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	<title>Comments on: New Johnny Lightning Ships Unveiled At Wizard World</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-2537672</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Harry Mud
The JL &quot;vanilla&quot; 1701 doesn&#039;t even have the simple detailing on the nacelle pylons....LOL...even Micro Machines managed to squeeze that in. If you want a fantastic model of the 1701 in this size, check out the F-Toys one. It&#039;s utterly beautiful. As regards the Furuta vs JL.....I own nearly every Trek ship both companies have made....and Furuta are the better ships some of the time, and JL are for others. Like the Furuta Reliant is better, so is the Furuta Voyager, those are just off the top of my head. Furuta also beat JL for the more obscure vessels...like Stargazer, Prometheus, Defiant, Species 8472 Bio ship, Deep Space Nine, Cardassian Galor Class etc...heck they even did Zefram Cochrane&#039;s Phoenix...so 10 out of 10 for effort.

In the case of the vanilla 1701, Furuta&#039;s is much better detailed, but let down by the bent nacelle pylons. However, putting a hair dryer on it for a few minutes, bending to shape, and then running under a cold tap should fix this. After that, Furuta&#039;s is easily the best. The red used on the nacelle engines is also closer than the terrible dark cherry red on the JL version. In fact the 1701 is my least favourite ship in JL&#039;s &#039;fleet&#039; (the Reliant is my favourite).

I have to say, though, the single volume of 6 ships from the F-toys line are better than both put together. If you don&#039;t own them, get to eBay this instance....I swear you won&#039;t regret it. It&#039;s also a pity the Corgi 40th Anny range wasn&#039;t priced to survive....the 95% metal 1701 is a beauty, and the Klingon BoP is a dream come true for unskilled model collectors like me...better than all but the most skilfully built/painted AMT/ERTL jobs. The Ent D was a mottled mess, though, and the saucer was all plastic...pity that. Still, better than the Hot Wheels attempt at a &#039;die cast&#039; range. Now they are a pathetic waste of this most holy of licenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Harry Mud<br />
The JL &#8220;vanilla&#8221; 1701 doesn&#8217;t even have the simple detailing on the nacelle pylons&#8230;.LOL&#8230;even Micro Machines managed to squeeze that in. If you want a fantastic model of the 1701 in this size, check out the F-Toys one. It&#8217;s utterly beautiful. As regards the Furuta vs JL&#8230;..I own nearly every Trek ship both companies have made&#8230;.and Furuta are the better ships some of the time, and JL are for others. Like the Furuta Reliant is better, so is the Furuta Voyager, those are just off the top of my head. Furuta also beat JL for the more obscure vessels&#8230;like Stargazer, Prometheus, Defiant, Species 8472 Bio ship, Deep Space Nine, Cardassian Galor Class etc&#8230;heck they even did Zefram Cochrane&#8217;s Phoenix&#8230;so 10 out of 10 for effort.</p>
<p>In the case of the vanilla 1701, Furuta&#8217;s is much better detailed, but let down by the bent nacelle pylons. However, putting a hair dryer on it for a few minutes, bending to shape, and then running under a cold tap should fix this. After that, Furuta&#8217;s is easily the best. The red used on the nacelle engines is also closer than the terrible dark cherry red on the JL version. In fact the 1701 is my least favourite ship in JL&#8217;s &#8216;fleet&#8217; (the Reliant is my favourite).</p>
<p>I have to say, though, the single volume of 6 ships from the F-toys line are better than both put together. If you don&#8217;t own them, get to eBay this instance&#8230;.I swear you won&#8217;t regret it. It&#8217;s also a pity the Corgi 40th Anny range wasn&#8217;t priced to survive&#8230;.the 95% metal 1701 is a beauty, and the Klingon BoP is a dream come true for unskilled model collectors like me&#8230;better than all but the most skilfully built/painted AMT/ERTL jobs. The Ent D was a mottled mess, though, and the saucer was all plastic&#8230;pity that. Still, better than the Hot Wheels attempt at a &#8216;die cast&#8217; range. Now they are a pathetic waste of this most holy of licenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Mudd</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-414642</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Mudd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As regards Furuta Vs JL, I find it&#039;s not as easy as one  bettering the other. Some Furuta trek ships have better details, and some JL have better details. It&#039;s Dependant on the actual ship/model. I think the Furuta Galileo  is much more detailed, for example. Yet the &#039;vanilla&#039; 1701 is JL all the way.

