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	<title>Comments on: Roberto Orci Talks &#8216;Star Trek&#8217; and Fandom with TrekMovie.com</title>
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		<title>By: Akira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each movie came with  cast everyone was already familiar with and for the most part excepted. I think it will be tough to pull this off with a brand new crew, captain and ship. Tough, but not impossible. I wish the directors a lot of luck. They&#039;ll need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each movie came with  cast everyone was already familiar with and for the most part excepted. I think it will be tough to pull this off with a brand new crew, captain and ship. Tough, but not impossible. I wish the directors a lot of luck. They&#8217;ll need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Trek Starts? Yuk. Star Trek: The Rise of Kirk. (or, in Bermanesque &quot;Kirkrise&quot;) 

Star Trek.

One the one hand, it says to me that it is Star Trek, the old way. It says to me, this is a beginning story, and origin for something familiar. So I like it for that.

On the other hand, we have a LOT of Star Trek out there. Yes, I agree, very confusing, and what then of the next movie?

Here are some other thoughts... When I watched it as a child, the computers were incredible. As I watch it today, the computers are relics. Enterprise did try to remain balanced, but the technology already outstrips even that series in many ways.

New actors playing known characters? I grew up with Doctor Who. Not so much a problem. Is the story good? Do I laugh? Do I cry? Do I get so involved with the characters I don&#039;t care about the FX? 

In a universe as detailed and full as the Star Trek Universe, there are still countless stories to tell. I have enjoyed the stories told so far. I look forward to the next. I hope for more after that. 

For those who say we had &quot;too much Trek&quot; when there were two series and the movies I can only ask, did you watch them? I did. I would have watched more. How many CSI&#039;s and Law and Order&#039;s are there? (Too many for me, since I don&#039;t like the genre). 

I would still love to see Captain Sulu adventures. The little taste we got on Voyager thrilled me, but I want more. How about some interesting twists? The Return of Christopher Pike is one I always wanted to see. I would also love to see Captain Ryker in action. Or how about a series based in the far future, where the Time War rages and everything can change in an instant. When do the giant multi-limbed beings from Andromeda arrive? What would happen if Spock became the new Romulan Emperor? Did Chekov ever become a starship captain? 

Ok, I digress... no point intended. I love SF in general. Star Trek has been fun. I tolerate the complaints, but I really do not understand most of them. Are you worried there will never be another Trek movie if this one fails? Look around you. Too much history, too many fans, too much potential. If this one fails, there will be another. And another. People who love it will keep trying, won&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek Starts? Yuk. Star Trek: The Rise of Kirk. (or, in Bermanesque &#8220;Kirkrise&#8221;) </p>
<p>Star Trek.</p>
<p>One the one hand, it says to me that it is Star Trek, the old way. It says to me, this is a beginning story, and origin for something familiar. So I like it for that.</p>
<p>On the other hand, we have a LOT of Star Trek out there. Yes, I agree, very confusing, and what then of the next movie?</p>
<p>Here are some other thoughts&#8230; When I watched it as a child, the computers were incredible. As I watch it today, the computers are relics. Enterprise did try to remain balanced, but the technology already outstrips even that series in many ways.</p>
<p>New actors playing known characters? I grew up with Doctor Who. Not so much a problem. Is the story good? Do I laugh? Do I cry? Do I get so involved with the characters I don&#8217;t care about the FX? </p>
<p>In a universe as detailed and full as the Star Trek Universe, there are still countless stories to tell. I have enjoyed the stories told so far. I look forward to the next. I hope for more after that. </p>
<p>For those who say we had &#8220;too much Trek&#8221; when there were two series and the movies I can only ask, did you watch them? I did. I would have watched more. How many CSI&#8217;s and Law and Order&#8217;s are there? (Too many for me, since I don&#8217;t like the genre). </p>
<p>I would still love to see Captain Sulu adventures. The little taste we got on Voyager thrilled me, but I want more. How about some interesting twists? The Return of Christopher Pike is one I always wanted to see. I would also love to see Captain Ryker in action. Or how about a series based in the far future, where the Time War rages and everything can change in an instant. When do the giant multi-limbed beings from Andromeda arrive? What would happen if Spock became the new Romulan Emperor? Did Chekov ever become a starship captain? </p>
<p>Ok, I digress&#8230; no point intended. I love SF in general. Star Trek has been fun. I tolerate the complaints, but I really do not understand most of them. Are you worried there will never be another Trek movie if this one fails? Look around you. Too much history, too many fans, too much potential. If this one fails, there will be another. And another. People who love it will keep trying, won&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#85 You&#039;re right Stanky! With a monicker like Harry Ballz who am I to talk??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#85 You&#8217;re right Stanky! With a monicker like Harry Ballz who am I to talk??</p>
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		<title>By: Stanky McFibberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanky McFibberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>84. Harry
Having fun with the rhymability of my name? Shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>84. Harry<br />
Having fun with the rhymability of my name? Shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Stanky needs a spanky? Or Stanky can be cranky? Or Stanky&#039;s blunt, but not skanky? Or Skanky&#039;s into hanky-panky? The list goes on.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Stanky needs a spanky? Or Stanky can be cranky? Or Stanky&#8217;s blunt, but not skanky? Or Skanky&#8217;s into hanky-panky? The list goes on&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82 Stanky

