Comments on: Wrath of Khan and TNG Make EW’s Best Sci Fi List http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/ the source for Star Trek news and information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:56:53 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Spacerguy http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-116482 Spacerguy Mon, 04 Jun 2007 08:46:38 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-116482 The Star Trek TV Series are Great shows. The characters are filled with firey flames of passion and cold logic. Klingons, Romulans, Borg, Vulcans, Madmen, Murderers, Illogical emotional Humans, Androids and technological wizzardry!! Dont forget the cool ships. I love Star Trek which is why I created a blog and filled it with this stuff!!! The Star Trek TV Series are Great shows. The characters are filled with firey flames of passion and cold logic. Klingons, Romulans, Borg, Vulcans, Madmen, Murderers, Illogical emotional Humans, Androids and technological wizzardry!! Dont forget the cool ships. I love Star Trek which is why I created a blog and filled it with this stuff!!!

]]> By: COMPASSIONATE GOD http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-96820 COMPASSIONATE GOD Thu, 10 May 2007 12:20:41 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-96820 The Matrix??? At number one? Such a fanboy-ish choice of a paper-thin, style-over-substance crapfest kills the value of the article. The Matrix??? At number one?

Such a fanboy-ish choice of a paper-thin, style-over-substance crapfest kills the value of the article.

]]> By: Lord Garth Formerly of Izar http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-96060 Lord Garth Formerly of Izar Wed, 09 May 2007 16:13:17 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-96060 Big Trouble in Little China Jacobs Ladder Moontrap Big Trouble in Little China

Jacobs Ladder

Moontrap

]]> By: Trek Defense League http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-93734 Trek Defense League Mon, 07 May 2007 03:11:02 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-93734 The very notion of a cinematic image from "The Wrath Of Khan," ranking behind a cast shot of those Battlestar Galactica martinets in their Coast Guard uniforms and "with all due respect, sir" gaze, is sufficient reason to despair the good taste of our age. The very notion of a cinematic image from “The Wrath Of Khan,” ranking behind a cast shot of those Battlestar Galactica martinets in their Coast Guard uniforms and “with all due respect, sir” gaze, is sufficient reason to despair the good taste of our age.

]]> By: Sleeper Agent X http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-93594 Sleeper Agent X Sun, 06 May 2007 22:32:25 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-93594 Awww...(blushes). Seriously, Dom, I do appreciate the views you express on this site. Good to have you here. Awww…(blushes).

Seriously, Dom, I do appreciate the views you express on this site. Good to have you here.

]]> By: Dom http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-93175 Dom Sun, 06 May 2007 10:04:57 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-93175 Good morning, Sleeper Agent X. How are you today? I'm just sat here eating my corn flakes after a long, pleasant sleep. Love the 'j’accuse' remark: it reminds me of when Robert McKee trashed Citizen Kane on an episode of the 'J'Accuse' series. The remark about the spelling was intended as a joke and should probably have been accompanied by a smiley. It's the biggest trouble on this site, not being to edit the ferocity of some remarks post-posting! I have no problems with you. That’s right… je t'aime. ;) Good morning, Sleeper Agent X. How are you today? I’m just sat here eating my corn flakes after a long, pleasant sleep. Love the ‘j’accuse’ remark: it reminds me of when Robert McKee trashed Citizen Kane on an episode of the ‘J’Accuse’ series.

The remark about the spelling was intended as a joke and should probably have been accompanied by a smiley. It’s the biggest trouble on this site, not being to edit the ferocity of some remarks post-posting! I have no problems with you.

That’s right… je t’aime. ;)

]]> By: Sleeper Agent X http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-92931 Sleeper Agent X Sun, 06 May 2007 01:54:59 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-92931 Just for the record, I spelled "circumstances" correctly when I posted (though there are a bunch of grammatical errors that are my own). I don't know what it is, but sometime after my posts first go up, little positioning errors somehow creep in, like some dyslexic elf is messing with them. Gotta wonder what's going on there... And the fact you would take such a cheap shot at my spelling in the first place indicates you ARE the posturer with highbrow pretensions you so vehemently deny being. But it's all so obviously true. That's right...J'accuse! Just for the record, I spelled “circumstances” correctly when I posted (though there are a bunch of grammatical errors that are my own). I don’t know what it is, but sometime after my posts first go up, little positioning errors somehow creep in, like some dyslexic elf is messing with them. Gotta wonder what’s going on there…

And the fact you would take such a cheap shot at my spelling in the first place indicates you ARE the posturer with highbrow pretensions you so vehemently deny being. But it’s all so obviously true. That’s right…J’accuse!