I own wave 1 twice - 6 on display, and 6 sealed for posterity. As regards further waves, I will only buy the ones I want....not all of them for collecting&#039;s sake.  For example, I&#039;m not a big Next Gen fan. I like the TOS stuff, and the TOS movie era stuff (like TWOK&#039;s Reliant...cool!). Wave 2 I bypassed completely, as they were the same ships with a bit of black paint representing &#039;battle damage&#039;. That&#039;s just a con. And yeah, I was dissapointed it was the &#039;wrong&#039; Defiant. I&#039;m still after a DS9 Defiant of *any* brand. I keep getting outbid, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As regards Furuta Vs JL, I find it&#8217;s not as easy as one  bettering the other. Some Furuta trek ships have better details, and some JL have better details. It&#8217;s Dependant on the actual ship/model. I think the Furuta Galileo  is much more detailed, for example. Yet the &#8216;vanilla&#8217; 1701 is JL all the way.</p>
<p>I own wave 1 twice &#8211; 6 on display, and 6 sealed for posterity. As regards further waves, I will only buy the ones I want&#8230;.not all of them for collecting&#8217;s sake.  For example, I&#8217;m not a big Next Gen fan. I like the TOS stuff, and the TOS movie era stuff (like TWOK&#8217;s Reliant&#8230;cool!). Wave 2 I bypassed completely, as they were the same ships with a bit of black paint representing &#8216;battle damage&#8217;. That&#8217;s just a con. And yeah, I was dissapointed it was the &#8216;wrong&#8217; Defiant. I&#8217;m still after a DS9 Defiant of *any* brand. I keep getting outbid, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-301024</link>
		<dc:creator>Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any for sale but you can check out pictures of all 4 releases at www.jlcollector.com.  Here&#039;s wave 4: www.jlcollector.com/trekr4.html  Go to the index from there and down to Show Biz, Fantasy, Model Kits,  &amp; Comic Books selection bar to find the others.

Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any for sale but you can check out pictures of all 4 releases at <a href="http://www.jlcollector.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jlcollector.com</a>.  Here&#8217;s wave 4: <a href="http://www.jlcollector.com/trekr4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jlcollector.com/trekr4.html</a>  Go to the index from there and down to Show Biz, Fantasy, Model Kits,  &amp; Comic Books selection bar to find the others.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: lvmainman</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-233552</link>
		<dc:creator>lvmainman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear startrekexp.com will be carrying them when they arrive</description>
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		<title>By: TrekLog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Die Wizard World Convention enthüllt neue Raumschiffmodelle von Johnny Lightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrekLog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Die Wizard World Convention enthüllt neue Raumschiffmodelle von Johnny Lightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Während die Augen der Trekkie-Welt sich vor fast 2 Wochen auf die Las Vegas Creation Convention richteten, gab es auch einige Trek Spielzeug News auf der Wizard World Convention in Chicago. September 2007 bringt somit eine willkommene Überraschung für Fans der Star Trek-Raumschiffe von Johnny Lightning. Nach der dritten Auflage von Schiffen vor ca. 2 Jahren, gab es Gerüchte, dass die Spielzeuge seitens Johnny Lightning eingestellt werden würden. Wie auch immer, Verkäufszahlen über den Erwartungen führten zu einer vierten Auflage von Schiffen. Dazu gehörten die USS Enterprise 1701-D aus Star Trek VII: Generations, der Borg-Würfel aus Star Trek VIII: First Contact samt Borgsphäre, die USS Majestic NCC-31060, die USS Voyager NCC-74656 mit Landegestell, und die USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A. Diese detaillierten Schiffe sind ab September bei Toys R Us erhältlich (zu erwartender Preis: $4 pro Stück). Der Trek Movie Report bietet einen exklusiven Blick auf die neuen Modelle (Bild 1, Bild 2). