

Anyways, I find the whole attempt to “rectify” the events seen in TATV very interesting; one of the problems so far is that the events are still unfolding via hologram. In other words, we still don’t know if it’s what REALLY happened (not that it matters much, since it’s non-canon). Were this to be adapted into a TV movie or something (yeah, like that would ever happen), I think the Nog/Jake framing story would have to be taken out entirely to prevent this from becoming just another holodeck interpretation. Anyways, I can’t wait to find out why Starfleet/Section 31/whoever decided to move the events of 2155 up to 2161, to give Shran and Jhamel a daughter, etc.

By the way, to trogketh@16, the events of “Yesteryear” actually take place place in 2239, not 2237. I know the latter year was accepted for a while, but it’s changed since… at least, on Memory Alpha, it has. In addition, Spock’s year of birth is now 2232. Of course, that’s only if you accept TOS as canon (I don’t, personally, but MA does). You can read the whole sad story for yourself at the Reference Desk forum entitled “Change to Spock’s birthyear” on Memory Alpha (http://memory-alpha.org/en/index.php?title=Forum:Change_to_Spock%27s_birthyear&t=20070221060143). Um, if you have any comments about this, it’s probably best to leave them on the forum and not here; we don’t wanna get too off topic. :P Anyways, enjoy. :)

By: Father Rob

Father Rob — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:02:39 +0000

#23 – A few thoughts… Mild-to-Moderate Spoilers for those who have not read it.

A letter from Trip to T’Pol would have been a far better handle than the Jake/Nog framing story. It would also have the ability to hold a great deal of emotional weight as well, making the story that much more personal.

Concerning the history vs. Starfleet records, I wrote in the review: “It seems that recently declassified records contain differing accounts of early Starfleet history.” Page 7 of the book reads, “It concerns events we’ve been told happened in 2161. But the real events actually occured years earlier, in 2155.” The events are different… and the recently declassified records expose that fact.

As for the abject paranoia, well, covering up history and marring the records by over half a decade… seems like abject paranoia to me. Just read the state of mind that Prime Minister Samuels is in later in the novel… and consider who is involved…

Anyway, just my POV.