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	<title>Comments on: Bread and Circuses Remastered Airs This Weekend</title>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/02/bread-and-circuses-remastered-airs-this-weekend/comment-page-2/#comment-118920</link>
		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 Nelson

Yes, if we only ever get Original Aspect Ratio of 4:3 for the live-action footage, that&#039;s fine, but I would love to see an ALL 16:9 &quot;Widescreen&quot; ratio too if possible purely for it&#039;s cinematic look.  I don&#039;t REALLY want it done if it&#039;s just a lazy butcher job of &quot;cutting off the top and bottom&quot;, what I want, IF it&#039;s possible to do this, is for the profiteers to get someone with a good &quot;compositional eye&quot; to do this in a MIXTURE of ways: some scenes that can get away with it would  just be cut top and bottom, other more difficult scenes would be sympathetically &quot;panned and scanned&quot;, and the most unusable footage that will look TOO &quot;Siergio Leone-like&quot; where face close-ups etc. are concerned, would need to have sides ADDED!   If it&#039;s a cheap basic routethey go for, it will look bad, and I too say forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 Nelson</p>
<p>Yes, if we only ever get Original Aspect Ratio of 4:3 for the live-action footage, that&#8217;s fine, but I would love to see an ALL 16:9 &#8220;Widescreen&#8221; ratio too if possible purely for it&#8217;s cinematic look.  I don&#8217;t REALLY want it done if it&#8217;s just a lazy butcher job of &#8220;cutting off the top and bottom&#8221;, what I want, IF it&#8217;s possible to do this, is for the profiteers to get someone with a good &#8220;compositional eye&#8221; to do this in a MIXTURE of ways: some scenes that can get away with it would  just be cut top and bottom, other more difficult scenes would be sympathetically &#8220;panned and scanned&#8221;, and the most unusable footage that will look TOO &#8220;Siergio Leone-like&#8221; where face close-ups etc. are concerned, would need to have sides ADDED!   If it&#8217;s a cheap basic routethey go for, it will look bad, and I too say forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some of us at the Home Thear Forum, and Bill has contributed there, the mantra is OAR. There was some very unhappy people when Kung Fu was released on DVD, they reframed it to be fake widescreen, cutting off the top and bottom of the 4:3 frame. I have not seen it, but that was the implication. 

I hope that never happens to TOS, the composition of shots would not work some of the times, like close-ups on actors. 

Thanks for the link to the Digital Bits article. I guess he&#039;s declaring a format winner. I&#039;ll read that now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some of us at the Home Thear Forum, and Bill has contributed there, the mantra is OAR. There was some very unhappy people when Kung Fu was released on DVD, they reframed it to be fake widescreen, cutting off the top and bottom of the 4:3 frame. I have not seen it, but that was the implication. </p>
<p>I hope that never happens to TOS, the composition of shots would not work some of the times, like close-ups on actors. </p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the Digital Bits article. I guess he&#8217;s declaring a format winner. I&#8217;ll read that now.</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er...that first line should have read - ...help greatly to make this Earthlike planet seem to be more like an alien planet WHICH it actually is. ( as in it&#039;s meant to be an alien planet )

By the way, here&#039;s the link for that High Definition article -

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/soapbox/soap060107.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er&#8230;that first line should have read &#8211; &#8230;help greatly to make this Earthlike planet seem to be more like an alien planet WHICH it actually is. ( as in it&#8217;s meant to be an alien planet )</p>
<p>By the way, here&#8217;s the link for that High Definition article -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/soapbox/soap060107.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/soapbox/soap060107.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think those double moons are an excellent addition which help greatly to make this Earthlike planet seem to be more like an alien planet that it acually is.  Well done to CBS for adding them, and I only wish we would have seen more of this kind of background additions to enhance other bare alien backdrops along the way.

As has been covered here before, the end of the year remastered High Definition DVDs will be initially released on &quot;HYBRID COMBO&quot; Discs which will play not just on HD-DVD players, but ALSO on plain &#039;ol standard DVD players too...so anyone that hasn&#039;t decided on which High Definition format player to buy yet can STILL watch them till they do decide.
I would say though that Bill Hunt and the rest of the gang at the highly respected and informative site www.the digitalbits.com have just this week FULLY thrown their advice to consumers to go with the BLU-RAY format rather than the HD-DVD one ( sorry Lord Garth, and I hope Marta doesn&#039;t sulk) and have just written a terrific piece about the reasons why under the heading &quot;SOAPBOX&quot; on 1st June.  I would urge those interested to read it.    Finally, though ALL of the footage in these initial releases will be in 4x3, I hope for some kind of cinematic 16x9 version EVENTUALLY, even if it is sometimes like Siergio Leone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those double moons are an excellent addition which help greatly to make this Earthlike planet seem to be more like an alien planet that it acually is.  Well done to CBS for adding them, and I only wish we would have seen more of this kind of background additions to enhance other bare alien backdrops along the way.</p>
<p>As has been covered here before, the end of the year remastered High Definition DVDs will be initially released on &#8220;HYBRID COMBO&#8221; Discs which will play not just on HD-DVD players, but ALSO on plain &#8216;ol standard DVD players too&#8230;so anyone that hasn&#8217;t decided on which High Definition format player to buy yet can STILL watch them till they do decide.<br />
I would say though that Bill Hunt and the rest of the gang at the highly respected and informative site <a href="http://www.the" rel="nofollow">http://www.the</a> digitalbits.com have just this week FULLY thrown their advice to consumers to go with the BLU-RAY format rather than the HD-DVD one ( sorry Lord Garth, and I hope Marta doesn&#8217;t sulk) and have just written a terrific piece about the reasons why under the heading &#8220;SOAPBOX&#8221; on 1st June.  I would urge those interested to read it.    Finally, though ALL of the footage in these initial releases will be in 4&#215;3, I hope for some kind of cinematic 16&#215;9 version EVENTUALLY, even if it is sometimes like Siergio Leone!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nelson for the update.