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Während die Augen der Trekkie-Welt sich vor fast 2 Wochen auf die Las Vegas Creation Convention richteten, gab es auch einige Trek Spielzeug News auf der Wizard World Convention in Chicago. September 2007 bringt somit eine willkommene Überraschung für Fans der Star Trek-Raumschiffe von Johnny Lightning. Nach der dritten Auflage von Schiffen vor ca. 2 Jahren, gab es Gerüchte, dass die Spielzeuge seitens Johnny Lightning eingestellt werden würden. Wie auch immer, Verkäufszahlen über den Erwartungen führten zu einer vierten Auflage von Schiffen. Dazu gehörten die USS Enterprise 1701-D aus Star Trek VII: Generations, der Borg-Würfel aus Star Trek VIII: First Contact samt Borgsphäre, die USS Majestic NCC-31060, die USS Voyager NCC-74656 mit Landegestell, und die USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A. Diese detaillierten Schiffe sind ab September bei Toys R Us erhältlich (zu erwartender Preis: $4 pro Stück). Der Trek Movie Report bietet einen exklusiven Blick auf die neuen Modelle (Bild 1, Bild 2). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-195675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, lets ditch the repainted TOS Defiant and give DS9&#039;s USS Defiant some love! Bring on the NX-74205 please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, lets ditch the repainted TOS Defiant and give DS9&#8217;s USS Defiant some love! Bring on the NX-74205 please.</p>
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		<title>By: Lendorien</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-191280</link>
		<dc:creator>Lendorien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiousity, does anyone have wargaming rules for using these models in wargaming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiousity, does anyone have wargaming rules for using these models in wargaming?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-190024</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The white ships are the White Lightning variants, they can be hard to find if these are popular enough.  Series 1 had WL variants, series 2 WL&#039;s had white delta shields on the belly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The white ships are the White Lightning variants, they can be hard to find if these are popular enough.  Series 1 had WL variants, series 2 WL&#8217;s had white delta shields on the belly.</p>
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		<title>By: TomBot2007</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/new-johnny-lighting-toys-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-187213</link>
		<dc:creator>TomBot2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess i&#039;m the only one that was somewhat disappointed with these? I bought the Enterprise &amp; Klingon D-7 in giddy excitement, thinking that they were metal diecast versions, only to get them home and discover that the bases were metal, not the ships!!! I was angry, and wondering, why I didn&#039;t get a metal ship and a plactic base instead!?!?! I was put off, and didn&#039;t buy anymore after that. More for all you... And don&#039;t say metal is too expensive, it&#039;s being used by other manufacturers, Star Wars die-cast stuff for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess i&#8217;m the only one that was somewhat disappointed with these? I bought the Enterprise &amp; Klingon D-7 in giddy excitement, thinking that they were metal diecast versions, only to get them home and discover that the bases were metal, not the ships!!! I was angry, and wondering, why I didn&#8217;t get a metal ship and a plactic base instead!?!?! I was put off, and didn&#8217;t buy anymore after that. More for all you&#8230; And don&#8217;t say metal is too expensive, it&#8217;s being used by other manufacturers, Star Wars die-cast stuff for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Xplodin' Nacelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xplodin' Nacelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope to get ahold of some of these. in the past, whenever I got time to go look for them all I was able to find was about 25 Galileo Shuttlecrafts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope to get ahold of some of these. in the past, whenever I got time to go look for them all I was able to find was about 25 Galileo Shuttlecrafts.</p>
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