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By: neo

neo — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:24:10 +0000

i share his philosophies, about reality AND fiction. he used the fiction as a medium for his thoughts on reality. he would not want the show to be laughable, quaint, or used as a nostalgia trip. it’s supposed to make you think.

By: Jim J

Jim J — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:30:28 +0000

Apparently neo is the ghost of Gene Roddenberry.

By: neo

neo — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 04:11:34 +0000

gene roddenberry is what started it all, and he was quick to make every effort possible to eliminate corniness when he continued the series. he was limited by the technology of the times. apperently cbs thinks they’re limited by the technology of 1992. except with a limited number of camera angles. they’re sticking as close as they can to the old instead of boldly going where they’ve never gone before. it shows a lack of understanding of what the show’s about in the first place.

By: Jim J

Jim J — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:59:09 +0000

Funny how Star Trek is what started it all, but now it’s corny? fascinating!

By: neo

neo — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:39:36 +0000

again, limited resources. like explaining the design of a building by drawing it in the sand. you’re just supposed to get the point.

the original music is terrible in every way, even without the bongos and the wailing. it reeks of the 60s, and it’s not dramatic. it’s corny. star trek is not supposed to be corny, it’s supposed to be drama.

By: Jim J

Jim J — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:04:34 +0000

Funny how you can sit and rip on a great composers work (because he uses bongos) but you don’t want any of your work criticized. When you put it out there, it’s gonna get criticized. Welcome to the world of Eden FX, Dochterman, and CBS Digital!!!!! Anyone for nacelle caps or big balls?

By: neo

neo — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:41:40 +0000

also, josh, it’s impossible for anything to be as smooth as in modern cgi, it would require no texture whatsoever, a perfectly flat surface down to the atomic level.

besides, 23rd century vessels have been consistently shown to have an unpolished grey hull material, a dull texture.

By: neo

neo — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:17:12 +0000

by the way, no, star trek is not classic, because classic would mean that it WAS good. star trek IS good.

By: neo

neo — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:04:39 +0000

1: i put in the whoosh to cover the lame swish that was already there. if i had a video, i’d put in the rest

2: of course, it’s an edit, it’s never worked. but that sound came from the exact same place during the opening fanfare as it was in the star trek 5 end credit music i got it from.

3: yes, i don’t have the monologue without the msic behind it. i’m amazed i got as much out as i did.

4: i know, i have no other way of shortening the peice to the light length and getting the ending i want, so there’s a sudden change in key.

i’m not asking for a commentary on my edit itself, i’m operating on very limited resources, a problem that the people in charge of the remastering wouldn’t have if they did it themseves. it’s just to show what i’m going for. in terms of audio for the opening sequence, i want that god-awful old theme gone, with gerry goldsmith music there instead (like roddenberry wanted in the first place), and i want the ship to sound massive, and not make that stupid swish it currently does.

By: Jim J

Jim J — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:57:14 +0000

Ok, I got it to work here at work after all. COMMENTS:
1. Why one Enterprise “whoosh” sound, then no others? Are you taking that away, too?
2. 14 seconds into it, why the extra instrumentation there? Doesn’t sound like it mixes/fits well at all.
3. 24-30 seconds-Sounds like a mess of two themes being played on top of each other.
4. 51 seconds there is an abrupt change in the “motion picture” theme being played. Sounds like poor editing.

General comment-I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I don’t see the point of what you are trying to do and it seems to be haphazardly put together. The music does not mix well…kinda seems like a big stretch just to get rid of bongos. So, why do you hate bongos so much? LOL

I don’t like bells on the motion pisture theme…maybe I oughta create a new motion picture theme……….. ;-)