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	<title>Comments on: Orci: New &#8216;Star Trek&#8217; Film To Bring In New Generation &#8211; May Lead to New Trek on TV</title>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, it seems this has gone down a few pointless paths. 

1. Constantly screaming for answers about what the movie is about, will not do any good, why? Because they want to create a mystery around this movie, so that it will hav the effect of making people want to see it to find out what all the hype is (very clever ploy). Two, who are we to demand answers? Are we putting in the long hours of creating this thing? No we are not.

2. Re: the aliens in the alter series, the only time the Tholians (for example) were mentioned in the TNG era was one episode of DS9 when the war was about to begin, (they signed a non-aggresion treaty), as for alot of other TOS aliens, barely a mention was made of any of them, ENT showed the evolution of those aliens into Earth Allies, of Foes. Lets treat the Xindi in the same way, they came they saw, they got their buts kicked and moved on.

Trek is just a show and should be enjoyed as such, I am sick to death of hearing about William Shatner wanting to be in it, for pitty sake, move on, maybe the days of the &quot;shat&quot; are truly over, maybe he will be in it who knows! I said a few posts back, have patience and wait and see, and just enjoy the movie for what it will probably be, an expansion of the Trek Universe, and to those who don&#039;t &quot;recognise&quot; anything beyond TOS, good for you, that&#039;s your opinion and we are all entitled to it, but some seem fit to use foul language and insults to express this view and as far as I am concerned that is not on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, it seems this has gone down a few pointless paths. </p>
<p>1. Constantly screaming for answers about what the movie is about, will not do any good, why? Because they want to create a mystery around this movie, so that it will hav the effect of making people want to see it to find out what all the hype is (very clever ploy). Two, who are we to demand answers? Are we putting in the long hours of creating this thing? No we are not.</p>
<p>2. Re: the aliens in the alter series, the only time the Tholians (for example) were mentioned in the TNG era was one episode of DS9 when the war was about to begin, (they signed a non-aggresion treaty), as for alot of other TOS aliens, barely a mention was made of any of them, ENT showed the evolution of those aliens into Earth Allies, of Foes. Lets treat the Xindi in the same way, they came they saw, they got their buts kicked and moved on.</p>
<p>Trek is just a show and should be enjoyed as such, I am sick to death of hearing about William Shatner wanting to be in it, for pitty sake, move on, maybe the days of the &#8220;shat&#8221; are truly over, maybe he will be in it who knows! I said a few posts back, have patience and wait and see, and just enjoy the movie for what it will probably be, an expansion of the Trek Universe, and to those who don&#8217;t &#8220;recognise&#8221; anything beyond TOS, good for you, that&#8217;s your opinion and we are all entitled to it, but some seem fit to use foul language and insults to express this view and as far as I am concerned that is not on.</p>
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		<title>By: Syöppö</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syöppö</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope they make intresting story for XI and if there will be new Trek series and i hope it will continue Trek to its new era like TNG was to the TOS

heh there arent so many Trek fans in Finland and still im hoping our channels will show some Enterprise episodes or do he have to buy those expensive DVD boxes :)



Syöppö</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope they make intresting story for XI and if there will be new Trek series and i hope it will continue Trek to its new era like TNG was to the TOS</p>
<p>heh there arent so many Trek fans in Finland and still im hoping our channels will show some Enterprise episodes or do he have to buy those expensive DVD boxes :)</p>
<p>Syöppö</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Rosenzweig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Rosenzweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few thoughts here...

I completely disagree that the many Star Trek stories, and series, have lost track of what Star Trek is about. I think they have all served the overall story of Star Trek. I argue that Star Trek, at its core, is a story about Humanity, and Humanity&#039;s potentials, especially our potential to overcome our differences, learn to delight in them rather than fight over them, and reach out into the future with hope and excitement, rather than fear and despair. That story was played out in microcosm on the bridge of the starship Enterprise, on its five-year mission, with its multi-racial, multicultural crew. As Star Trek continued into the other series, that story grew, with new episodes and new characters and new tales, but I still believe that, even if it wasn&#039;t always told well, all the Star Trek series have still continued to tell that basic story, just against a larger canvas. Do I think it&#039;s an interesting choice to try to get back to that core story? Perhaps so, especially since so many people seem not to realize that it was never really lost, and the movie does seem to be an attempt to recapture the soul of the concept by going back to its core, which is, of course, Classic Trek.

And based on what they&#039;re saying, I can&#039;t see at this point how anyone could interpret it to mean that they&#039;re rebooting it in any way other than restarting a computer. Orci seems to be indicating that they went to considerable lengths to tell their story within the overall established Trekverse, even while they suggest that they&#039;ll modernize the &quot;tone&quot; somewhat, which isn&#039;t the same thing as throwing away the continuity. ;)  (I must admit to being intrigued by the whole zebra analogy in the IGN interview, though.)

&#039;Course, what can I say? I&#039;m a fan of not any one series, but of the entire Trekverse, and all 12 (so far) &quot;official&quot; Trek series, and not even counting the potentially hundreds or thouands more for which there&#039;s room. I don&#039;t have a problem with them exploring the roots of Star Trek and getting &quot;back to basics&quot;, if they have a story best served by doing so. Here&#039;s hoping it all works out!

