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	<title>Comments on: Time To Form Starfleet?</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/03/time-to-form-starfleet/comment-page-2/#comment-124251</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elected officials will never ok a large space program.  Why?  Because it costs a hell of a lot of money and doesn&#039;t instantly make the voters happy.  I doubt we&#039;ll ever make it into space unless someone can convince the public that space exploration is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elected officials will never ok a large space program.  Why?  Because it costs a hell of a lot of money and doesn&#8217;t instantly make the voters happy.  I doubt we&#8217;ll ever make it into space unless someone can convince the public that space exploration is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/03/time-to-form-starfleet/comment-page-2/#comment-119342</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... with recent democratic friction between the US, UK and Russia we may indeed be entering into a 2nd Cold War.

There is strong hope for this space program then.... hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; with recent democratic friction between the US, UK and Russia we may indeed be entering into a 2nd Cold War.</p>
<p>There is strong hope for this space program then&#8230;. hehe</p>
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		<title>By: IrishTrekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrishTrekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh tony i like the Roddenberry qoute , heres a qoute i love , that to me sums up the need for space travel.

&quot;Earth is the cradle of man, but man does not live in the cradle forever.&quot; 

          -- Konstantin Tsiolkovsky 



( yea so i say we bulit some ship , and try our luck at invading that Goldilocks Planet (Gliese 581 c) in any luck we  wont screw that place up as bad, as earth .........................no what am i saying i am sure we will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh tony i like the Roddenberry qoute , heres a qoute i love , that to me sums up the need for space travel.</p>
<p>&#8220;Earth is the cradle of man, but man does not live in the cradle forever.&#8221; </p>
<p>          &#8212; Konstantin Tsiolkovsky </p>
<p>( yea so i say we bulit some ship , and try our luck at invading that Goldilocks Planet (Gliese 581 c) in any luck we  wont screw that place up as bad, as earth &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.no what am i saying i am sure we will.</p>
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		<title>By: IrishTrekkie</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/03/time-to-form-starfleet/comment-page-2/#comment-118329</link>
		<dc:creator>IrishTrekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm maybe in the end its all about Politics, if russia , european , america, japan , and who ever else , went and built a craft for a mission to mars , would someon demand that their astronaut/cosmonaut/taikonaut/spationaut , be the first on mars ? 

do we all get to put our flag down ? ( actually i say we nick this star trek united earth flag , but the just me .  http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:United_Earth_logo.png )

so would they all speak English on the trip to mars , or russian , or one of the many european langrauges etc. ( come to think of we better make a universal translater fast)

i mean  stupid stuff like this might seems unimportant, its the kinda the stuff , that slow down counties working together . but to be fair we have come a long away already towards working together , its justing going to be slow going.

Oh the plus side , the x prize and spaceship one , are all very good things in my opinion as they make aerospace technology more available,  will come up with need ideas , and bring the price of space travel down .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm maybe in the end its all about Politics, if russia , european , america, japan , and who ever else , went and built a craft for a mission to mars , would someon demand that their astronaut/cosmonaut/taikonaut/spationaut , be the first on mars ? </p>
<p>do we all get to put our flag down ? ( actually i say we nick this star trek united earth flag , but the just me .  <a href="http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:United_Earth_logo.png" rel="nofollow">http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:United_Earth_logo.png</a> )</p>
<p>so would they all speak English on the trip to mars , or russian , or one of the many european langrauges etc. ( come to think of we better make a universal translater fast)</p>
<p>i mean  stupid stuff like this might seems unimportant, its the kinda the stuff , that slow down counties working together . but to be fair we have come a long away already towards working together , its justing going to be slow going.</p>
<p>Oh the plus side , the x prize and spaceship one , are all very good things in my opinion as they make aerospace technology more available,  will come up with need ideas , and bring the price of space travel down .</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/03/time-to-form-starfleet/comment-page-2/#comment-117257</link>
		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humans are petty, selfish and more... but it&#039;s a start. Let&#039;s see where it goes and support it if it&#039;s worth it. Anyone thinking this would heal all things needs to check their meds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans are petty, selfish and more&#8230; but it&#8217;s a start. Let&#8217;s see where it goes and support it if it&#8217;s worth it. Anyone thinking this would heal all things needs to check their meds.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(and the movie reference, someone take my trekkie card away!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(and the movie reference, someone take my trekkie card away!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(bracing self due the painfully obvious typo&#039;s with Cochrane&#039;s name) ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(bracing self due the painfully obvious typo&#8217;s with Cochrane&#8217;s name) ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting thread.

Anyway, I was starting to think about how today&#039;s society appears to based largely on pettiness and greed.  I began to remember Gene Roddenberry making a comment about petty dictatorships and that which humankind hungers for.  I also remembered that according to Star Trek 6, Zefram Conhran&#039;s motivation for the Phoenix was dollar signs.  He humbled a bit eventually, when he got to see the perpective of this lone blue planet in the vastness of space, didn&#039;t he?

International cooperation for space exploration, even though the document is non-binding.. what more can one ask given the circumstances of the day?  

I guess what I&#039;m getting at is, I agree - it will probably take a private entity to get us where we need to be. 

I don&#039;t know, but I&#039;m starting to babble.  To stop myself I&#039;ve found that quote I was thinking of:

&quot;The much-maligned common man and common woman have an enormous hunger for brotherhood. They are ready for the 23rd century now. They are light-years ahead of their petty governments and visionless leaders.&quot;

-- Gene Roddenberry, 1976</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting thread.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was starting to think about how today&#8217;s society appears to based largely on pettiness and greed.  I began to remember Gene Roddenberry making a comment about petty dictatorships and that which humankind hungers for.  I also remembered that according to Star Trek 6, Zefram Conhran&#8217;s motivation for the Phoenix was dollar signs.  He humbled a bit eventually, when he got to see the perpective of this lone blue planet in the vastness of space, didn&#8217;t he?</p>
<p>International cooperation for space exploration, even though the document is non-binding.. what more can one ask given the circumstances of the day?  </p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m getting at is, I agree &#8211; it will probably take a private entity to get us where we need to be. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, but I&#8217;m starting to babble.  To stop myself I&#8217;ve found that quote I was thinking of:</p>
<p>&#8220;The much-maligned common man and common woman have an enormous hunger for brotherhood. They are ready for the 23rd century now. They are light-years ahead of their petty governments and visionless leaders.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; Gene Roddenberry, 1976</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plans for the Saturn V were NOT destroyed.  In fact, an updated version of the J2 rocket engine is being developed for use in the upper stages of both the Ares I and Ares V launch vehicles.

Government AND private.  Individual nations AND international cooperation.  It will take the efforts and commitments of many, working in many different ways, to meet the challenges of space exploration and development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plans for the Saturn V were NOT destroyed.  In fact, an updated version of the J2 rocket engine is being developed for use in the upper stages of both the Ares I and Ares V launch vehicles.</p>
<p>Government AND private.  Individual nations AND international cooperation.  It will take the efforts and commitments of many, working in many different ways, to meet the challenges of space exploration and development.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Garth Formerly of Izar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Garth Formerly of Izar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Anthony is today the anniversarry opening of Star Trek II???? There&#039;s a great article at aintitcool by a by Original Trek supporter (and spinoff loather) Merrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anthony is today the anniversarry opening of Star Trek II???? There&#8217;s a great article at aintitcool by a by Original Trek supporter (and spinoff loather) Merrick</p>
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