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	<title>Comments on: Nimoy Coy About Part In New &#8216;Star Trek&#8217; &#8211; Shatner Says He Is Not In It [UPDATED]</title>
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		<title>By: DELTRON</title>
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		<dc:creator>DELTRON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is the story line.. Shatner has been included as much as possible in the past, but he ultimately succumb to.. well... scaffolding lol.  They almost had to have Nemoy in the picture from the story-line.  I&#039;m glad the movie did well.  I think with this success there will be another movie, and that&#039;s a good thing.  I think it&#039;s really hard to fit in original cast without being &#039;cheesy&#039;.  Live long and good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is the story line.. Shatner has been included as much as possible in the past, but he ultimately succumb to.. well&#8230; scaffolding lol.  They almost had to have Nemoy in the picture from the story-line.  I&#8217;m glad the movie did well.  I think with this success there will be another movie, and that&#8217;s a good thing.  I think it&#8217;s really hard to fit in original cast without being &#8216;cheesy&#8217;.  Live long and good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shatner and nimoy should be in the new star trek movie because if u were them, wouldnt u want 2 do what u did long ago????They both probably want 2 be an actor all over again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shatner and nimoy should be in the new star trek movie because if u were them, wouldnt u want 2 do what u did long ago????They both probably want 2 be an actor all over again!</p>
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		<title>By: Spock's Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spock's Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Shatner and Nimoy were just kidding around the whole time for the hungry Trek crowd, which is both heartening and kind of sad, since if Nimoy really knows, and can&#039;t say, he should have said it (but this way it&#039;s more fun). I&#039;m glad Shatner brought up the death of Spock in connection with the death of Kirk, but that never means the death of a character, you can do endless stories of a character. They were talking about themselves as the actors of those characters. I&#039;d love to see a movie where they reprise their roles as Kirk and Spock, it&#039;s what we all want, a connection to the past.

What Abrams is undoubtedly trying to do is the most difficult task to be burdened with, where we need to see Kirk and his crew before they were, a sort of reboot, but also a prequel unseen. Enterprise sort of failed at being a prequel, it went on from a promising start (it was actually), to two seasons of incoherent babble, to the last season that was actually what it was originally meant to be.

With J.J. Abrams history, it will be a total disaster for Star Trek. But it all depends on the writers. I&#039;d want Nimoy direct it, he succeeded well with the fourth Star Trek movie. Shatner on the director&#039;s chair, never. Somebody who&#039;s up to the job, and not up to doing stupid &quot;blockbuster&quot; movies that mostly turn out silly and uninteresting. Like Star Trek Nemesis. I didn&#039;t think you could go lower from Insurrection, but there you have it.

