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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;And The Children Shall Lead&#8221; Screenshots &amp; Video</title>
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		<title>By: eagle219406</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/14/and-the-children-shall-lead-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-210540</link>
		<dc:creator>eagle219406</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19.  The Way the knives were positioned were to make Sulu think that if he moved the ship at all they would get stabbed.  I doubt they would have had that effect on him if the points were pointing towards the screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19.  The Way the knives were positioned were to make Sulu think that if he moved the ship at all they would get stabbed.  I doubt they would have had that effect on him if the points were pointing towards the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just caught up with &quot;Old Timey&#039;s&quot; post (#45).  I am, as they say, truly in awe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just caught up with &#8220;Old Timey&#8217;s&#8221; post (#45).  I am, as they say, truly in awe.</p>
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		<title>By: Olde Timey Fan</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/14/and-the-children-shall-lead-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-80436</link>
		<dc:creator>Olde Timey Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^89 Strike Falcon

As a recovering GOPer, I see the same tactics used by both major parties whose goal really is to maintain power and control for themselves and their minions.  To that extent, the lessons of ATCSL are timeless because human nature does not change.  Of particular interest to me is modern, scientific propaganda and the willing suspension of disbelief in our virtual age.  It is quite easy to &quot;read from the script&quot; because evidence to the contrary is hidden or withheld.  This was illustrated in the episdoe by the effect of the video on the children&#039;s suppressed grief.

Are we any better fourty years after this idea was (poorly!) put to screen?  I think not.  If anything, we are more willing to avoid contrary evidence to maintain the vitality of the illusion.  We pretend consequences do not exist because we ourselves do not see them.  That others, unknown to us, must live with those consequences, is of little concern.  This is particularly true when there is natural antithapy as between adolescents and their parents, freedom - authority.

Valid today is the concept of self-mastery as demonstrated by Kirk and Spock (and again in The Final Frontier with a very similar concept except it is depicted as Jungian Gestalt therapy rather than demonic possession.)

By the way -- I will be nice to see Kevin Thomas Reilly again.  I clicked your URL and saw Hyde&#039;s name.  He was recently interviewed by the StarTrekHistory.com people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^89 Strike Falcon</p>
<p>As a recovering GOPer, I see the same tactics used by both major parties whose goal really is to maintain power and control for themselves and their minions.  To that extent, the lessons of ATCSL are timeless because human nature does not change.  Of particular interest to me is modern, scientific propaganda and the willing suspension of disbelief in our virtual age.  It is quite easy to &#8220;read from the script&#8221; because evidence to the contrary is hidden or withheld.  This was illustrated in the episdoe by the effect of the video on the children&#8217;s suppressed grief.</p>
<p>Are we any better fourty years after this idea was (poorly!) put to screen?  I think not.  If anything, we are more willing to avoid contrary evidence to maintain the vitality of the illusion.  We pretend consequences do not exist because we ourselves do not see them.  That others, unknown to us, must live with those consequences, is of little concern.  This is particularly true when there is natural antithapy as between adolescents and their parents, freedom &#8211; authority.</p>
<p>Valid today is the concept of self-mastery as demonstrated by Kirk and Spock (and again in The Final Frontier with a very similar concept except it is depicted as Jungian Gestalt therapy rather than demonic possession.)</p>
<p>By the way &#8212; I will be nice to see Kevin Thomas Reilly again.  I clicked your URL and saw Hyde&#8217;s name.  He was recently interviewed by the StarTrekHistory.com people.</p>
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		<title>By: Olde Timey Fan</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/14/and-the-children-shall-lead-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-80426</link>
		<dc:creator>Olde Timey Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^80 Tomas Jensen

My wife&#039;s mother&#039;s maiden name is Jensen, lol!

