Comments on: Get Infected With The Immunity Syndrome Trailer http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/ the source for Star Trek news and information Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:06:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: testing smiley face...testing,testing http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-72393 testing smiley face...testing,testing Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:58:15 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-72393 :) :)

]]> By: Matt Wright http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-70775 Matt Wright Fri, 06 Apr 2007 05:07:30 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-70775 Yeah I really don't know, the color saturation seems pretty consistent, except in the occasional segment where the film clearly hasn't aged well. But I did notice The Tholian Web being a bit darker all around then most of the others thus far. However I always remembered the The Tholian Web as being darker then most episodes. Yeah I really don’t know, the color saturation seems pretty consistent, except in the occasional segment where the film clearly hasn’t aged well. But I did notice The Tholian Web being a bit darker all around then most of the others thus far. However I always remembered the The Tholian Web as being darker then most episodes.

]]> By: seangh http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-70730 seangh Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:48:13 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-70730 Hey Matt, Do you think they are color balancing each show individually or are they going with a pre-set for all episodes? I/m curious because some shows appear very saturated and rich, while others (like Tholian Web) have marked drop in color saturation. I'm wondering is they are taking some creative license with the color timing, mathing episode moods etc. Hey Matt,

Do you think they are color balancing each show individually or are they going with a pre-set for all episodes? I/m curious because some shows appear very saturated and rich, while others (like Tholian Web) have marked drop in color saturation. I’m wondering is they are taking some creative license with the color timing, mathing episode moods etc.

]]> By: Gd846c3 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-70596 Gd846c3 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:02:35 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-70596 I like your comment Doug, and though I didn't find any fault with the new Tholian Ships, I agree with your reasons for liking the original. where I stand, I don't really like the new or the old any better than the other. Both have different aspects which I like. ___ No clips for The Immunity Syndrome yet? I was looking forward to those. Maybe they'll put them up later tonight or tomorrow. I like your comment Doug, and though I didn’t find any fault with the new Tholian Ships, I agree with your reasons for liking the original.
where I stand, I don’t really like the new or the old any better than the other. Both have different aspects which I like.
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No clips for The Immunity Syndrome yet? I was looking forward to those. Maybe they’ll put them up later tonight or tomorrow.

]]> By: Doug http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-70443 Doug Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:51:39 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-70443 Well this is a fascinating thread! Without having seen it on TV, I tend to find the criticisms for Tholian Web, seem to match my own previously made criticisms. However, the Immunity Syndrome Clip, looks pretty damn good to me. For my part of it, a lot of us who complain about the effects, and the lighting and the cartooniness, and the grey Ent, etc etc, are trying to bring a balance between the new and the old. It has to "feel" right. That doesn't mean we're opposed to new angles, or warp effects, etc... Bring it on. The draw back of the original effects (specifically regarding the Ent) isn't the quality of the effect, it's that each episode has so many stock shots that CBS-D wouldn't be giving us anything new if they did shot by shot recreations. I have my list of regular gripes with the new effects, but when I think they shouldn't have changed the Tholian ships, it's not because I'm a purist, or in a "camp" it's because they were cool as they were. They were alien, and different and interesting. As far as a giant space amoeba goes, it's an amoeba, it doesn't really matter. This is where they could interpret if they wanted to. In any event the amoeba looks pretty damn good, as does the preview in general. I'll be Tivo'ing it. Doug Well this is a fascinating thread! Without having seen it on TV, I tend to find the criticisms for Tholian Web, seem to match my own previously made criticisms. However, the Immunity Syndrome Clip, looks pretty damn good to me.

For my part of it, a lot of us who complain about the effects, and the lighting and the cartooniness, and the grey Ent, etc etc, are trying to bring a balance between the new and the old. It has to “feel” right. That doesn’t mean we’re opposed to new angles, or warp effects, etc… Bring it on.

The draw back of the original effects (specifically regarding the Ent) isn’t the quality of the effect, it’s that each episode has so many stock shots that CBS-D wouldn’t be giving us anything new if they did shot by shot recreations.

I have my list of regular gripes with the new effects, but when I think they shouldn’t have changed the Tholian ships, it’s not because I’m a purist, or in a “camp” it’s because they were cool as they were. They were alien, and different and interesting. As far as a giant space amoeba goes, it’s an amoeba, it doesn’t really matter. This is where they could interpret if they wanted to.

In any event the amoeba looks pretty damn good, as does the preview in general. I’ll be Tivo’ing it.

Doug

]]> By: Mazzer http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-70398 Mazzer Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:08:53 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-70398 What, still no photos from the "The Immunity Syndrome" CGI ? I thought this episode would provide some good stuff... Oh, and those Quicktime previews crash my Internet Explorer... I don't know if it's the codec they use, but only the Star Trek videos cause this problem. What, still no photos from the “The Immunity Syndrome” CGI ? I thought this episode would provide some good stuff…

Oh, and those Quicktime previews crash my Internet Explorer… I don’t know if it’s the codec they use, but only the Star Trek videos cause this problem.

