Comments on: VegasCon 07 – Frakes & Spiner Clown Around + Talk Nemesis & Abrams Trek

By: tiberius

tiberius — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:53:40 +0000

It is fairly remarkable that of the 4 TNG films, only one of them was an unqualified success. And the credit for that goes the the screenwriters and a terrific directorial debut by Frakes.

I think the other three had good intentions. And I have a soft spot for them all, in many ways. Generations is pretty good, up to the point where Kirk and Picard meet. Nemesis is very much like a TNG episode (just not one of the great ones), and the characters are spot-on (can’t understand how true fans of the show can diss this film). And Nemesis is a concept that could have worked. Should have worked. But didn’t. The feel was wrong, and yet, it too has its moments – and it ends well, with the Data wake, and the departure of Riker for his new command (hearkens back to ‘The Best of Both Worlds’”.

Intentions were good on all of the films, but mistakes were made. Too bad.

Still, I have high hopes for the new film. It would be wonderful if it were great. But regardless, it’ll be nice to see Kirk, Spock and McCoy back in action (just as it was for ST:TMP….another film that has grown on me, over time).

By: trektacular

trektacular — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:34:00 +0000

#43
‘Stewart play Shinzon’
That would’ve actually been cool to see

By: Beese

Beese — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:02:18 +0000

I wonder if it would have been better to have Stewart play Shinzon? Obviously you’d have to alter the rapid age plot point, but I think it would have made for a slightly better ‘clone’ then some guy who looks and acts nothing like Picard.

By: Almodovar

Almodovar — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:54:28 +0000

I agree with everything that’s been said about the problems with Nemesis plot and overemphasis on action. But I would like to add another thing. When I first saw that Tom Hardy guy revealed as Picard’s clone, my suspension of disbelief went out the window! That dude looks nothing like Picard, except for the bald head (not to mention the fact that according to a couple of TNG episodes the young Picard wasn’t bald) They try to explain it away as a result of violence, but dude, violence couldn’t turn you into a completely different person. I would have trouble believing Hardy as Picard’s son, let alone his clone.

By: Lendorien

Lendorien — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:27:01 +0000

#39 I still say that the plot was stupid. It was bad sci-fi all around. But you do have a point. The characters got overwhelmed by the bad plot and dumb action.

By: Viking

Viking — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:46:09 +0000

I’ll say it again: I like how Frakes always takes the high road. He seems to be a pretty stand-up guy.

By: TJ Trek

TJ Trek — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:15:15 +0000

here’s my take on what was wrong with Nemesis. Take it or leave it of course, because it is just my opinion…

Nemesis succeded in being a good action movie, and failed at being a good Star Trek movie. As Frakes is quoted in this article, a good Trek movie would have had more of the Wedding scene. There would have been the camio by Whil Wheaton, etc. That is because the Riker/Troi relationship is important to TNG lore. Also, the TNG crew seemed to solve every problem with a more action movie answer and less of a Star Trek answer…so….

That’s what I go….what do you guys think?

By: Chris M

Chris M — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:14:36 +0000

Let’s just hope thy’re right about Shatner being in the movie!

By: trektacular

trektacular — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:55:05 +0000

#29
Like I said before it was going to be a reboot

By: trektacular

trektacular — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:53:34 +0000

#29
Its not only true its damn funny