Comments on: ILM To Provide Effects For ‘Star Trek’ – Enterprise To Appear In Film http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/ the source for Star Trek news and information Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:42:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: who cares anyway http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-5/#comment-1404927 who cares anyway Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:29:02 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-1404927 If they changed the hallways, I would have accepted it. If they changed the bridge, I would have not liked it, but I would probably see the movie. The exterior of the New Enterprise is nothing like the old ship. I am an old Trekkie, and the new Star Trek has lost me. They kept the dorky uniforms and destroyed my favorite starship. Live long and Prosper. Without me. If they changed the hallways, I would have accepted it.

If they changed the bridge, I would have not liked it, but I would probably see the movie.

The exterior of the New Enterprise is nothing like the old ship.

I am an old Trekkie, and the new Star Trek has lost me.

They kept the dorky uniforms and destroyed my favorite starship.

Live long and Prosper. Without me.

]]> By: Jon http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-5/#comment-1155923 Jon Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:35:52 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-1155923 Hey all, Now 25 years old and I grew up on the Next Generation and DS9 as my base for Star Trek and not TOS. All my friends watched it and my younger brother and his friends grew up with Voyager and Enterprise. To expect the fans of these newer more tech savvy shows will accept the classic image is unrealistic. Personally if the ship looked like it did in the old series I would laugh at how corny it is and it would ruin the movie for me. The original really does look like something from the 60's and just wont make the cut. Now that the actual pictures are up for the new ship I am nothing short of amazed at how it looks, and it still holds true to the older build. I agree with the view that it is just the way it was always intended to look, just not possible to create all those years ago. People like D Talada prove time and time again that change is hard on older fans. You spit at the new design like its nothing, but frankly they kept the original fans in the loop just as much as going for the new ones (the people that will make Trek fresh and new again) by leaving the general shape and dimensions of the ship true to the original. This also brings to mind all the talk of the show Enterprise being terrible and no good and not true to how things were... I watched it, and loved it. Things must change to be successful. To fight it every step of the way is an a sure loser before you fire the first shot. So from a younger fan, I think this is the way to go, and I am very excited to see where this film leads for the future of something I grew up with. Hey all,

Now 25 years old and I grew up on the Next Generation and DS9 as my base for Star Trek and not TOS. All my friends watched it and my younger brother and his friends grew up with Voyager and Enterprise. To expect the fans of these newer more tech savvy shows will accept the classic image is unrealistic. Personally if the ship looked like it did in the old series I would laugh at how corny it is and it would ruin the movie for me. The original really does look like something from the 60’s and just wont make the cut.

Now that the actual pictures are up for the new ship I am nothing short of amazed at how it looks, and it still holds true to the older build. I agree with the view that it is just the way it was always intended to look, just not possible to create all those years ago.

People like D Talada prove time and time again that change is hard on older fans. You spit at the new design like its nothing, but frankly they kept the original fans in the loop just as much as going for the new ones (the people that will make Trek fresh and new again) by leaving the general shape and dimensions of the ship true to the original.

This also brings to mind all the talk of the show Enterprise being terrible and no good and not true to how things were… I watched it, and loved it. Things must change to be successful. To fight it every step of the way is an a sure loser before you fire the first shot.

So from a younger fan, I think this is the way to go, and I am very excited to see where this film leads for the future of something I grew up with.

]]> By: D Talada http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-1078863 D Talada Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:14:58 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-1078863 I don't believe in any of the "Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek Babies" shows that started with gimmicky TNG and the bald guy with the redundant co-captain......but if NCC-1701 was going to be up on the screen with the round warp nacelles, I would be absolutely thrilled to watch a bunch of non-Kirk/Spock/Bones/Scotties playing Kirk/Spock/Bones/Scotty just to see the Greatest Fictional Space Vehicle In History on the big screen!! Now I've seen pictures of it .....I'm not going. I don’t believe in any of the “Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek Babies” shows that started with gimmicky TNG and the bald guy with the redundant co-captain……but if NCC-1701 was going to be up on the screen with the round warp nacelles, I would be absolutely thrilled to watch a bunch of non-Kirk/Spock/Bones/Scotties playing Kirk/Spock/Bones/Scotty just to see the Greatest Fictional Space Vehicle In History on the big screen!!
Now I’ve seen pictures of it …..I’m not going.

