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	<title>Comments on: Shatner On Tabloid Stories: Not Upset &#8211; Not Lobbying For Part</title>
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		<title>By: trektacular</title>
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		<dc:creator>trektacular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should of appreciated REAL Trek while it was still around, the low box office profits of  Trek V and VI, seem to say,  yes we definitely should have</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should of appreciated REAL Trek while it was still around, the low box office profits of  Trek V and VI, seem to say,  yes we definitely should have</p>
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		<title>By: mrregular</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrregular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Shat&#039;s NOT in the new film???
C&#039;mon. Doesn&#039;t Paramount want people to spend their hard earned cash to see it in the theatres, as opposed to waiting for the DVD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shat&#8217;s NOT in the new film???<br />
C&#8217;mon. Doesn&#8217;t Paramount want people to spend their hard earned cash to see it in the theatres, as opposed to waiting for the DVD?</p>
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		<title>By: gorgon</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorgon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Anthony? and any other naysayers..i dont buy it for a moment,Shatner NOT in the new film?

PURE BUNK!

If he&#039;s not in it pass the salt so I can eat my hat!

...but you wont have to....hes in it..it&#039;s all a huge publicity stunt.

later boyz n grlz

¬gorgon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anthony? and any other naysayers..i dont buy it for a moment,Shatner NOT in the new film?</p>
<p>PURE BUNK!</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s not in it pass the salt so I can eat my hat!</p>
<p>&#8230;but you wont have to&#8230;.hes in it..it&#8217;s all a huge publicity stunt.</p>
<p>later boyz n grlz</p>
<p>¬gorgon</p>
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		<title>By: Greg2600</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg2600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>35 - Yeah that&#039;s been my idea all along.  Call me stubborn, but I don&#039;t like the idea of recasting Trek characters, as I feel a big part of the appeal of Star Trek was future thinking and technology, but Paramount keeps going backwards.  The only interest I have in the movie is to see if someone can finally take Star Trek into something cerebral, instead of political intrigue or a big bad villain.  If anyone, I would hope Abrams could do this.  But if it were up to me, I&#039;d like a Shatner/Nimoy return, and whatever else they do, I probably won&#039;t notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>35 &#8211; Yeah that&#8217;s been my idea all along.  Call me stubborn, but I don&#8217;t like the idea of recasting Trek characters, as I feel a big part of the appeal of Star Trek was future thinking and technology, but Paramount keeps going backwards.  The only interest I have in the movie is to see if someone can finally take Star Trek into something cerebral, instead of political intrigue or a big bad villain.  If anyone, I would hope Abrams could do this.  But if it were up to me, I&#8217;d like a Shatner/Nimoy return, and whatever else they do, I probably won&#8217;t notice.</p>
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		<title>By: THX-1138</title>
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		<dc:creator>THX-1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have we all come to terms with the fact that Shatner will never be Kirk again?  I will never be 10 again either.  As Steve Miller said, &quot;Time keeps on slippin&#039;, slippin&#039;, slippin&#039;, into the future.&quot;  Maybe the producers throw him a bone, maybe not.  It is for certain that whatever they do, that legions of Trek fans will be upset no matter what.  

To me, it&#039;s a bit like saying that I won&#039;t watch the NFL again because Joe Montana retired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have we all come to terms with the fact that Shatner will never be Kirk again?  I will never be 10 again either.  As Steve Miller said, &#8220;Time keeps on slippin&#8217;, slippin&#8217;, slippin&#8217;, into the future.&#8221;  Maybe the producers throw him a bone, maybe not.  It is for certain that whatever they do, that legions of Trek fans will be upset no matter what.  </p>
<p>To me, it&#8217;s a bit like saying that I won&#8217;t watch the NFL again because Joe Montana retired.</p>
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		<title>By: cap10kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>cap10kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if Abrams and CBS wanted they could do a TV Special in Nov 2008 Featuring Shatner&#039;s Return as Kirk you find a way to cross promote the movie (expecially if it airs after CSI)  if not please use Shatner in the Teaser Trailer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Abrams and CBS wanted they could do a TV Special in Nov 2008 Featuring Shatner&#8217;s Return as Kirk you find a way to cross promote the movie (expecially if it airs after CSI)  if not please use Shatner in the Teaser Trailer</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doubt he&#039;s in it.  Generations really put the kibosh on the TOS crew. Why they couldn&#039;t just say Echo Kirk died, I don&#039;t know.  Never saw Kirk being happy chopping wood and fixing eggs like he was-- kind of out of character.  The whole TOS series was about communicating with and gaining freedom from what or whoever was holding them. So Kirk sits around for 78 years? And Spock, too?  Not very Kirk-like. Anyhow, there&#039;s a new movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubt he&#8217;s in it.  Generations really put the kibosh on the TOS crew. Why they couldn&#8217;t just say Echo Kirk died, I don&#8217;t know.  Never saw Kirk being happy chopping wood and fixing eggs like he was&#8211; kind of out of character.  The whole TOS series was about communicating with and gaining freedom from what or whoever was holding them. So Kirk sits around for 78 years? And Spock, too?  Not very Kirk-like. Anyhow, there&#8217;s a new movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Oceanhopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oceanhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two possibilities:

1) Nimoy plays Sarek and there is no equivalent role as Kirk&#039;s dad in the script for Shatner. (Which rings false to me, as a cameo is easy to add, evenis suplus to plot requirements, leading me to....)