Why not let some of the original lauded writers of the TV-shows write it, like the internet fan-show New Voyages does, they&#039;ve got the original writers, the actors (recently Walter Koenig, and now George Takei) and a lot of enthusiasm. They don&#039;t have the money, but their work is admirable, and apart from the producer insisting on playing Kirk, good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Shatner and Nimoy were just kidding around the whole time for the hungry Trek crowd, which is both heartening and kind of sad, since if Nimoy really knows, and can&#8217;t say, he should have said it (but this way it&#8217;s more fun). I&#8217;m glad Shatner brought up the death of Spock in connection with the death of Kirk, but that never means the death of a character, you can do endless stories of a character. They were talking about themselves as the actors of those characters. I&#8217;d love to see a movie where they reprise their roles as Kirk and Spock, it&#8217;s what we all want, a connection to the past.</p>
<p>What Abrams is undoubtedly trying to do is the most difficult task to be burdened with, where we need to see Kirk and his crew before they were, a sort of reboot, but also a prequel unseen. Enterprise sort of failed at being a prequel, it went on from a promising start (it was actually), to two seasons of incoherent babble, to the last season that was actually what it was originally meant to be.</p>
<p>With J.J. Abrams history, it will be a total disaster for Star Trek. But it all depends on the writers. I&#8217;d want Nimoy direct it, he succeeded well with the fourth Star Trek movie. Shatner on the director&#8217;s chair, never. Somebody who&#8217;s up to the job, and not up to doing stupid &#8220;blockbuster&#8221; movies that mostly turn out silly and uninteresting. Like Star Trek Nemesis. I didn&#8217;t think you could go lower from Insurrection, but there you have it.</p>
<p>Why not let some of the original lauded writers of the TV-shows write it, like the internet fan-show New Voyages does, they&#8217;ve got the original writers, the actors (recently Walter Koenig, and now George Takei) and a lot of enthusiasm. They don&#8217;t have the money, but their work is admirable, and apart from the producer insisting on playing Kirk, good.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#175 Greg2600,
  But it could well be that Shatner&#039;s motives are some of the elements are causing some of this, as I stated in #168. You brought up points and I gave my opinion on them. It was nothing personal.
If he&#039;s there, cool, if not, cool. I won&#039;t lose sleep wondering how we&#039;ll rescue him from the nexus, or revive his now dead corpse. I can watch the movie and not be worried about how he died in Generations. 
  I want a good Trek story. I like Shatner but I am ready to see Kirk again as a young captain.. an action hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#175 Greg2600,<br />
  But it could well be that Shatner&#8217;s motives are some of the elements are causing some of this, as I stated in #168. You brought up points and I gave my opinion on them. It was nothing personal.<br />
If he&#8217;s there, cool, if not, cool. I won&#8217;t lose sleep wondering how we&#8217;ll rescue him from the nexus, or revive his now dead corpse. I can watch the movie and not be worried about how he died in Generations.<br />
  I want a good Trek story. I like Shatner but I am ready to see Kirk again as a young captain.. an action hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg2600</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg2600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xai - I&#039;m not one to beat around the bush.  Shatner&#039;s motives are unimportant to me.  I just happen to greatly enjoy when Shatner and Nimoy are on screen together, particularly as Kirk and Spock.  And since Nimoy won&#039;t do any other work, this would have been a last hoorah for them.  I will probably go and see it anyway when it comes out, or wait for it on cable.  Although if Nimoy is cast as Sarek, I may refrain.  I am also not bashing them for leaving Shatner out, although I am not happy about it.  However, my point about the Kirk is dead thing, is that while the writers swear they will respect continuity, there is also the quote about Abrams thinking about expanding this movie into a universe on its own.   If that is the case, then again, who cares what happened in Generations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xai &#8211; I&#8217;m not one to beat around the bush.  Shatner&#8217;s motives are unimportant to me.  I just happen to greatly enjoy when Shatner and Nimoy are on screen together, particularly as Kirk and Spock.  And since Nimoy won&#8217;t do any other work, this would have been a last hoorah for them.  I will probably go and see it anyway when it comes out, or wait for it on cable.  Although if Nimoy is cast as Sarek, I may refrain.  I am also not bashing them for leaving Shatner out, although I am not happy about it.  However, my point about the Kirk is dead thing, is that while the writers swear they will respect continuity, there is also the quote about Abrams thinking about expanding this movie into a universe on its own.   If that is the case, then again, who cares what happened in Generations?</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#173 Elrond
&quot;I’m a semi-lurker who rarely posts, and it’s true that I’d love to see Shatner and Nimoy appear briefly as Kirk &amp; Spock, however brief. But if it doesn’t happen, I’ll get over it. I just want a great movie, and hope to walk out of the theater feeling stoked about Trek again. &quot;

Thank you. You just spoke for the vast middle ground of fans that just want a good Trek movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#173 Elrond<br />
&#8220;I’m a semi-lurker who rarely posts, and it’s true that I’d love to see Shatner and Nimoy appear briefly as Kirk &amp; Spock, however brief. But if it doesn’t happen, I’ll get over it. I just want a great movie, and hope to walk out of the theater feeling stoked about Trek again. &#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you. You just spoke for the vast middle ground of fans that just want a good Trek movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Elrond L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elrond L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#166:  I truly, truly hope not.   Why do we need to see Spock die?   Just leave his ending as a great mystery.  Cheap character deaths are a hallmark of latter-day Trek -- Kirk, Dax, Data, Trip, Sisko (kinda) . . . the Enterprise-D . . . even Picard&#039;s brother and nephew dying in Generations now taints a wonderful episode of TNG (Family).  

