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	<title>Comments on: New Official Fan Fiction Contest Pits Kirk and Picard</title>
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		<title>By: FanFic &#187; Star Trek FanFic Contest</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/12/new-official-fan-fiction-contest-pits-kirk-and-picard/comment-page-1/#comment-186220</link>
		<dc:creator>FanFic &#187; Star Trek FanFic Contest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I just came across this contest: New Official Fan Fiction Contest Pits Kirk And Picard that some of you Star Trek fanfic writers may be interested in. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I just came across this contest: New Official Fan Fiction Contest Pits Kirk And Picard that some of you Star Trek fanfic writers may be interested in. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: meander</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/12/new-official-fan-fiction-contest-pits-kirk-and-picard/comment-page-1/#comment-130203</link>
		<dc:creator>meander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s still not many warm fuzzy feelings from fandom towards fanlib.com, in part due to original wording in their TOS which would render fanwriters legally liable should anyone sue, and which would give them full rights to uploaded fanfics--oh, and how they intended to make money off of fanfic. 

Then there was the little matter of how they spammed people based on the number of fics they&#039;d written, how the CEO was outright trolling people&#039;s livejournals, and how they put up sections on their site for fandoms where the authors are adamantly and openly opposed to fanfic. 

THEN there was the infamous marketing brochure that practically oozed a supercilious lack of knowledge of fandom in general.

When they came out, fandom in general went into a torch-and-pitchfork-waving fury. Feministsf&#039;s thumbed their nose at them. Making Light&#039;s declared the entire venture doomed. Journalfen&#039;s fandom_wank has mocked them wholeheartedly. It&#039;s even spawned an anti-them livejournal community, with plenty of additional information and linkage: http://community.livejournal.com/life_wo_fanlib/

So it&#039;s not that they&#039;re &quot;popular&quot; so much as &quot;infamous.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s still not many warm fuzzy feelings from fandom towards fanlib.com, in part due to original wording in their TOS which would render fanwriters legally liable should anyone sue, and which would give them full rights to uploaded fanfics&#8211;oh, and how they intended to make money off of fanfic. </p>
<p>Then there was the little matter of how they spammed people based on the number of fics they&#8217;d written, how the CEO was outright trolling people&#8217;s livejournals, and how they put up sections on their site for fandoms where the authors are adamantly and openly opposed to fanfic. </p>
<p>THEN there was the infamous marketing brochure that practically oozed a supercilious lack of knowledge of fandom in general.</p>
<p>When they came out, fandom in general went into a torch-and-pitchfork-waving fury. Feministsf&#8217;s thumbed their nose at them. Making Light&#8217;s declared the entire venture doomed. Journalfen&#8217;s fandom_wank has mocked them wholeheartedly. It&#8217;s even spawned an anti-them livejournal community, with plenty of additional information and linkage: <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/life_wo_fanlib/" rel="nofollow">http://community.livejournal.com/life_wo_fanlib/</a></p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not that they&#8217;re &#8220;popular&#8221; so much as &#8220;infamous.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/12/new-official-fan-fiction-contest-pits-kirk-and-picard/comment-page-1/#comment-125588</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it appears that i didnt mention &#039;Star Trek The New Voyages&#039; which predated &#039;Strange New Worlds&#039; I have added it to the article. I actually called Pocket to fact check and confirm that they were getting out of the fan fic biz, but I guess I should have double checked on when it all started

regardless...printed star trek fan fiction will soon be a relic of the past. I was told by an editor there that the mail room guy is very happy about this....they stopped counting submissions and would actually judge volume by the pound. I do not envy the guy who had to go through it all to find the good ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it appears that i didnt mention &#8216;Star Trek The New Voyages&#8217; which predated &#8216;Strange New Worlds&#8217; I have added it to the article. I actually called Pocket to fact check and confirm that they were getting out of the fan fic biz, but I guess I should have double checked on when it all started</p>
<p>regardless&#8230;printed star trek fan fiction will soon be a relic of the past. I was told by an editor there that the mail room guy is very happy about this&#8230;.they stopped counting submissions and would actually judge volume by the pound. I do not envy the guy who had to go through it all to find the good ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28 Olde
What ARE you talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 Olde<br />
What ARE you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly think that if Kirk and Picard were on the same ship, and Spock&#039;s Brain took over the holodeck, then Kirk and Picard would team up to fight the bizarre menaces that would pop up (giving us many opportunities for clever dialog between the two captains).  