]]> By: Roger http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-667189 Roger Sat, 17 May 2008 20:32:58 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-667189 If the STAR TREK franchise wants to attract a newer/younger audience without alianating the already established fans, why not just create film projects with future story lines..."GOING WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE"? It seems simple enough to me. It frees everyone up to explore and expand the limits of their own creativity WITHOUT tampering with much-beloved and iconic characters, items, and images. Write, design, CREATE something new for ALL the fans to enjoy without "reimagining" what others have already done. It's called "ORIGINALITY"...the basis for the most enduring successes in the entertainment industry. Gene Roddenberry had it. I'm sure there must be at least a few screenwriters out there who also have it. For the future of the STAR TREK franchise, I certainly hope so. If the STAR TREK franchise wants to attract a newer/younger audience without alianating the already established fans, why not just create film projects with future story lines…”GOING WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE”? It seems simple enough to me. It frees everyone up to explore and expand the limits of their own creativity WITHOUT tampering with much-beloved and iconic characters, items, and images. Write, design, CREATE something new for ALL the fans to enjoy without “reimagining” what others have already done. It’s called “ORIGINALITY”…the basis for the most enduring successes in the entertainment industry. Gene Roddenberry had it. I’m sure there must be at least a few screenwriters out there who also have it. For the future of the STAR TREK franchise, I certainly hope so.

]]> By: GARY http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-408518 GARY Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:40:55 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-408518 OH GAWD!!! OH GAWD!!!

]]> By: Leo Star Dragon 1. http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-239924 Leo Star Dragon 1. Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:57:39 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-239924 I get through all of that just to make a post about how wrong the writer was, only to see that "Jordon" beat me to the correction! It was a funny scene too. William Shatner's character is on the Moon base, peering through a periscope, when he see's the sight gag of the classic iconic starship instead of what he was expecting to see! Funny reaction! It made me wonder if they played a prank on him for real and he managed to stay in character, so they used it. By the way, to beat someone else to it, William was credited as "Captain James Tiberious Kirk" in the movie, "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey". Anyway, as for the new design of the ENTERPISE, unless it turns out to be a flashback movie in the end after all, because it is a prequel movie, she should not look like she has appeared before, not even in "The Cage", for it should have been refitt at least a few times since Launch One! If you remember, Spock even tried to use chemical rockets to blast out of orbit, as the very last resort, but even they failed to work! They also used paper printouts in that episode as "hard copy". The paper was like that used in calculators and cash resgisters. Captain Pike had a hat for his uniform, but never wore it on screen. The hand-held communicators had transparent casings. The hand-held weapons were lasers not phasers. (Unless the new digital version has the words dubbed over?) I've yet to see an official canon explanation for why tech trends go up and down. In Archer's era they use disks, yet by Pike's & Kirk's, they've reverted to tapes. Of course in Picard's era, et al, they use chips. A logical ship design, getting back on course, would set up a look that shows how she evolved up to the point as seen in "The Cage". Ignoring that would be a "retcon" that would set up the debate about it being an alternate reality or timeline. It's bad enough they went with a new cast for the younger versions rather than CGI. So I expect a good make-up job at least. I get through all of that just to make a post about how wrong the writer was, only to see that “Jordon” beat me to the correction! It was a funny scene too. William Shatner’s character is on the Moon base, peering through a periscope, when he see’s the sight gag of the classic iconic starship instead of what he was expecting to see! Funny reaction! It made me wonder if they played a prank on him for real and he managed to stay in character, so they used it. By the way, to beat someone else to it, William was credited as “Captain James Tiberious Kirk” in the movie, “Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey”. Anyway, as for the new design of the ENTERPISE, unless it turns out to be a flashback movie in the end after all, because it is a prequel movie, she should not look like she has appeared before, not even in “The Cage”, for it should have been refitt at least a few times since Launch One! If you remember, Spock even tried to use chemical rockets to blast out of orbit, as the very last resort, but even they failed to work! They also used paper printouts in that episode as “hard copy”. The paper was like that used in calculators and cash resgisters. Captain Pike had a hat for his uniform, but never wore it on screen. The hand-held communicators had transparent casings. The hand-held weapons were lasers not phasers. (Unless the new digital version has the words dubbed over?) I’ve yet to see an official canon explanation for why tech trends go up and down. In Archer’s era they use disks, yet by Pike’s & Kirk’s, they’ve reverted to tapes. Of course in Picard’s era, et al, they use chips. A logical ship design, getting back on course, would set up a look that shows how she evolved up to the point as seen in “The Cage”. Ignoring that would be a “retcon” that would set up the debate about it being an alternate reality or timeline. It’s bad enough they went with a new cast for the younger versions rather than CGI. So I expect a good make-up job at least.