My TIVO/Direct TV schedule did not catch the change...I happened to be watching at 11PM and had to manually change the TIVO to record at 2AM for what was billed as &quot;Paid Programming&quot; on the on-screen schedule.

So this weekend&#039;s show is at 11PM then, but not the week after.  

Still, if American Idol were to go the way of the Dodo, I would not exactly be shedding any tears...at the risk of showing my age, where o where has any real musical talent gone?  Or do I have already answered this question with my Dodo reference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nelson for the update.</p>
<p>My TIVO/Direct TV schedule did not catch the change&#8230;I happened to be watching at 11PM and had to manually change the TIVO to record at 2AM for what was billed as &#8220;Paid Programming&#8221; on the on-screen schedule.</p>
<p>So this weekend&#8217;s show is at 11PM then, but not the week after.  </p>
<p>Still, if American Idol were to go the way of the Dodo, I would not exactly be shedding any tears&#8230;at the risk of showing my age, where o where has any real musical talent gone?  Or do I have already answered this question with my Dodo reference?</p>
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		<title>By: bman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They shoulda remastered that awful exchange about &quot;something they used to call video&quot; out while they were working on this one. That&#039;s so groan-worthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They shoulda remastered that awful exchange about &#8220;something they used to call video&#8221; out while they were working on this one. That&#8217;s so groan-worthy.</p>
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		<title>By: paul austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58- lol the line that always went over my head untill recently to my shame is the Kirk line when he escapes the arena and rescues McCoy and Spock &quot;They threw me a few curves&quot; shame on me, shame shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58- lol the line that always went over my head untill recently to my shame is the Kirk line when he escapes the arena and rescues McCoy and Spock &#8220;They threw me a few curves&#8221; shame on me, shame shame</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nelson,

Thanks for the input. I will tell hubby that I am right and hence the uber-trekkie of the house.  Actually, it had been many moons since we watched and were happy to find it on a local station at a decent time (6pm on saturday here not in the wee hours) a few months ago. Our kids are now getting trekified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nelson,</p>
<p>Thanks for the input. I will tell hubby that I am right and hence the uber-trekkie of the house.  Actually, it had been many moons since we watched and were happy to find it on a local station at a decent time (6pm on saturday here not in the wee hours) a few months ago. Our kids are now getting trekified.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have reported that the DVDs will be in 4:3, which means the CGI will be cropped for HD. This is also in on the TOS-R info page (see tabs at the top of the page). Many questions that get asked are answered up there....i suggest everyone study them....there will be a quiz later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have reported that the DVDs will be in 4:3, which means the CGI will be cropped for HD. This is also in on the TOS-R info page (see tabs at the top of the page). Many questions that get asked are answered up there&#8230;.i suggest everyone study them&#8230;.there will be a quiz later</p>
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		<title>By: Mazzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it a wicked tease that CBS releases a live action still in 16:9 if they&#039;re not going to offer a wider-screen version for the DVD release!  Come on, CBS, let us know definitively what the plan is!  

As others have said in this thread, it sounds like it&#039;ll be 4x3, because hopping back and forth between 16x9 CGI and 4x3 live action would be horrible.  But I want to see a release that&#039;s wider throughout... 16x9 may be too tight for ST&#039;s compositions, but around 1.60:1 would work.  So any plans for a release that&#039;s wider than 4x3?  Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it a wicked tease that CBS releases a live action still in 16:9 if they&#8217;re not going to offer a wider-screen version for the DVD release!  Come on, CBS, let us know definitively what the plan is!  </p>
<p>As others have said in this thread, it sounds like it&#8217;ll be 4&#215;3, because hopping back and forth between 16&#215;9 CGI and 4&#215;3 live action would be horrible.  But I want to see a release that&#8217;s wider throughout&#8230; 16&#215;9 may be too tight for ST&#8217;s compositions, but around 1.60:1 would work.  So any plans for a release that&#8217;s wider than 4&#215;3?  Please?</p>
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