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	<title>Comments on: Review of &#8220;Bread and Circuses&#8221; Remastered</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/07/review-of-bread-and-circuses-remastered/comment-page-1/#comment-123297</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In Trekdom, science always triumphs over religion, and is often ridiculed in a way reminiscent of Roddenberry’s above quote. &quot;


Star Trek often ridicules science?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In Trekdom, science always triumphs over religion, and is often ridiculed in a way reminiscent of Roddenberry’s above quote. &#8221;</p>
<p>Star Trek often ridicules science?</p>
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		<title>By: planettom</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/07/review-of-bread-and-circuses-remastered/comment-page-1/#comment-122769</link>
		<dc:creator>planettom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a pretty good episode.    Sure, the parallel evolution of a Roman Empire that doesn&#039;t fall is absurd... just as the &quot;Miri&quot; planet with identical continents was absurd.   Or a gangster planet that came about  from imitating a book.   

But it works.    They weren&#039;t trying to write a series that would still be cross-examined 40 years later and fit in with a complicated tapestry of future history, they were trying to write an imaginative TV series and incidentally trying to keep costs down by using stuff that already existed on backlots.

Something that struck me was, the slave costumes would be a rather simple and yet subtle touch at a Trek convention.    Grey t-shirt with that chain symbol, gray paints, dark shoes, and you&#039;re ready to go!   And you could always add a sword to help people &quot;get it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pretty good episode.    Sure, the parallel evolution of a Roman Empire that doesn&#8217;t fall is absurd&#8230; just as the &#8220;Miri&#8221; planet with identical continents was absurd.   Or a gangster planet that came about  from imitating a book.   </p>
<p>But it works.    They weren&#8217;t trying to write a series that would still be cross-examined 40 years later and fit in with a complicated tapestry of future history, they were trying to write an imaginative TV series and incidentally trying to keep costs down by using stuff that already existed on backlots.</p>
<p>Something that struck me was, the slave costumes would be a rather simple and yet subtle touch at a Trek convention.    Grey t-shirt with that chain symbol, gray paints, dark shoes, and you&#8217;re ready to go!   And you could always add a sword to help people &#8220;get it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Image (AKA/ Maximus Decimus Merideus)</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/07/review-of-bread-and-circuses-remastered/comment-page-1/#comment-122321</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Image (AKA/ Maximus Decimus Merideus)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review and quite an insightful set of comments.
This ep plays better than I remember it.
TOS could pull something like this off- something Voyager could NEVER get away with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review and quite an insightful set of comments.<br />
This ep plays better than I remember it.<br />
TOS could pull something like this off- something Voyager could NEVER get away with.</p>
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		<title>By: Donnysan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donnysan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 04:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of my favorite TOS episodes, but watching it again, I was cringing at the oil lamps used for lighting. Wha? 20th Century Rome with oil lamps? Not very efficient lighting, inconvenient, and dangerous.

Just a nitpick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of my favorite TOS episodes, but watching it again, I was cringing at the oil lamps used for lighting. Wha? 20th Century Rome with oil lamps? Not very efficient lighting, inconvenient, and dangerous.</p>
<p>Just a nitpick.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming Roddenberry came up with the basic story for Bread &amp; Circuses and Coon wrote the script. As for the Who Mourns For Adonais? line, remember that the &quot;we find the one sufficient&quot; was added at the request of the network standards and practices division--the original line was simply &quot;We&#039;ve grown too old for gods.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming Roddenberry came up with the basic story for Bread &amp; Circuses and Coon wrote the script. As for the Who Mourns For Adonais? line, remember that the &#8220;we find the one sufficient&#8221; was added at the request of the network standards and practices division&#8211;the original line was simply &#8220;We&#8217;ve grown too old for gods.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the Altman &quot;Patterns of Force&quot; catastrophe a couple weeks ago, I admit I was concerned about this review and whether the reviewer would address Trek&#039;s most direct examination of Christianity without diatribes, insults, or political commentary.  I am happy to say that Kevin Ganster&#039;s funny, thoughtful, and even-handed review completely assuaged my fears.  Bravo.