Best,
Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few thoughts here&#8230;</p>
<p>I completely disagree that the many Star Trek stories, and series, have lost track of what Star Trek is about. I think they have all served the overall story of Star Trek. I argue that Star Trek, at its core, is a story about Humanity, and Humanity&#8217;s potentials, especially our potential to overcome our differences, learn to delight in them rather than fight over them, and reach out into the future with hope and excitement, rather than fear and despair. That story was played out in microcosm on the bridge of the starship Enterprise, on its five-year mission, with its multi-racial, multicultural crew. As Star Trek continued into the other series, that story grew, with new episodes and new characters and new tales, but I still believe that, even if it wasn&#8217;t always told well, all the Star Trek series have still continued to tell that basic story, just against a larger canvas. Do I think it&#8217;s an interesting choice to try to get back to that core story? Perhaps so, especially since so many people seem not to realize that it was never really lost, and the movie does seem to be an attempt to recapture the soul of the concept by going back to its core, which is, of course, Classic Trek.</p>
<p>And based on what they&#8217;re saying, I can&#8217;t see at this point how anyone could interpret it to mean that they&#8217;re rebooting it in any way other than restarting a computer. Orci seems to be indicating that they went to considerable lengths to tell their story within the overall established Trekverse, even while they suggest that they&#8217;ll modernize the &#8220;tone&#8221; somewhat, which isn&#8217;t the same thing as throwing away the continuity. ;)  (I must admit to being intrigued by the whole zebra analogy in the IGN interview, though.)</p>
<p>&#8216;Course, what can I say? I&#8217;m a fan of not any one series, but of the entire Trekverse, and all 12 (so far) &#8220;official&#8221; Trek series, and not even counting the potentially hundreds or thouands more for which there&#8217;s room. I don&#8217;t have a problem with them exploring the roots of Star Trek and getting &#8220;back to basics&#8221;, if they have a story best served by doing so. Here&#8217;s hoping it all works out!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Alex</p>
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		<title>By: thx-1138</title>
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		<dc:creator>thx-1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, I hate you.  (joke)

Reboot and reboot.  What is reboot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, I hate you.  (joke)</p>
<p>Reboot and reboot.  What is reboot?</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 Kyle,

Repeatedly stating you want answers to your questions about a reboot when you know dam well it&#039;s not going to happen doesn&#039;t get you on the hate list... but it could be considered annoying.
We all want information, but that comes at it&#039;s own pace and I know Anthony and Co. work hard to find out what&#039;s going on.

And David.... that&#039;s as creative as it gets, your honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 Kyle,</p>
<p>Repeatedly stating you want answers to your questions about a reboot when you know dam well it&#8217;s not going to happen doesn&#8217;t get you on the hate list&#8230; but it could be considered annoying.<br />
We all want information, but that comes at it&#8217;s own pace and I know Anthony and Co. work hard to find out what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>And David&#8230;. that&#8217;s as creative as it gets, your honor.</p>
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		<title>By: Hon. David Kulessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hon. David Kulessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75

Yeah, I know why. But it&#039;s still annoying. Like, nearly every single episode has Archer and Tucker saying something mean and chuckling, and T&#039;Pol does her &quot;i&#039;m not impressed&quot; look, and walks out of his ready room. WITHOUT FAIL.

They could have at least been creative about it.
-TGP-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#75</p>
<p>Yeah, I know why. But it&#8217;s still annoying. Like, nearly every single episode has Archer and Tucker saying something mean and chuckling, and T&#8217;Pol does her &#8220;i&#8217;m not impressed&#8221; look, and walks out of his ready room. WITHOUT FAIL.</p>
<p>They could have at least been creative about it.<br />
-TGP-</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Nin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Nin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found out why I don&#039;t like to post comments on this site.

Everyone goes out of their way to hate me.

And no one ever answers my questions.

REBOOT REBOOT REBOOT

#80:  &quot;Amen and I hope that’s the capper to the “R-word” in here.&quot;

I guess not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found out why I don&#8217;t like to post comments on this site.</p>
<p>Everyone goes out of their way to hate me.</p>
<p>And no one ever answers my questions.</p>
<p>REBOOT REBOOT REBOOT</p>
<p>#80:  &#8220;Amen and I hope that’s the capper to the “R-word” in here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess not.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79 Anthony

Amen and I hope that&#039;s the capper to the &quot;R-word&quot; in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79 Anthony</p>
<p>Amen and I hope that&#8217;s the capper to the &#8220;R-word&#8221; in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is pointless because 
a. it is not a &#039;reboot&#039;
b. if it were a reboot it could still be good (Casino Royale, Batman Begins)

the movie will be good or bad based on the quality of the film making, not the level of adherence to dogma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is pointless because<br />
a. it is not a &#8216;reboot&#8217;<br />
b. if it were a reboot it could still be good (Casino Royale, Batman Begins)</p>
<p>the movie will be good or bad based on the quality of the film making, not the level of adherence to dogma.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Nin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Nin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#77:

I read your comment #60.  I just don&#039;t agree with it.  I WANT to be excited about the movie.  But the way they&#039;re talking about it, I just can&#039;t be.  Instead of my interest level going up, they are making me have the opposite reaction.  I&#039;m becoming less and less interested in new Trek.

So, it&#039;s starting to not bother me that I may not see the movie.  And that&#039;s sad.  Really it is.

I think I may turn into more of a Star Wars fan than a Trek fan.  Hmm, maybe I won&#039;t go THAT far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#77:</p>
<p>I read your comment #60.  I just don&#8217;t agree with it.  I WANT to be excited about the movie.  But the way they&#8217;re talking about it, I just can&#8217;t be.  Instead of my interest level going up, they are making me have the opposite reaction.  I&#8217;m becoming less and less interested in new Trek.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s starting to not bother me that I may not see the movie.  And that&#8217;s sad.  Really it is.</p>
<p>I think I may turn into more of a Star Wars fan than a Trek fan.  Hmm, maybe I won&#8217;t go THAT far.</p>
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