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	<title>Comments on: Image From Remastered &#8220;All Our Yesterdays&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Doug J</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-84014</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to be honest..I prefer the old nova effect over the new one in &quot;All Our Yesterdays.&quot; Like most Trek episodes, this one is thought provoking. It is also one of the most emotionally gripping ones as well. When I watch it, I find myself moved and heartbroken by the terrible fate of Zarabeth. The sorrow one feels for Zarabeth is then--------------------with the sorrow one feels when in the last scene, the sun flares up and Sarpeidon, Zarabeth, Atoz, and the entirety of Sarpeidon&#039;s culture and history are erased from existence. The old nova special effect did this quickly and cleanly. The new special effect  (which I knew would use that &quot;ring&quot; explosion from so many other films) I found distracted me from what I would normally be feeling at that moment. Newer is not always better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to be honest..I prefer the old nova effect over the new one in &#8220;All Our Yesterdays.&#8221; Like most Trek episodes, this one is thought provoking. It is also one of the most emotionally gripping ones as well. When I watch it, I find myself moved and heartbroken by the terrible fate of Zarabeth. The sorrow one feels for Zarabeth is then&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;with the sorrow one feels when in the last scene, the sun flares up and Sarpeidon, Zarabeth, Atoz, and the entirety of Sarpeidon&#8217;s culture and history are erased from existence. The old nova special effect did this quickly and cleanly. The new special effect  (which I knew would use that &#8220;ring&#8221; explosion from so many other films) I found distracted me from what I would normally be feeling at that moment. Newer is not always better!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug L.</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-83314</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:  56

Also not commenting on the quality of the old effects.  I don&#039;t like to be lumped in with the purists who can&#039;t accept any form of change to classic Trek.  

dl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:  56</p>
<p>Also not commenting on the quality of the old effects.  I don&#8217;t like to be lumped in with the purists who can&#8217;t accept any form of change to classic Trek.  </p>
<p>dl</p>
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		<title>By: Doug L.</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-83118</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 56...

You&#039;re comment is a little insulting.  I don&#039;t think the effects from Galactica look cartoony.  I and I&#039;m sure others are perfectly capable of making their own decisions regarding the subjective quality of special effects regardless of whether they are made with computers or models.

I do however give up on the subject.   

Doug L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 56&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re comment is a little insulting.  I don&#8217;t think the effects from Galactica look cartoony.  I and I&#8217;m sure others are perfectly capable of making their own decisions regarding the subjective quality of special effects regardless of whether they are made with computers or models.</p>
<p>I do however give up on the subject.   </p>
<p>Doug L.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, I don&#039;t see it at all.  Looking at those two images side-by-side, the only thing &quot;distinguishing&quot; the older image from my POV is film grain and matte lines.  Otherwise, the Enterprise is both images (allowing for the different angle) isn&#039;t all that different.  I just don&#039;t believe that there would be all this talk of cartoons if people didn&#039;t know going in that these images were created with computers instead of models.

(I do agree, though, about the original effect probably being more what a supernova would actually look like.  The modern version looks more like the long-aftermath.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I don&#8217;t see it at all.  Looking at those two images side-by-side, the only thing &#8220;distinguishing&#8221; the older image from my POV is film grain and matte lines.  Otherwise, the Enterprise is both images (allowing for the different angle) isn&#8217;t all that different.  I just don&#8217;t believe that there would be all this talk of cartoons if people didn&#8217;t know going in that these images were created with computers instead of models.</p>
<p>(I do agree, though, about the original effect probably being more what a supernova would actually look like.  The modern version looks more like the long-aftermath.)</p>
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		<title>By: Doug L.</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-82093</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 52,

yes exactly.  to me also.  it looks like a cover painting for a book or something more than an effect.  I hate to make comparisons because it really generates a backlash on this site..., but I&#039;m so confused that so many people aren&#039;t seeing what I&#039;m seeing...   

You can look at old still shots from Star Wars or Empire which are over 25 years old, and these look like they could be ships in space (to my aesthetic at least), where as this looks like a painting or cartoon, and it translates that way in motion for the most part.  These are very pretty 3D Cartoons...  not because they are computer generated, but because they are not good enough to translate any other way.

Doug L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 52,</p>
<p>yes exactly.  to me also.  it looks like a cover painting for a book or something more than an effect.  I hate to make comparisons because it really generates a backlash on this site&#8230;, but I&#8217;m so confused that so many people aren&#8217;t seeing what I&#8217;m seeing&#8230;   </p>
<p>You can look at old still shots from Star Wars or Empire which are over 25 years old, and these look like they could be ships in space (to my aesthetic at least), where as this looks like a painting or cartoon, and it translates that way in motion for the most part.  These are very pretty 3D Cartoons&#8230;  not because they are computer generated, but because they are not good enough to translate any other way.</p>
<p>Doug L.</p>
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		<title>By: Sleeper Agent X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sleeper Agent X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Destructive bubble of doom is fine.  A ring makes absolutely no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Destructive bubble of doom is fine.  A ring makes absolutely no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: SPOCKBOY</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-82039</link>
		<dc:creator>SPOCKBOY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually guys,
Do any of you remember that shot in the Voyager credits where that intense light gleams through the edges of the ship?

THAT&#039;S what it should look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually guys,<br />
Do any of you remember that shot in the Voyager credits where that intense light gleams through the edges of the ship?</p>
<p>THAT&#8217;S what it should look like.</p>
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		<title>By: SPOCKBOY</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-82034</link>
		<dc:creator>SPOCKBOY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it looks like a cartoon..................................again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it looks like a cartoon&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.again.</p>
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		<title>By: Driver</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/19/image-from-remastered-all-our-yesterdays/comment-page-2/#comment-81754</link>
		<dc:creator>Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No ring? How about a destructive force bubble, ala Generations. 
When the supernova first explodes, maybe it&#039;s more like TOS, then fragments as shown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No ring? How about a destructive force bubble, ala Generations.<br />
When the supernova first explodes, maybe it&#8217;s more like TOS, then fragments as shown.</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the nova is supposed to be superbright, (which I assume...) the shadow on the E saucer is off...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the nova is supposed to be superbright, (which I assume&#8230;) the shadow on the E saucer is off&#8230;</p>
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