]]> By: Cervantes http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-70044 Cervantes Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:47:19 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-70044 #53 Michael Appleton We need more "smiley faces" in this world Michael! The way I do them to show up here is to first type a double colon : then without putting a space inbetween, typing a capital D. Now I'll do it an voila - :D In case you miss this I'll repost this in the near future, 'cause I'm generous that way. #53 Michael Appleton

We need more “smiley faces” in this world Michael!

The way I do them to show up here is to first type a double colon : then without putting a space inbetween, typing a capital D. Now I’ll do it an voila – :D

In case you miss this I’ll repost this in the near future, ’cause I’m generous that way.

]]> By: Sean4000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-69864 Sean4000 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:16:35 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-69864 I need to see these episodes in HD. Now it's serious. I need to see these episodes in HD. Now it’s serious.

]]> By: Matt Wright http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-69501 Matt Wright Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:23:27 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-69501 <p>OK about this darkness BS.<br /> 1. HD sources show a ton more detail, and have thousands of more pixels which bring out a different description of the luminance values then poor old 480i (standard TV) could ever hope to reproduce. </p> <p>2. Further there are clearly differences between the older DVD transfers versus the new HD transfer: the color balance is different and the saturation a bit richer.</p> <p>3. There seem to be some minor contrast differences between copies of the show depending on the format: The television ready ones sent the affiliates via satellite in digital standard definition vs. the 720p Xbox Live vs. the 480p iTunes versions.</p> <p>4. Most of you are watching on a random TV set, I bet it has never occurred to most people that you need to properly calibrate your TVs settings for color temperature, brightness, contrast, sharpness, etc. TVs come from the factory setup for a a blown out look for showroom demonstration. There are a couple of good calbiration DVDs out there that can be had for ~$30 that guide you through basic calibration steps.</p> <p>5. Finally, remember that a PC has a different white to black threshold level then TV. A PC goes from 0-255 while video has a 16-235 level. So what you see on your PC is going to look a bit different then on your TV. Not to mention PC monitors are not necessarily calibrated for the same levels or color temperature as a TV. I can tell you the TOS Remastered episodes I record to take screenshots from look different on my HDTV compared to when I take the recorded TV file to my desktop PC and make screenshots. </p> OK about this darkness BS.
1. HD sources show a ton more detail, and have thousands of more pixels which bring out a different description of the luminance values then poor old 480i (standard TV) could ever hope to reproduce.

2. Further there are clearly differences between the older DVD transfers versus the new HD transfer: the color balance is different and the saturation a bit richer.

3. There seem to be some minor contrast differences between copies of the show depending on the format: The television ready ones sent the affiliates via satellite in digital standard definition vs. the 720p Xbox Live vs. the 480p iTunes versions.

4. Most of you are watching on a random TV set, I bet it has never occurred to most people that you need to properly calibrate your TVs settings for color temperature, brightness, contrast, sharpness, etc. TVs come from the factory setup for a a blown out look for showroom demonstration. There are a couple of good calbiration DVDs out there that can be had for ~$30 that guide you through basic calibration steps.

5. Finally, remember that a PC has a different white to black threshold level then TV. A PC goes from 0-255 while video has a 16-235 level. So what you see on your PC is going to look a bit different then on your TV. Not to mention PC monitors are not necessarily calibrated for the same levels or color temperature as a TV. I can tell you the TOS Remastered episodes I record to take screenshots from look different on my HDTV compared to when I take the recorded TV file to my desktop PC and make screenshots.

]]> By: Jim J http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/comment-page-2/#comment-69148 Jim J Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:13:14 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/02/get-infected-with-the-immunity-syndrome-trailer/#comment-69148 84 & 85- Agreed on both of your posts. I always growl when the preview goes up while I'm at work. I can't watch it at work in quicktime. To add quick time, the tech coordinator has to put on the program. Not planning on that happening any time soon. I think this whole color thing is being way overblown. I don't know a lot about HD, but I'm thinking that THAT has something to do with the colors being toned down a TINY bit and everything being just a TAD darker. When watching these on iTunes, however, the darkness is GONE! When the HD dvd's come out and IF everything is still way too dark, then maybe these darkness complaints will be somewhat justified. Until then, I just sit back and enjoy...which I feel is a much better way to approach this rather than sitting on pins and needles and looking as hard as I can for any problem or mistake that isn't even there. Sure, there are a few here and there that we have mentioned, but....man, some people really must lead dreary lives being that pessimistic-GADS!!!! 84 & 85-
Agreed on both of your posts. I always growl when the preview goes up while I’m at work. I can’t watch it at work in quicktime. To add quick time, the tech coordinator has to put on the program. Not planning on that happening any time soon.

I think this whole color thing is being way overblown. I don’t know a lot about HD, but I’m thinking that THAT has something to do with the colors being toned down a TINY bit and everything being just a TAD darker. When watching these on iTunes, however, the darkness is GONE! When the HD dvd’s come out and IF everything is still way too dark, then maybe these darkness complaints will be somewhat justified.

Until then, I just sit back and enjoy…which I feel is a much better way to approach this rather than sitting on pins and needles and looking as hard as I can for any problem or mistake that isn’t even there. Sure, there are a few here and there that we have mentioned, but….man, some people really must lead dreary lives being that pessimistic-GADS!!!!

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