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		<title>By: Glen Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, an addendum... That should be written: &quot;insightful thought&quot;, not &quot;inciteful thought&quot;. Although upon reflection, what&#039;s the use of insightful thought if it doesn&#039;t incite thought. Hmmmm.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, an addendum&#8230; That should be written: &#8220;insightful thought&#8221;, not &#8220;inciteful thought&#8221;. Although upon reflection, what&#8217;s the use of insightful thought if it doesn&#8217;t incite thought. Hmmmm&#8230;. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Gordon</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/04/review-death-in-winter/comment-page-1/#comment-188653</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across your site, by accident. I wasn&#039;t even looking for Star Trek but still came to this page! Now &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; kind of cyberpull takes Google-marketing skill ;)

Personally, I never can get myself to read books of science fiction. It might have something to do with the well-intentioned but vacuous, hooray-for-reading propaganda I was subjected to in gradeschool that was biased towards reading for pure pleasure rather than for more (like knowledge or inciteful thought). 

So I rebelled by reading books only for information and learning rather than entertainment. I use movies to entertain me. While the Star Trek series and its movies aren&#039;t Shakespeare, I enjoy some of the imagination, artistic design and thought (yes, there is some thought in these shows) that went into them.

That being said, I think that viewers/readers are strolling blindly down the wrong path if they honestly believe that they will find brilliant writing under the umbrella of what is afterall a franchise. Originality is the breath of writing but there is no life to be found in the conformist doctrine of a sci-fi universe with its special weave of events created by so many previous writers. Beam me up, Scotty! ;)  (I know, so cliché, but I was too weak to resist. Carry on.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across your site, by accident. I wasn&#8217;t even looking for Star Trek but still came to this page! Now <i>that</i> kind of cyberpull takes Google-marketing skill ;)</p>
<p>Personally, I never can get myself to read books of science fiction. It might have something to do with the well-intentioned but vacuous, hooray-for-reading propaganda I was subjected to in gradeschool that was biased towards reading for pure pleasure rather than for more (like knowledge or inciteful thought). </p>
<p>So I rebelled by reading books only for information and learning rather than entertainment. I use movies to entertain me. While the Star Trek series and its movies aren&#8217;t Shakespeare, I enjoy some of the imagination, artistic design and thought (yes, there is some thought in these shows) that went into them.</p>
<p>That being said, I think that viewers/readers are strolling blindly down the wrong path if they honestly believe that they will find brilliant writing under the umbrella of what is afterall a franchise. Originality is the breath of writing but there is no life to be found in the conformist doctrine of a sci-fi universe with its special weave of events created by so many previous writers. Beam me up, Scotty! ;)  (I know, so cliché, but I was too weak to resist. Carry on.)</p>
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		<title>By: Father Rob</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/04/review-death-in-winter/comment-page-1/#comment-182191</link>
		<dc:creator>Father Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#39 - Titan returns this December with Geoffrey Thorne&#039;s &quot;Sword of Damocles&quot;.  Martin/Mangels will be back next year with an Enterprise relaunch novel, &quot;Kobyashi Maru&quot; (not to be confused with the Julia Eclar novel &quot;The Kobyashi Maru&quot; from 1989).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#39 &#8211; Titan returns this December with Geoffrey Thorne&#8217;s &#8220;Sword of Damocles&#8221;.  Martin/Mangels will be back next year with an Enterprise relaunch novel, &#8220;Kobyashi Maru&#8221; (not to be confused with the Julia Eclar novel &#8220;The Kobyashi Maru&#8221; from 1989).</p>
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		<title>By: J. Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll definitely pick this up to read it, since I can&#039;t avoid a Star Trek book. That doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;ll give it great reviews automatically, though. I can&#039;t pass a Star Trek book, but I can pan it if it&#039;s not very good, so we&#039;ll see here.

As for Andy Mangels/Michael Martin&#039;s books, I love them. And I&#039;m a big fan of the Titan series. I can&#039;t wait to see if anything else comes out of that series.