]]> By: Dom http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-92849 Dom Sat, 05 May 2007 22:58:57 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-92849 Sleeper Agent X . Who's guilty of not taking other people's opinions into account now?! You pronounce a film as 'a complete piece of trash', which I openly say you're entitled to do, while I simply state that the criticisms of certain major critics indicates that they were dismissing the films for the wrong reason. I say that a film should be approached as a non-American film and you start spouting off about 'ersatz cineastes.' I work in TV and make small, insignificant films myself, mostly because I enjoy it. I have no time for the pseudo-intellectual, smug media class. I have to hang out with them occasionally because work requires it and they mostly make me want to vomit. Where I come from, 'world cinema' implies anything outside of the Hollywood machine. It's a shame for American audiences if studios mis-market films for them and it's a reflection of lack of sense within the studios. I can understand people in the US getting annoyed in those 'cricumstances' (sic.) But, seriously dude, you need to deal with whatever childhood trauma a Cahiers du Cinema reader caused you and join the real world. Saying that a European filmmaker who openly states that he approaches his films from the point of view of a European looking in at a different culture is not an opinion pronounced by an 'ersatz cineaste'. It's a statement of fact. Read some interviews with Verhoeven if in doubt. For what it's worth, I have hundreds of films in my DVD collection from all over the world. The cinema is an important part of my life and the media is something I have made my career in because movies of all types are important to me. I love anything from well-made trash to well-made arthouse. Oh, and if you get wound up over what I've just said, try ending your post without writing something along the lines of 'That’s right…you!!!' or 'how narrow-minded…of you!!!' It's repetitive and dull and resembles a drunk in a bar who keeps pestering you looking for a fight!! Sleeper Agent X . Who’s guilty of not taking other people’s opinions into account now?! You pronounce a film as ‘a complete piece of trash’, which I openly say you’re entitled to do, while I simply state that the criticisms of certain major critics indicates that they were dismissing the films for the wrong reason. I say that a film should be approached as a non-American film and you start spouting off about ‘ersatz cineastes.’

I work in TV and make small, insignificant films myself, mostly because I enjoy it. I have no time for the pseudo-intellectual, smug media class. I have to hang out with them occasionally because work requires it and they mostly make me want to vomit.

Where I come from, ‘world cinema’ implies anything outside of the Hollywood machine. It’s a shame for American audiences if studios mis-market films for them and it’s a reflection of lack of sense within the studios. I can understand people in the US getting annoyed in those ‘cricumstances’ (sic.)

But, seriously dude, you need to deal with whatever childhood trauma a Cahiers du Cinema reader caused you and join the real world. Saying that a European filmmaker who openly states that he approaches his films from the point of view of a European looking in at a different culture is not an opinion pronounced by an ‘ersatz cineaste’. It’s a statement of fact. Read some interviews with Verhoeven if in doubt.

For what it’s worth, I have hundreds of films in my DVD collection from all over the world. The cinema is an important part of my life and the media is something I have made my career in because movies of all types are important to me. I love anything from well-made trash to well-made arthouse.

Oh, and if you get wound up over what I’ve just said, try ending your post without writing something along the lines of ‘That’s right…you!!!’ or ‘how narrow-minded…of you!!!’ It’s repetitive and dull and resembles a drunk in a bar who keeps pestering you looking for a fight!!

]]> By: Sleeper Agent X http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-92772 Sleeper Agent X Sat, 05 May 2007 20:27:58 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-92772 29 - Dom, those movies were made by Hollywood studios and were marketed as serious action movies--at least in the U.S.. Given those cricumstances I could see how people might get confused. And by the way, just because you slap the label of "world cinema" on something, that doesn't excuse it from being a complete piece of trash. Sadly, too many people both inside and outside the U.S. believe exactly that, and you sound like one of them. So who's guilty of being the pompous, ersatz cineaste here? That's right...you!!! 29 – Dom, those movies were made by Hollywood studios and were marketed as serious action movies–at least in the U.S.. Given those cricumstances I could see how people might get confused.

And by the way, just because you slap the label of “world cinema” on something, that doesn’t excuse it from being a complete piece of trash. Sadly, too many people both inside and outside the U.S. believe exactly that, and you sound like one of them. So who’s guilty of being the pompous, ersatz cineaste here? That’s right…you!!!

]]> By: Kev http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/comment-page-1/#comment-92715 Kev Sat, 05 May 2007 17:33:06 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/05/04/wrath-of-khan-and-tng-make-ews-best-sci-fi-list/#comment-92715 Robocop? Lists are always subjective. They put them out ad infinitum. Yes to V and Galaxy Quest. Not surprised at the new BSG being there, despite low ratings. Matrix, however is one of very few new SF properties to really resonate hugely. Babylon 5 deserves to be there, but,,hey it all comes down to who's sitting around the table and how good their memories are that day. The stuff that's really good doesn't need a list. Robocop? Lists are always subjective. They put them out ad infinitum. Yes to V and Galaxy Quest. Not surprised at the new BSG being there, despite low ratings. Matrix, however is one of very few new SF properties to really resonate hugely. Babylon 5 deserves to be there, but,,hey it all comes down to who’s sitting around the table and how good their memories are that day. The stuff that’s really good doesn’t need a list.

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