2) Nimoy appears as an older Spock, to introduce a tale from his youth. Shatner can&#039;t appear as by this stage Kirk is gone and moving  the timeframe of the reminiscence to earlier, when Kirk was around, somehow negates the reason for him remembering it in the first place.

Maybe it opens with Spock is talking to some young punks about stuff and somehow he gets in mind of the first time he met Jim Kirk, so he tells them the wild tale of the amazing adventure they had when they first met (quite possibly as junior officers on the big E herself), in which they met Death, Kirk melvins him and they go on to have a most excellent adventure in time and space?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two possibilities:</p>
<p>1) Nimoy plays Sarek and there is no equivalent role as Kirk&#8217;s dad in the script for Shatner. (Which rings false to me, as a cameo is easy to add, evenis suplus to plot requirements, leading me to&#8230;.)</p>
<p>2) Nimoy appears as an older Spock, to introduce a tale from his youth. Shatner can&#8217;t appear as by this stage Kirk is gone and moving  the timeframe of the reminiscence to earlier, when Kirk was around, somehow negates the reason for him remembering it in the first place.</p>
<p>Maybe it opens with Spock is talking to some young punks about stuff and somehow he gets in mind of the first time he met Jim Kirk, so he tells them the wild tale of the amazing adventure they had when they first met (quite possibly as junior officers on the big E herself), in which they met Death, Kirk melvins him and they go on to have a most excellent adventure in time and space?</p>
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		<title>By: konar</title>
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		<dc:creator>konar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28: OR Kirk wakes up next to Spock and says, &quot;I just had the strangest dream....&quot;

Personally, I think it is a good idea to bookend the retooling as if it is a memory of one of the original cast members -- it will add a deeper legitimacy by saying in as clear a way as possible that what went on before has not been abandoned or forgotten.  As to whether that is Nimoy or Shatner or both, to me it doesn&#039;t make a difference.  I do think that since Vulcans have a much longer lifespan than humans that it would make sense to have Spock the lone survivng crew member. 

Kind of like the woman in Titanic telling a story that comes to life in her memory.  Hopefully, not with the same outcome though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28: OR Kirk wakes up next to Spock and says, &#8220;I just had the strangest dream&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally, I think it is a good idea to bookend the retooling as if it is a memory of one of the original cast members &#8212; it will add a deeper legitimacy by saying in as clear a way as possible that what went on before has not been abandoned or forgotten.  As to whether that is Nimoy or Shatner or both, to me it doesn&#8217;t make a difference.  I do think that since Vulcans have a much longer lifespan than humans that it would make sense to have Spock the lone survivng crew member. </p>
<p>Kind of like the woman in Titanic telling a story that comes to life in her memory.  Hopefully, not with the same outcome though.</p>
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		<title>By: RaveOnEd</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaveOnEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been lurking here lots lately, mainly to read up on the Comic Con info as it becomes available (I was at the con this past weekend, and I was really surprised to see the info about it posted here by that evening!)

Anyway, although it seems like Shatner may not be in the film (I still have a thought it&#039;s all something that will end ultimately with him in a cameo), I&#039;m still happy with the idea of seeing TOS era Trek on a big screen, that gorgeous 1701 (no bloody A, B, C or D!) up there, crew of the Enterprise kicking butt and taking names again!

But, I do have a question, not meaning to be sarcastic or mean: with the talk of it &quot;has to be Shatner and Nimoy or nothing&quot;, what about the third member of the friendship?  He&#039;s not around anymore, and I can&#039;t quite see a real reminiscing of the old days without McCoy.

Maybe that&#039;s why, if Shatner is not actually in the movie, it can be said that it would not be fair to have it without De Kelley, who is unfortunately no longer with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been lurking here lots lately, mainly to read up on the Comic Con info as it becomes available (I was at the con this past weekend, and I was really surprised to see the info about it posted here by that evening!)</p>
<p>Anyway, although it seems like Shatner may not be in the film (I still have a thought it&#8217;s all something that will end ultimately with him in a cameo), I&#8217;m still happy with the idea of seeing TOS era Trek on a big screen, that gorgeous 1701 (no bloody A, B, C or D!) up there, crew of the Enterprise kicking butt and taking names again!</p>
<p>But, I do have a question, not meaning to be sarcastic or mean: with the talk of it &#8220;has to be Shatner and Nimoy or nothing&#8221;, what about the third member of the friendship?  He&#8217;s not around anymore, and I can&#8217;t quite see a real reminiscing of the old days without McCoy.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why, if Shatner is not actually in the movie, it can be said that it would not be fair to have it without De Kelley, who is unfortunately no longer with us.</p>
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