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll definitely pick this up to read it, since I can&#8217;t avoid a Star Trek book. That doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;ll give it great reviews automatically, though. I can&#8217;t pass a Star Trek book, but I can pan it if it&#8217;s not very good, so we&#8217;ll see here.</p>
<p>As for Andy Mangels/Michael Martin&#8217;s books, I love them. And I&#8217;m a big fan of the Titan series. I can&#8217;t wait to see if anything else comes out of that series.</p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>By: pcumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very first Strange New Worlds fan fiction anthology was quite good, expecially the story called &quot;Good Night, Voyager&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very first Strange New Worlds fan fiction anthology was quite good, expecially the story called &#8220;Good Night, Voyager&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Oceanhopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oceanhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming back to Trek books that rock:

David R George III is the most promising new Trek writer I&#039;ve seen in quite a while.  He writes quite big books, but I just like his style so much I tend to devour them in only a few sessions.  He did one of the Mission: Gamma novels from the DS9 &quot;8th Season&quot; which I liked and which I thought did excellent work in developing the character of Elias Vaughn.  His recent three TOS novels on the big 3 are also all very readable, although the McCoy one is definitely the best.

On the topic of DS9, the first batch of post-series novels are generally very good ( runing from &quot;Avatar&quot; thru to &quot;Unity&quot;, which effectively rounds off the &quot;eighth season&quot; of novels).  That said, &quot;This Grey Spirit&quot; was rubbish, but most were fair/good to excellent.  Not too keen on those post-Unity though.

&quot;Doctor&#039;s Orders&quot; , &quot;The Three-minute Universe&quot; and &quot;Mutiny on the Enterprise&quot; are all good, memorable novels from the original series&#039; back catalogue.

I&#039;m of mixed feelings towards Peter David. I used to love his early TNG stuff, which peaked with Imzadi, but since then I felt he degenereated into pure fanfic with all the wish fulfilment fantasies and out-of-character actions that brings.
(New Frontier was a great idea, but the execution was so cheesy i felt embarassed to be seen with it. A Starfleet captain would never, EVER respond to an alien attack by petulantly shouting across the bridge, &quot;I want to blow those B@stards out of space!&quot; as Calhoun does in the opening story. And the constant wise-cracking is more in keeping with a Marx Bros film than Star Trek).

Back to the good: the Strange New Worlds anthologies are generally very good, with some very striking stories in there that more than make up for the occasion dud.

Oh, and as a rule of thumb - only go for books from series you really like. I felt VGR and ENT were very varibale and so tend not to look at their novels. But the TOS, TNG and DS9 crews I know liek the back of my hand, and so books about them - especially ones that feel like actual episodes - I do look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming back to Trek books that rock:</p>
<p>David R George III is the most promising new Trek writer I&#8217;ve seen in quite a while.  He writes quite big books, but I just like his style so much I tend to devour them in only a few sessions.  He did one of the Mission: Gamma novels from the DS9 &#8220;8th Season&#8221; which I liked and which I thought did excellent work in developing the character of Elias Vaughn.  His recent three TOS novels on the big 3 are also all very readable, although the McCoy one is definitely the best.</p>
<p>On the topic of DS9, the first batch of post-series novels are generally very good ( runing from &#8220;Avatar&#8221; thru to &#8220;Unity&#8221;, which effectively rounds off the &#8220;eighth season&#8221; of novels).  That said, &#8220;This Grey Spirit&#8221; was rubbish, but most were fair/good to excellent.  Not too keen on those post-Unity though.</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctor&#8217;s Orders&#8221; , &#8220;The Three-minute Universe&#8221; and &#8220;Mutiny on the Enterprise&#8221; are all good, memorable novels from the original series&#8217; back catalogue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of mixed feelings towards Peter David. I used to love his early TNG stuff, which peaked with Imzadi, but since then I felt he degenereated into pure fanfic with all the wish fulfilment fantasies and out-of-character actions that brings.<br />
(New Frontier was a great idea, but the execution was so cheesy i felt embarassed to be seen with it. A Starfleet captain would never, EVER respond to an alien attack by petulantly shouting across the bridge, &#8220;I want to blow those B@stards out of space!&#8221; as Calhoun does in the opening story. And the constant wise-cracking is more in keeping with a Marx Bros film than Star Trek).</p>
<p>Back to the good: the Strange New Worlds anthologies are generally very good, with some very striking stories in there that more than make up for the occasion dud.</p>
<p>Oh, and as a rule of thumb &#8211; only go for books from series you really like. I felt VGR and ENT were very varibale and so tend not to look at their novels. But the TOS, TNG and DS9 crews I know liek the back of my hand, and so books about them &#8211; especially ones that feel like actual episodes &#8211; I do look at.</p>
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		<title>By: Father Rob</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/04/review-death-in-winter/comment-page-1/#comment-180044</link>
		<dc:creator>Father Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph,