]]> By: Will Doe 68 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-216482 Will Doe 68 Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:36:32 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-216482 The design of this new film,is one the things thats really been eating at me, I found these surfing around. Check em out. There credited to a Dennis Bailey, I think they tweak the original just prefect . Without getting to far away from it. http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8679/entmod2vj3wb1.jpg http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4180/enterpriserendersdc0xj1.jpg The design of this new film,is one the things thats really been eating at me,
I found these surfing around. Check em out.
There credited to a Dennis Bailey, I think they tweak the original just prefect .
Without getting to far away from it.
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8679/entmod2vj3wb1.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4180/enterpriserendersdc0xj1.jpg

]]> By: Vince http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-213718 Vince Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:02:54 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-213718 Wow...it just occurred to me... Before reading this post, I felt the same way most of you guys probably still feel; I was worried about the look and feel of the classic "Starship Enterprise", and the overall feel of the new Trek Movie. While reading comments posted by Joe, I found myself agreeing with everything he said. The way fans feel about the Enterprise, and all of TREK XI, for that matter, is the same way that Kirk felt about peace with the Klingons in "The Undiscovered Country."To quote the Klingon Chancellor Gorkon, "If there is to be a bright new future, our generation will have the hardest time living in it." The same applies to us, the generation who grew up loving the Original Series, and all the cheesy 1960's special effects and overacting that came with it. The point is, for the sake of Star Trek's survival, we have to move on. Star Trek is about Revolution, it's about Change; it makes me feel good to know that Trek is revolutionary again, because that shows me that Trek is, for the first time in a long time, "Boldly going where no one has gone before." Wow…it just occurred to me…
Before reading this post, I felt the same way most of you guys probably still feel; I was worried about the look and feel of the classic “Starship Enterprise”, and the overall feel of the new Trek Movie. While reading comments posted by Joe, I found myself agreeing with everything he said. The way fans feel about the Enterprise, and all of TREK XI, for that matter, is the same way that Kirk felt about peace with the Klingons in “The Undiscovered Country.”To quote the Klingon Chancellor Gorkon, “If there is to be a bright new future, our generation will have the hardest time living in it.” The same applies to us, the generation who grew up loving the Original Series, and all the cheesy 1960’s special effects and overacting that came with it. The point is, for the sake of Star Trek’s survival, we have to move on. Star Trek is about Revolution, it’s about Change; it makes me feel good to know that Trek is revolutionary again, because that shows me that Trek is, for the first time in a long time, “Boldly going where no one has gone before.”

]]> By: John Doe http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-185611 John Doe Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:21:11 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-185611 ILM effects looked stupid in trek II, III etc... They should have gone with CBS-digital for the movie, if they wanted real photo real quality effects ILM effects looked stupid in trek II, III etc… They should have gone with CBS-digital for the movie, if they wanted real photo real quality effects

]]> By: Jordan http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/comment-page-4/#comment-156449 Jordan Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:16:09 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/#comment-156449 But the original Enterprise appeared in a 1982 Paramount movie, Airplane II: The Sequel. But the original Enterprise appeared in a 1982 Paramount movie, Airplane II: The Sequel.

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