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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr. Atos</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/20/kissing-goodbye-to-shatner-as-kirk/comment-page-2/#comment-166245</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Atos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever the new Kirk is, you gotta hope he will have better aim that Shatner, who planted just about every kiss in this video firmly on his partners chin. Gotta love that 60&#039;s censorship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever the new Kirk is, you gotta hope he will have better aim that Shatner, who planted just about every kiss in this video firmly on his partners chin. Gotta love that 60&#8217;s censorship!</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50 billg - Come on, people, how would you cast Shatner as Kirk?

See my #28 post to find out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50 billg &#8211; Come on, people, how would you cast Shatner as Kirk?</p>
<p>See my #28 post to find out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47 THX-1138

Nicely put...especially the last four words.   ;)</description>
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<p>Nicely put&#8230;especially the last four words.   ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow6283</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadow6283</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#70-


We&#039;ll see, won&#039;t we?</description>
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<p>We&#8217;ll see, won&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Stanky McFibberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanky McFibberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 79

I repeat: Shatner is Kirk, Kirk is Shatner.  The same for all the series characters.

&quot;Since Kirk died when the character was middle aged, how can Kirk-as-an-old-man credibly show up in the new movie without resorting to hocus-pocus?&quot;

It&#039;s Science Fiction, that&#039;s how.  If you can believe Spock can have his noggin refilled with his Katra, it shouldn&#039;t be that tough.

Preferably, they don&#039;t explain it at all, if they use him in the movie.  Anything after Star Trek VI is not official anyway.  (Actually anything after Star Trek IV in my book)

Have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 79</p>
<p>I repeat: Shatner is Kirk, Kirk is Shatner.  The same for all the series characters.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since Kirk died when the character was middle aged, how can Kirk-as-an-old-man credibly show up in the new movie without resorting to hocus-pocus?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Science Fiction, that&#8217;s how.  If you can believe Spock can have his noggin refilled with his Katra, it shouldn&#8217;t be that tough.</p>
<p>Preferably, they don&#8217;t explain it at all, if they use him in the movie.  Anything after Star Trek VI is not official anyway.  (Actually anything after Star Trek IV in my book)</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79 well said, good presentation of your point.</description>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#70 Shadow
  I&#039;m not clouding the issue and I certainly am not trying to get you to like anything. I don&#039;t understand your position and the rhetoric of your post. That&#039;s WHY I asked the question.  And I don&#039;t understand why you need to be antagonistic.
And for wasting my time telling you what I liked. Possibly I did, but it&#039;s mine to waste and at least I am consistant on where I stand. You didn&#039;t need to read it.
You&#039;ve Trekked  for 40 years...so? We are peers in age and &quot;time served&quot;, but I don&#039;t threaten people because they are doing something I think MAY be wrong on a movie or TV show. Yea, go back to your posts on other threads and tell me you didn&#039;t threaten someone. Or are you saying those were &quot;jokes&quot; now?
You are not required to &quot;build bridges&quot; or like the other Treks shows. I don&#039;t like this being about &quot;sides&quot; or my Trek vs. Yours.  Frankly, I see people posting here that &quot;have Trekked&quot; far less years than you or I that have valid opinions and don&#039;t seem nearly as &quot;in-your-face&quot; about it and do get their point across. If your posts are indicative of the attitude of your  part of the &quot;(un)happy Fleet&quot;, I think I&#039;ll stay planet-side and just enjoy the TV and movies.

X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#70 Shadow<br />
  I&#8217;m not clouding the issue and I certainly am not trying to get you to like anything. I don&#8217;t understand your position and the rhetoric of your post. That&#8217;s WHY I asked the question.  And I don&#8217;t understand why you need to be antagonistic.<br />
And for wasting my time telling you what I liked. Possibly I did, but it&#8217;s mine to waste and at least I am consistant on where I stand. You didn&#8217;t need to read it.<br />
You&#8217;ve Trekked  for 40 years&#8230;so? We are peers in age and &#8220;time served&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t threaten people because they are doing something I think MAY be wrong on a movie or TV show. Yea, go back to your posts on other threads and tell me you didn&#8217;t threaten someone. Or are you saying those were &#8220;jokes&#8221; now?<br />
You are not required to &#8220;build bridges&#8221; or like the other Treks shows. I don&#8217;t like this being about &#8220;sides&#8221; or my Trek vs. Yours.  Frankly, I see people posting here that &#8220;have Trekked&#8221; far less years than you or I that have valid opinions and don&#8217;t seem nearly as &#8220;in-your-face&#8221; about it and do get their point across. If your posts are indicative of the attitude of your  part of the &#8220;(un)happy Fleet&#8221;, I think I&#8217;ll stay planet-side and just enjoy the TV and movies.</p>
<p>X</p>
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		<title>By: billg</title>
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		<dc:creator>billg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51 said:  &quot;No doubt Shatner could do Kirk. He IS Kirk&quot;

Don&#039;t be silly. Shatner is an actor who played Kirk.  Because he&#039;s an old man, the only Kirk he can credibly play is that of a Kik who is also an old man. Since Kirk died when the character was middle aged, how can Kirk-as-an-old-man credibly show up in the new movie without resorting to hocus-pocus?

That&#039;s not the case for Nimoy as Spock. He&#039;s an old man, too, but his physical appearance is much the same as the last time he played Spock.  In that appearance, Spock was well into a dignified and craggy middle age. Putting Nimoy on screen as Spock would not beggar belief.

Shatner can still sound like Kirk, however. I like the of a framing device that has Nimoy-as-Spock listening to the voice of Kirk -- perhaps from a lost recording recently uncovered and delivered to the retired ambassador. I suppose you could even have Shatner appear in a video version of the recording,   so long as he sat behind a desk and they did some didgital magic on his head.

But, the basic notion that Kirk is Star Trek is wrong. If that was the case, none of the other series, none of the other movies, and none of the hundreds of Trek books would exist. Going by the numbers, Kirk makes no appearance in the majority of Trek stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 said:  &#8220;No doubt Shatner could do Kirk. He IS Kirk&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be silly. Shatner is an actor who played Kirk.  Because he&#8217;s an old man, the only Kirk he can credibly play is that of a Kik who is also an old man. Since Kirk died when the character was middle aged, how can Kirk-as-an-old-man credibly show up in the new movie without resorting to hocus-pocus?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the case for Nimoy as Spock. He&#8217;s an old man, too, but his physical appearance is much the same as the last time he played Spock.  In that appearance, Spock was well into a dignified and craggy middle age. Putting Nimoy on screen as Spock would not beggar belief.</p>
<p>Shatner can still sound like Kirk, however. I like the of a framing device that has Nimoy-as-Spock listening to the voice of Kirk &#8212; perhaps from a lost recording recently uncovered and delivered to the retired ambassador. I suppose you could even have Shatner appear in a video version of the recording,   so long as he sat behind a desk and they did some didgital magic on his head.</p>
<p>But, the basic notion that Kirk is Star Trek is wrong. If that was the case, none of the other series, none of the other movies, and none of the hundreds of Trek books would exist. Going by the numbers, Kirk makes no appearance in the majority of Trek stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow6283</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadow6283</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#77-

Really?

We shall see.</description>
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<p>Really?</p>
<p>We shall see.</p>
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