I&#039;ve been filling some of my recent leisure time (since reading TNG&#039;s The Buried Age) with going back to read some &#039;classic&#039; novels.  I blew through Fontana&#039;s &quot;Vulcan&#039;s Glory&quot;, a tale of Spock&#039;s first mission on the Enterprise under Pike, and am already making pretty good time on David Dvorkin&#039;s &quot;Timetrap&quot;.

I don&#039;t mind miniseries from time to time (provided they come out in close enough succession, like the enjoyable &quot;A Time To...&quot; series, to be easy to follow) but I too miss the old days of the book/episode feel... at least from time to time.

As I await a copy of &quot;Resistance&quot; (the new TNG novel) I am planning to hit &quot;The Abode of Life&quot;, &quot;The Pandora Principle&quot; and a few others for my own amusement.  Heck, I might dig out my copy of &quot;The Kingon Gambit&quot; just for fun!

Rob+</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been filling some of my recent leisure time (since reading TNG&#8217;s The Buried Age) with going back to read some &#8216;classic&#8217; novels.  I blew through Fontana&#8217;s &#8220;Vulcan&#8217;s Glory&#8221;, a tale of Spock&#8217;s first mission on the Enterprise under Pike, and am already making pretty good time on David Dvorkin&#8217;s &#8220;Timetrap&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind miniseries from time to time (provided they come out in close enough succession, like the enjoyable &#8220;A Time To&#8230;&#8221; series, to be easy to follow) but I too miss the old days of the book/episode feel&#8230; at least from time to time.</p>
<p>As I await a copy of &#8220;Resistance&#8221; (the new TNG novel) I am planning to hit &#8220;The Abode of Life&#8221;, &#8220;The Pandora Principle&#8221; and a few others for my own amusement.  Heck, I might dig out my copy of &#8220;The Kingon Gambit&#8221; just for fun!</p>
<p>Rob+</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I long for the glory days of the Pocket Book Trek novels. There were no multi-series tie-ins, no multi-book series. Each book was its own story -- it&#039;s own episode? -- and almost each one an enjoyable read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I long for the glory days of the Pocket Book Trek novels. There were no multi-series tie-ins, no multi-book series. Each book was its own story &#8212; it&#8217;s own episode? &#8212; and almost each one an enjoyable read.</p>
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		<title>By: James Heaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Heaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent years convincing my Dad to try another Trek book, mainly so I&#039;d have someone in real life with whom to chat about them.  So he grabbed this book and the first two from Titan, by Martin and Mangels--against my advice.

That was over a year ago.  He swore off Trek books permanently.  Deservedly so, with those three stinkers.

Arrrrrg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent years convincing my Dad to try another Trek book, mainly so I&#8217;d have someone in real life with whom to chat about them.  So he grabbed this book and the first two from Titan, by Martin and Mangels&#8211;against my advice.</p>
<p>That was over a year ago.  He swore off Trek books permanently.  Deservedly so, with those three stinkers.</p>
<p>Arrrrrg.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone remember how when this book was first announced, Pocket Books was trying to hype it up on different boards by saying that it was to feature the death of another member of the TNG crew (presumably Crusher)?  Whatever happened to that?  Maybe Paramount killed the idea, and the novel suffered due to necessary re-writes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone remember how when this book was first announced, Pocket Books was trying to hype it up on different boards by saying that it was to feature the death of another member of the TNG crew (presumably Crusher)?  Whatever happened to that?  Maybe Paramount killed the idea, and the novel suffered due to necessary re-writes.</p>
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