I&#039;m a semi-lurker who rarely posts, and it&#039;s true that I&#039;d love to see Shatner and Nimoy appear briefly as Kirk &amp; Spock, however brief.  But if it doesn&#039;t happen, I&#039;ll get over it.  I just want a great movie, and hope to walk out of the theater feeling stoked about Trek again.  

Good luck to J.J. and company, and I&#039;m looking forward to this week&#039;s announcements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#166:  I truly, truly hope not.   Why do we need to see Spock die?   Just leave his ending as a great mystery.  Cheap character deaths are a hallmark of latter-day Trek &#8212; Kirk, Dax, Data, Trip, Sisko (kinda) . . . the Enterprise-D . . . even Picard&#8217;s brother and nephew dying in Generations now taints a wonderful episode of TNG (Family).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a semi-lurker who rarely posts, and it&#8217;s true that I&#8217;d love to see Shatner and Nimoy appear briefly as Kirk &amp; Spock, however brief.  But if it doesn&#8217;t happen, I&#8217;ll get over it.  I just want a great movie, and hope to walk out of the theater feeling stoked about Trek again.  </p>
<p>Good luck to J.J. and company, and I&#8217;m looking forward to this week&#8217;s announcements.</p>
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		<title>By: Ky-Malairn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ky-Malairn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #169.
Naa.  I&#039;ve gotta disagree with you Bumblebee.  If the conditions of his return are so unimportant then why design a convoluted premise set after his death to build a flashback movie around?  They could just as easily set the framework up from any point in time leading up to Generations without having to resort to a contrived storyline about resurrecting the only man in the universe who can stop some &quot;dilemma&quot; before it destroys mankind.  Geez, this guy dies and the galaxy immediately goes to hell.  

I don&#039;t know.  With each day it seems more and more unlikely that they&#039;re going to include Shatner at all.  Cautious optimism waning...

Ky-Malairn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #169.<br />
Naa.  I&#8217;ve gotta disagree with you Bumblebee.  If the conditions of his return are so unimportant then why design a convoluted premise set after his death to build a flashback movie around?  They could just as easily set the framework up from any point in time leading up to Generations without having to resort to a contrived storyline about resurrecting the only man in the universe who can stop some &#8220;dilemma&#8221; before it destroys mankind.  Geez, this guy dies and the galaxy immediately goes to hell.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  With each day it seems more and more unlikely that they&#8217;re going to include Shatner at all.  Cautious optimism waning&#8230;</p>
<p>Ky-Malairn</p>
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		<title>By: cap10kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>cap10kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Abrams and co want to bring Shatner back as Kirk they could have his resurrection as part to a tv special for Nov 2008(sweeps) on CBS. this way the movie would get promoted. Plus if not you can always have Shatner doing the Teaser Trailer so we get to see Shatner as Kirk Again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Abrams and co want to bring Shatner back as Kirk they could have his resurrection as part to a tv special for Nov 2008(sweeps) on CBS. this way the movie would get promoted. Plus if not you can always have Shatner doing the Teaser Trailer so we get to see Shatner as Kirk Again</p>
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		<title>By: VOODOO</title>
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		<dc:creator>VOODOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:

Why did the writers of the film say they wanted Shatner for the shoot?

Then only days later  Shatner comes out + says he is not in the film.

Were the writers misquoted?

If not maybe they did write a part in for Shatner + he refused over money or creative control?

Before anyone says anything I am in no way accusing anyone (Shatner or the writers) of lying. I &#039;m just asking for clarification</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:</p>
<p>Why did the writers of the film say they wanted Shatner for the shoot?</p>
<p>Then only days later  Shatner comes out + says he is not in the film.</p>
<p>Were the writers misquoted?</p>
<p>If not maybe they did write a part in for Shatner + he refused over money or creative control?</p>
<p>Before anyone says anything I am in no way accusing anyone (Shatner or the writers) of lying. I &#8216;m just asking for clarification</p>
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