One wonders how much of the episode Roddenberry actually had anything to do with, given the contrast between B&amp;C&#039;s generally positive portrayal of Christianity and Roddenberry&#039;s supposed anti-religion beliefs.  Look at Kirk&#039;s face, the tone of his voice, when he utters the line &quot;Wouldn’t it be something to watch, to be a part of? To see it happen all over again?&quot;  It&#039;s perhaps the Shat&#039;s best moment as an actor - he conveys an almost startling impression of awe and reverence.  Combined with the above-mentioned line from &quot;Who Mourns For Adonis,&quot; it does offer some evidence that the 23rd century may not be as entirely free of faith as some &quot;humanists&quot; may like to think.  

It would be interesting to key some of Roddenberry&#039;s famous anti-religion quotes to the specific times in his life when he expressed them, and put them back into the context to get the whole story.  Might be illuminating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the Altman &#8220;Patterns of Force&#8221; catastrophe a couple weeks ago, I admit I was concerned about this review and whether the reviewer would address Trek&#8217;s most direct examination of Christianity without diatribes, insults, or political commentary.  I am happy to say that Kevin Ganster&#8217;s funny, thoughtful, and even-handed review completely assuaged my fears.  Bravo.</p>
<p>One wonders how much of the episode Roddenberry actually had anything to do with, given the contrast between B&amp;C&#8217;s generally positive portrayal of Christianity and Roddenberry&#8217;s supposed anti-religion beliefs.  Look at Kirk&#8217;s face, the tone of his voice, when he utters the line &#8220;Wouldn’t it be something to watch, to be a part of? To see it happen all over again?&#8221;  It&#8217;s perhaps the Shat&#8217;s best moment as an actor &#8211; he conveys an almost startling impression of awe and reverence.  Combined with the above-mentioned line from &#8220;Who Mourns For Adonis,&#8221; it does offer some evidence that the 23rd century may not be as entirely free of faith as some &#8220;humanists&#8221; may like to think.  </p>
<p>It would be interesting to key some of Roddenberry&#8217;s famous anti-religion quotes to the specific times in his life when he expressed them, and put them back into the context to get the whole story.  Might be illuminating.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review! As for Shatner &quot;agreeing with the sentiment&quot; about being excited about another Christ, Shatner is Jewish so I have my doubts about that.

In either Whitfield&#039;s The Making of Star Trek or Gerrold&#039;s The World of Star Trek there&#039;s a line about there being an assumption that universal translators are &quot;sewn into the pants leg&quot; of uniforms (no idea where they are on Starfleet miniskirts) and are constantly translating alien/foreign languages into something understandable by the crew. Trek at least tried to address this issue but they were inconsistent about it.

I do think the anti-religious bent in TOS and much of later Trek (see TNG&#039;s  &quot;Who Watches the Watchers&quot;) is very clear and DS9&#039;s approach was kind of the exception that proves the rule. In any case, this is definitely one of my favorite episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review! As for Shatner &#8220;agreeing with the sentiment&#8221; about being excited about another Christ, Shatner is Jewish so I have my doubts about that.</p>
<p>In either Whitfield&#8217;s The Making of Star Trek or Gerrold&#8217;s The World of Star Trek there&#8217;s a line about there being an assumption that universal translators are &#8220;sewn into the pants leg&#8221; of uniforms (no idea where they are on Starfleet miniskirts) and are constantly translating alien/foreign languages into something understandable by the crew. Trek at least tried to address this issue but they were inconsistent about it.</p>
<p>I do think the anti-religious bent in TOS and much of later Trek (see TNG&#8217;s  &#8220;Who Watches the Watchers&#8221;) is very clear and DS9&#8217;s approach was kind of the exception that proves the rule. In any case, this is definitely one of my favorite episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Garth Formerly of Izar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Garth Formerly of Izar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review of a very fun episode!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review of a very fun episode!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto Granger!</description>
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		<title>By: Granger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Granger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a superb review, enhancing my enjoyment of the episode.  Thanks for the time and effort spent writing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a superb review, enhancing my enjoyment of the episode.  Thanks for the time and effort spent writing it.</p>
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