Comments on: Review “The Squire Of Gothos” Remastered

By: Scot

Scot — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:36:58 +0000

In post no. 39, JC said:

“I don’t recall how He treated the females. I bet, however, it was probably in a degrading manner.”

Quite the contrary. Trelane wanted to act the part of the cultured and debonair gentleman with Uhura and and the yeoman. One nice little bit was when, upon seeing Uhura (and assuming her to be “a Nubian prize, taken on one of your raids of conquest”), he studied her features for a moment and said, “She has the melting eyes of the Queen of Sheba, the same lovely coloring.” Sort of an early version of “Black is Beautiful.”

By: Kev

Kev — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:32:51 +0000

Dystheism may not be the right label. The super-powerful beings in Star Trek are more like Clarke’s Third Law beings, not supernatural at all, but beyond our technical ken.

Roddenberry had thoughts of humanity getting itself to that point someday. Remember when Wesley Crusher went off with the traveller.

If there is any underlying spiritual dimension to Star Trek, it is something more like a Pantheism or, at most, a Pandeism, there being no hint of a real activist God of the Abrahamic faiths type. Then again, you’d think the Q would be Buddhists.

By: planettom

planettom — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:01:54 +0000

Was that a stuffed Salt Vampire in Trelane’s foyer?

You’d think McCoy would have said, hey, I briefly dated one of these a few episodes ago, before it tried to de-salt me.

It’s curious how Trelane goes from his knowledge of Earth being “900 years in the past” (which would be the mid 1300s), to suddenly producing “Alexander Hamilton’s dueling pistols”, which are some 450 years later, 450 years in the past.

By: Major Joe Ely Carrales, CAP

Major Joe Ely Carrales, CAP — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:00:25 +0000

80. neal – July 27, 2007

Yes, they are there to seek out new life, but not if it means their own death.

Think of the Scientists from the 1950s Sci Fi Films that protected destructive things in the name of “science,” that were clearly dangerous or destructive to human society. There were some in Trek as well, namely Dr. Crater, that protected the Salt Vampire because it “was the last of its kind.”

Trelane was a threat to the ship, he also made several actions that cause the reaction from the crew…

1) He kidnapped Kirk and Sulu

2) He held the landing party againt their will

3) His comments about the phaser “killing millions”

4) The cat and mouse game.

5) his unchecked god-like powers.

Their best hope was to get away, to preserve their lives.

By: Commodore Z

Commodore Z — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:41:36 +0000

Star Trek New Voyages has produced “Blood and Fire” with David Gerrold in the Directors’ chair, so we should be able to judge for ourselves if we agree with Roddenberry’s call in not shooting that episode 20 years ago.

By: billy don't be a hiro

billy don't be a hiro — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:20:24 +0000

“And that makes all the other huge steps forwards that he made in a time when it was bold and unpopular to do so unimportant?”

No, that’s your assumption based upon what I said.

What I’m saying is that, for all the credit he gets for being a visionary and ahead of his time, when it came to the gay issue, he was all talk and no action. He liked having the image and reputation of being a progessive thinker, but when it got down to brass tacks, he passed and refused to put a script into production that would have put his money where his mouth was. Gene did not do well by David Gerrold, on that matter and several others.

By: neal

neal — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:15:40 +0000

Always loved this ep, but watching it as an adult it sort of surprises me how angry and rude Kirk and crew are. I mean, their mission is to seek out new life, make contact, learn. Well, here’s this obviously sophisticated form of life. It is strange creature, bizarre, totally whacked. Why are they in such a rush to get somewhere else? Here is what they’ve been seeking out, just lands in their lap, a new discovery to explore and document for federation science. Instead, here’s Kirk making challenge and getting all uptight! Even Spock is insulting. Why aren’t they both simply standing back and observing, learning? All this anger! Maybe it was the caffeine.

By: JC

JC — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:54:36 +0000

Ironic that while Gene Roddenberry used the framework of his show to expose false gods (Star Trek 5;for example)He also has been lauded as the leader of a Star Trek cult

By: Toonloon

Toonloon — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:44:49 +0000

#71 “Gene’s call. An opportunity to put his money where his mouth was and Gene passed. That says a lot to me. ”

And that makes all the other huge steps forwards that he made in a time when it was bold and unpopular to do so unimportant?

By: THX-1138

THX-1138 — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:07:00 +0000

#70
It was not so much your comment that I found disappointing (particularly from a group af fans that should be more “enlightened”), as it was the people who seemed to display a bit of ignorance and a touch of intolerance regarding Campbell’s foppish portrayal of Trelane. I try not to point fingers directly at posters, rather I was actually trying to shine some light on the poor direction the thread was going. Of course, there is nothing wrong with having an intelligent discourse about how Trek handled these so-called “taboo” subjects for the late 60’s. I just don’t recall homosexuality ever actually coming up overtly in any of the episodes.
Now politics and religion? You betcha’! Although I steer clear of bringing them up, I guess that was one of Star Trek’s main storytelling goals. That to introduce hard topics hidden behind the veil of “science fiction”. That old poster still rings true:
All I needed to know, I learned by watching Star Trek.
Well maybe not all, but it sure got a 5, 6, 7, 8, year old boy to thinking on things that otherwise would have never have entered his mind. God complexes, messianic leaders, inter-racial relationships, the very concept of the fabric of space and time. Pretty heady stuff to learn, or at least be made aware of, by a TV show.