BUT shatner can be back as kirk – without destroying the story.
In one scene in the nexus, Whoopy appears and tells picard why she is still here (and on the enterprise): a shadow of the person, that was in the nexus, remains in it: So, a shadow of kirk ist still alive! But only in the nexus… whatever, a little hope for a rebirth of kirk remains.

He said, “and studio executives still hope to convince William Shatner to suit up as Captain Kirk one more time.”

He may have meant that Studio executives want a way to get Mr. Shatner into the film because it would be one more component to introducing new actors while retaining the old ones.

By the comments by Abrams, etc. that they are trying to figure out a way to have Shatner in it without hurting the story may suggest that Nimoy is slated to play Spock in a much later time. Maybe some time period after Kirk was killed off. And what a dumb way to kill off a character. Kirk had gotten out of more dangerous situations than the one he was in, but it seems that the later writers of Star Trek never really understood that if you are going to kill off a key character, let in go down in glory. Case in point, Trip Tucker’s lame death.

But I digress. Anyways, maybe Spock right now is in the script and he is like 200 years old, or so. Maybe even dying and reflects on the old days and this is how we the audience–old and new alike–are reintroduced to the young crew of the 2260s?

This is all just specualtion. What I do know is that Lord Garth Formerly of Izar is right. The new Flash Gordon is terrible. How could they screw up something so obvious. Flash Gordon should have been done more like the Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, or even the fun camy Hercules shows, in my opinion.

After having lurked on a number of Trek blogs, boards, newsgroups, etc. and seeing so many negative comments about STXI, I’m reminded of a little native-Atlantan joke I heard recently and have adapted for the negative Trekkies:

Q: How many Trekkies does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Three: One to change the bulb, and the other two to talk about how great the old one was and to b**** about how much the new one is going to suck.

Y’all live long and prosper, y’heah?

PS: Anthony, you’re doing a fantastic job with this site! LOVE IT!

The Old Spock, remembering what was and what might have been, or could have been. His human half exposing him to regrets and second guesses.
Young Kirk could be the ‘hero’ with the story still focusing on Spock by showing Kirk and others through Spock’s eyes.
And there is always something profoundly more haunting about watching characters develop when you already know what will become of them. Seeing old Kirk and Spock converse right before Kirk sets off on the maiden voyage of Enterprise B could be a truly stirring cinematic moment.
Seeing the young Kirk and Spock at the last scene of the film, victorious and looking towards an endless future juxtaposed against the old Spock, tired, weary and even remorseful at the loss of friends and the passage of time, well, it could be great.

The movie also needs an Obi-wan type of character. An old and wise person, through who’s instructions and teachings to Kirk and Spock, will give us greater insight into the how’s and why’s of who they are. And whos death could provide the emotional and dramatic drive of the film. Young Kirk mastering, and learning the limitations of his ego in seeking revenge/justice. Young Spock beginning the struggle between his human and vulcan sides, and acceptance of both’s strengths and weaknesses.

#255 — I really like that idea. I think it would do a great job bridging the two eras of TOS and might bring some kind of closure regarding what exactly was going on for Spock just prior to and just after Kirk’s two “deaths” (on Enterprise B and on Veridian III) without focusing too much on Generations.

no joke – it was really weird..actually it was the night b4 the comic con stuff with Nimoy & Quinto being annouced etc…

anyone wants to know more about my dream ask away….

If there’s a book, I read it. If there’s a spoiler, I find it. I would love to be surprised to find out he’s in the move, and not know it unti l see it in December, 2008.

Skin of Evil is a very UNDERRATED episode; written by the GREAT Joseph Stefano (The creator of the Original Outer Limits). People focus on the “tar slick” alien, but the story was good…creepy…

As for Yar’s death: Not everyone gets a “hero’s death”. So, it seemed somewhat realistic to me. And, I thought the end of the episode with the memorial service and Data’s moment was one of the best character moments in the series.

Now that would be one of the best fictional deaths ever! ^_^
Though I think Tasha Yar’s was the worst…random and pointless. But I agree #255, I would LOVE to see the first meeting between the two. My excited slash fan self is very curious of their beginnings.