I doubt I&#039;ll want to watch it again anytime soon, too.  But my opinion has changed markedly since fatherhood.  Thoughts of your own children and the world they inhabit tend to clarify one&#039;s perceptions.  Except for shower curtain choir robes and freckle-faced carrot tops that need a good spanking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^80 Tomas Jensen</p>
<p>My wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s maiden name is Jensen, lol!</p>
<p>I doubt I&#8217;ll want to watch it again anytime soon, too.  But my opinion has changed markedly since fatherhood.  Thoughts of your own children and the world they inhabit tend to clarify one&#8217;s perceptions.  Except for shower curtain choir robes and freckle-faced carrot tops that need a good spanking!</p>
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		<title>By: Olde Timey Fan</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/14/and-the-children-shall-lead-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-80421</link>
		<dc:creator>Olde Timey Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^104

Thanks for the Grammar Citation  :-)   I plead guilty as charged and throw myself on the mercy of the court.  I ask that my sentencing bear in mind my depleted mental condition after a long day building Hyperion consolidation systems!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^104</p>
<p>Thanks for the Grammar Citation  :-)   I plead guilty as charged and throw myself on the mercy of the court.  I ask that my sentencing bear in mind my depleted mental condition after a long day building Hyperion consolidation systems!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mrregular</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrregular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>111:
Cochrane could have been required to take a oath of secrecy along with his ground crew to NEVER reveal how they were &quot;helped&quot; to launch the Phoenix and change history.
Believe me, secrecy oaths have been required of people in the military and civilians who work in the military, not to mention local gentry who have stumbled onto &quot;classified&quot; situations/material. So it is possible too for First Contact.
That said, we can continue to enjoy the last great Star Trek film before the decline and fall of the film franchise...may it be reborn with the next film!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>111:<br />
Cochrane could have been required to take a oath of secrecy along with his ground crew to NEVER reveal how they were &#8220;helped&#8221; to launch the Phoenix and change history.<br />
Believe me, secrecy oaths have been required of people in the military and civilians who work in the military, not to mention local gentry who have stumbled onto &#8220;classified&#8221; situations/material. So it is possible too for First Contact.<br />
That said, we can continue to enjoy the last great Star Trek film before the decline and fall of the film franchise&#8230;may it be reborn with the next film!</p>
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		<title>By: LordEdzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordEdzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little surprised that they didn&#039;t &quot;upgrade&quot; Sulu&#039;s vision of the swords, but it&#039;s OK.  There&#039;s nothing wrong with the original.  I just always thought the blades should be pointing *toward* Sulu, not hilt first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little surprised that they didn&#8217;t &#8220;upgrade&#8221; Sulu&#8217;s vision of the swords, but it&#8217;s OK.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with the original.  I just always thought the blades should be pointing *toward* Sulu, not hilt first.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. James R. Kirk (James T's step brother once removed)</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/14/and-the-children-shall-lead-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-79433</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt. James R. Kirk (James T's step brother once removed)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never see Assignment:Earth listed as a bottom dweller.  It is just above Spocks Brain on my never want to see list and a few below this not quite as abysmal episode.   &quot;We went back in time to see just how humanity survived&quot;.  UGH!!  Time travel and messing around with the time lines....GRAACKK!!  First Contact was ruined by that (so Riker and Gordi from the future rode in the Phoenix...I&#039;m sure that was in the history texts at Kirk&#039;s academy).  

Let&#039;s see CBS-D deal with that peice of space junk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never see Assignment:Earth listed as a bottom dweller.  It is just above Spocks Brain on my never want to see list and a few below this not quite as abysmal episode.   &#8220;We went back in time to see just how humanity survived&#8221;.  UGH!!  Time travel and messing around with the time lines&#8230;.GRAACKK!!  First Contact was ruined by that (so Riker and Gordi from the future rode in the Phoenix&#8230;I&#8217;m sure that was in the history texts at Kirk&#8217;s academy).  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see CBS-D deal with that peice of space junk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shaye  -  Triacus fan</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/14/and-the-children-shall-lead-screenshots/comment-page-3/#comment-79431</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaye  -  Triacus fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Anthony,

Where is the review to ATCSL?

thank you, trek friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Anthony,</p>
<p>Where is the review to ATCSL?</p>
<p>thank you, trek friend!</p>
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		<title>By: THEETrekMaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>THEETrekMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60 Phase II probably would have had the same hairstyles, etc as ST:TMP....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60 Phase II probably would have had the same hairstyles, etc as ST:TMP&#8230;.</p>
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