Finally, in the end, Spock&#039;s brain would sacrifice itself when it remembered who Kirk was.

Kirk: &quot;He was..my friend.  Or, part of him anyway.&quot;

Picard: &quot;I had a friend just like him.  But he was a robot.&quot;

Kirk: &quot;That pasty-faced bucket of bolts was your friend??  He must have been a bunch of laughs.&quot;

Picard: &quot;Not really...well, there was this one time when he tried to learn to laugh...&quot;

CUT TO:

The Enterprise flies away, off into space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly think that if Kirk and Picard were on the same ship, and Spock&#8217;s Brain took over the holodeck, then Kirk and Picard would team up to fight the bizarre menaces that would pop up (giving us many opportunities for clever dialog between the two captains).  </p>
<p>Finally, in the end, Spock&#8217;s brain would sacrifice itself when it remembered who Kirk was.</p>
<p>Kirk: &#8220;He was..my friend.  Or, part of him anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>Picard: &#8220;I had a friend just like him.  But he was a robot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kirk: &#8220;That pasty-faced bucket of bolts was your friend??  He must have been a bunch of laughs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Picard: &#8220;Not really&#8230;well, there was this one time when he tried to learn to laugh&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>CUT TO:</p>
<p>The Enterprise flies away, off into space.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t even think of anything to say that doesn&#039;t sound snarky. This is such a &quot;Mary Sue&quot; / Look at the Geeks! idea. Real &quot;fans&quot; aren&#039;t interested in this kind of thing. Good Grief, what&#039;s next? Another installment of &quot;Trekkies&quot; with cross dressing Klingons? We&#039;re not all pimply mouth-breathers living in our parents basements.

Besides, Kirk would kick Picards @ss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even think of anything to say that doesn&#8217;t sound snarky. This is such a &#8220;Mary Sue&#8221; / Look at the Geeks! idea. Real &#8220;fans&#8221; aren&#8217;t interested in this kind of thing. Good Grief, what&#8217;s next? Another installment of &#8220;Trekkies&#8221; with cross dressing Klingons? We&#8217;re not all pimply mouth-breathers living in our parents basements.</p>
<p>Besides, Kirk would kick Picards @ss!</p>
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		<title>By: Olde Timey Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olde Timey Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^23

Jeff ...  likes books three

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^23</p>
<p>Jeff &#8230;  likes books three</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Olde Timey Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olde Timey Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^21

Shaye... likes books too.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^21</p>
<p>Shaye&#8230; likes books too.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Olde Timey Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olde Timey Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANTHONY!  YOU GOOFED!

What about &quot;Star Trek The New Voyages&quot; from 1976 -- which I own and read before you were born!!!

Geese, wazzamadda wit kids today?!

http://trekkieguy.com/bb1976_01.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANTHONY!  YOU GOOFED!</p>
<p>What about &#8220;Star Trek The New Voyages&#8221; from 1976 &#8212; which I own and read before you were born!!!</p>
<p>Geese, wazzamadda wit kids today?!</p>
<p><a href="http://trekkieguy.com/bb1976_01.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://trekkieguy.com/bb1976_01.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 Steve F
  You are right. 
  First, this wouldn&#039;t happen. Starfleet captains in their right minds with the right information do not battle, especially physically.
But....
It would be an interesting exercise to see them in command working tactically against each other on equally equipped starships. Gambits and bluffs, wits and knowledge..... who would win?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 Steve F<br />
  You are right.<br />
  First, this wouldn&#8217;t happen. Starfleet captains in their right minds with the right information do not battle, especially physically.<br />
But&#8230;.<br />
It would be an interesting exercise to see them in command working tactically against each other on equally equipped starships. Gambits and bluffs, wits and knowledge&#8230;.. who would win?</p>
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