Then I admire your... restraint. I still think you need to add a short, concise comment to your handle.
But that&#039;s your baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82 Stanky</p>
<p>Then I admire your&#8230; restraint. I still think you need to add a short, concise comment to your handle.<br />
But that&#8217;s your baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanky McFibberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanky McFibberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 81

Well, I have tried hard of late  to avoid directly restating my position regarding the idea of having characters from the series being portrayed by new actors.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s hard not to read that into anything I write, but you should realize the vast number of times I have been able to &quot;bite my tongue.&quot; :)

I suppose somewhere deep down inside, I have some kind of hope that this will turn out to be something I will like, but I have absolutely no confidence in that happening.  Time will tell.</description>
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<p>Well, I have tried hard of late  to avoid directly restating my position regarding the idea of having characters from the series being portrayed by new actors.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s hard not to read that into anything I write, but you should realize the vast number of times I have been able to &#8220;bite my tongue.&#8221; :)</p>
<p>I suppose somewhere deep down inside, I have some kind of hope that this will turn out to be something I will like, but I have absolutely no confidence in that happening.  Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#77 Stanky..


 Funny that I just complimented you in a different thread.
My only complaint with the closed-minded point of view you are speaking of is that it is repeated ... often. I say that in friendly and respectful terms, dear friend.

X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#77 Stanky..</p>
<p> Funny that I just complimented you in a different thread.<br />
My only complaint with the closed-minded point of view you are speaking of is that it is repeated &#8230; often. I say that in friendly and respectful terms, dear friend.</p>
<p>X</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>79. Cygnus-X1 - June 19, 2007  - Well said on the budget! Trek ironicaly was most succesful when it was on a small budget, 11mil would gross 80 or 90 mill, the TNG movies grossed over 100mil on about 20 - 30mill, but then Nemisis got 60-70 and barely broke even.

Big budgets do not instantly mean big profit, nor does small budget equal crappy film. This movie will be a success probably mainly because of who is creating it and the hype already built up, I am also confident that it will be a good film, that is true to what has been done before, while been different enough to bring new blood to the franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>79. Cygnus-X1 &#8211; June 19, 2007  &#8211; Well said on the budget! Trek ironicaly was most succesful when it was on a small budget, 11mil would gross 80 or 90 mill, the TNG movies grossed over 100mil on about 20 &#8211; 30mill, but then Nemisis got 60-70 and barely broke even.</p>
<p>Big budgets do not instantly mean big profit, nor does small budget equal crappy film. This movie will be a success probably mainly because of who is creating it and the hype already built up, I am also confident that it will be a good film, that is true to what has been done before, while been different enough to bring new blood to the franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: Cygnus-X1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cygnus-X1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What struck me most in this article was Robert Orci&#039;s regretful tone regarding  the excessive &quot;mindless action&quot; in Transformers and M:I:III, as though the blocking, setting-up, and filming of those costly, time-consuming action sequences happens more or less by inertia. 

&quot;Oh, man, I&#039;m sooo burned out...I don&#039;t care any more...just arrange for a bunch of cars to chase our star through the streets at high speeds, and rig everything to be shot upon, blown up and incinerated...I can&#039;t be bothered to think up some compelling drama, philosophical premise or psychologically thrilling plot twist...just blow everything up, and let&#039;s call it a day, shall we?&quot;

How many times do we have to tell these people that a good idea is as thrilling as hundred special FX, a thousand action scenes and will pack the punch of a hundred million $ in the budget, if not more? Case in point: our far-and-away favorite, TWOK, which had a budget of $11. It wasn&#039;t the special effects and action that we loved most about TWOK; it was the story, theme, drama, acting and dialogue. And, there was just enough action and special FX in there to draw us in, and keep us in anticipation.

Christ Almighty, I feel like someone who&#039;s complaining to his shrink that all I ever really wanted from my Dad was for him to spend more time with me, but what I usually got, in lieu of quality time, was expensive presents.

At any rate...please, Orci &amp; Kurtzman....please, at least, strive for a good story, with FX and action in supporting roles, or, even, as the icing on the cake. Telling a story is, after all, the main purpose of your film. 

As for the title, I&#039;m not crazy about &quot;Star Trek.&quot; It might be alright, but, what it conveys to me is a lack of imagination, or, that they&#039;re trying to somewhat divorce this film from the previous 10, as though they&#039;re starting from scratch...kinda. 

&quot;Star Trek: Sophisticated, Career-Oriented Divorcées in Space&quot;

&quot;Star Trek: Abortion Averted&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What struck me most in this article was Robert Orci&#8217;s regretful tone regarding  the excessive &#8220;mindless action&#8221; in Transformers and M:I:III, as though the blocking, setting-up, and filming of those costly, time-consuming action sequences happens more or less by inertia. </p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, man, I&#8217;m sooo burned out&#8230;I don&#8217;t care any more&#8230;just arrange for a bunch of cars to chase our star through the streets at high speeds, and rig everything to be shot upon, blown up and incinerated&#8230;I can&#8217;t be bothered to think up some compelling drama, philosophical premise or psychologically thrilling plot twist&#8230;just blow everything up, and let&#8217;s call it a day, shall we?&#8221;</p>
<p>How many times do we have to tell these people that a good idea is as thrilling as hundred special FX, a thousand action scenes and will pack the punch of a hundred million $ in the budget, if not more? Case in point: our far-and-away favorite, TWOK, which had a budget of $11. It wasn&#8217;t the special effects and action that we loved most about TWOK; it was the story, theme, drama, acting and dialogue. And, there was just enough action and special FX in there to draw us in, and keep us in anticipation.</p>
<p>Christ Almighty, I feel like someone who&#8217;s complaining to his shrink that all I ever really wanted from my Dad was for him to spend more time with me, but what I usually got, in lieu of quality time, was expensive presents.</p>
<p>At any rate&#8230;please, Orci &amp; Kurtzman&#8230;.please, at least, strive for a good story, with FX and action in supporting roles, or, even, as the icing on the cake. Telling a story is, after all, the main purpose of your film. </p>
<p>As for the title, I&#8217;m not crazy about &#8220;Star Trek.&#8221; It might be alright, but, what it conveys to me is a lack of imagination, or, that they&#8217;re trying to somewhat divorce this film from the previous 10, as though they&#8217;re starting from scratch&#8230;kinda. </p>
<p>&#8220;Star Trek: Sophisticated, Career-Oriented Divorcées in Space&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Star Trek: Abortion Averted&#8221;</p>
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