Comments on: Quinto On Spock’s Origins in the Prequel + Possible Sequels

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TrekLog » Blog Archive » Trek XI - Newsflash — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:51:14 +0000

[...] Was ist eigentlich seit der letzten Convention alles passiert? Eigentlich viel (was Meldungen des Trek Movie Report angeht) und zugleich doch recht wenig! Zunächst einmal hat sich das Casting-Karussell ein wenig weitergedreht. Nicht Sydney Poitier, sondern eine junge Dame namens Zoe Saldana wurde für die Rolle des Kommunikationsoffiziers der Enterprise, Nyota Uhura, hochoffiziell gecastet und unter Vertrag genommen. Somit sind schon 3 Mitglieder der Originalcharaktere gecastet worden: Spock, Chekov und Uhura! Als nächstes wird wohl der Chefingenieur Scotty gecastet werden, denn Berichten zufolge wird derzeit nach einem Darsteller gesucht! Daniel Dae Kim aus Lost (hat auch schon bei Star Trek: Voyager Gastauftritte gehabt) gilt ebenso als heißer Kandidat für die Rolle des Navigators Hikaru Sulu, aber wir Leser wissen ja, dass es dahingehend gleich mehrere Bewerbungen zu geben scheint. Der neue Spock-Darsteller Zachary Quinto bereitet sich hingegen ganz speziell auf seine Rolle vor. Anstelle des intensiven Studiums alte Star Trek-Episoden versucht er, sich mit der Person hinter Spock, Leonard Nimoy, zu beschäftigen. Somit verbringen die beiden sehr viel Zeit miteinander und laden sich gegenseitig zum Essen ein, wenngleich die Mythologie, d.h. die vulkanisch-romulanischen Ursprünge, dennoch in Quintos Interesse zu liegen scheint. Über die Plot-Details zu Star Trek XI hatte ich jüngst schon einen Kommentar abgegeben, und laut Quinto handelt es sich bei Trek XI um ein Projekt, dass weitere Fortsetzungen wahrscheinlich macht… damit bestätigt er auch den Wunsch des Autorenteams Orci und Kurtzman, die sich beide ebenso Fortsetzungen erhoffen würden. Zuguterletzt kann man noch sagen, dass nebenbei Russell Crowe kurzzeitig als Bösewicht im Gespräch war (was jedoch Hinweise auf das gesuchte Kaliber des gesuchten Darstellers gibt) und dass das uralte Jennifer Garner Gerücht im Zusammenhang mit einer Liebesaffäre Spock’s wieder aufgetaucht ist. Übrigens muss es sich bei dieser Liebesaffäre keinesfalls um ein Produkt des Pon Farr handeln, denn der neue Spock wird wesentlich emotionaler sein und damit wohl an Nimoy’s Darstellung aus dem ersten Pilotfilm The Cage anknüpfen. Trek ist also in aller Munde und wir haben dahingehend wohl noch spannende Zeiten vor uns… [...]

By: Joe Burns

Joe Burns — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:20:27 +0000

39 – I’ve got the sense that in Spock’s early years in Star Fleet, he was “leaving Vulcan behind” and fitting in, as well as getting in touch with his human side. In WNMHGB, I feel like he’s most of the way in his change from the shrill junior officer. Perhaps the change from gold to blue (uniform)represents his taking on the science officer duties after becoming the XO, a seemingly strange distraction from command duties.. unless it’s part of a personal journey. Perhaps Spock realized he was running from his Vulcan side, and that he was losing something important. An emotional decision that ended badly? If he had been in control, things would have been different…..

Did anyone see the **SPOILER ALERT** Moriarity article over at aintitcoolnews?
If the intimations are true we could see “violations” of canon without violating canon, LOL! Are we *sure * Brannon Braga is not involved? Heheh.
The article I refer to is spoiler-heavy, but not this post. You should stay away from that article if you don’t want to know anything, though if it’s true I think everyone will know before it gets released, it’s too big.

By: GraniteTrek

GraniteTrek — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:36:06 +0000

I think there’s a lot of canon already out there to support the idea that Spock was more emotional when he was younger – the character’s portrayal in the original pilot (which became canon when it became part of “The Menagerie”) and his portrayal in the second pilot both point to him being more outwardly emotional. When I think of the Spock character in the series versus the movies, I get the impression that the older Spock in the movies was more at peace with himself, whereas even in the later TOS episodes, the feeling you get from the character is that he’s, well, a bit sharper and more tense (most of the time), indicating that more is happening under the surface. When you’re still trying to find your place in the universe, a journey younger Spock needs to go through due to the conflicts inherent in his mixed heritage and his father’s disapproval, I would think that would make him more emotional, and I suspect the changes resulting from the transition to the young, fiery Kirk from the older and burnt-out (by his own admission) Pike would be unsettling (a bit like when you start a new job). It makes sense then that Spock will be more emotional than we saw him at other times.

By: Tassieboy

Tassieboy — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:49:54 +0000

I don’t agree with the ‘TMP was the only movie’ thing. The only films that really felt like extended tv epsides to me were ST5 and Insurrection.

The director’s edition of TMP was a great improvement. I was very pleased with it.

By: Fireoftime

Fireoftime — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:05:59 +0000

I’d think the best way to handle a multiple picture deal, would be to have one story, cut up into three parts. Because it’s kinda hard to have very much drama in movie after movie when we already know what happens to the principle characters! Theres no fear that Kirk or Spock or any of the others will die in their first mission out.
Obviously we will get to see Kirks relationship with Dr. Carol Marcus and even the birth of David Marcus, so there is one plot point to look forward to.
And of course Spocks relationship with his father.
But you have to wonder how they can stretch this out into a few films, keep it engaging and dramatic, and not trip over the already established time line from TOS.
No expert here, but I think a Lord of the RIngs type Trilogy would work best. It would allow a “just before” time period, and not cut into TOS’s plot points.

just an opinion…

By: Charley W

Charley W — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:37:04 +0000

#35- T’Pring was the one I meant. Thanks for the correction.

By: Etha Williams

Etha Williams — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:31:54 +0000

#26 — with regards to TMP’s epic cinematographic style, I agree, it was a very “movie” type movie rather than seeming more like a long tv episode. However, instead of simply “moving at its own speed, disregarding a lot of the necessities of hour-long television,” I think the directors of TMP took it waaaaaaaaay too far, and instead made it move *too* slowly in order to try fit the necessities of two-hour long feature films. Probably because the plot *was* initially intended for a TV episode.

Nevertheless, despite it’s dragging pace, TMP has always been one of my favorites of the movies for its plot and characterizations.

#34 — I doubt T’Pris will be in it since she appeared only in a non-canon novel. T’Pring would be much more likely than T’Pris (and, for that matter, T’Pau).

By: Charley W

Charley W — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:53:57 +0000

#25- if Quinto is truly a good actor, he will play it NOT “as he wants”, but “as how he is DIRECTED. There is a difference.

It’s looking more and more like this movie is going to be more ‘Young Mr. Spock” than the “Adventures of Young Indiana, oops Iowa, Kirk”. Realizing that changes a lot of expectations, such as the reduction of demand for Shatner (therefore avoiding the whole ‘JTK’s Dead’ problem. Too bad, with 2 or 3 years between pictures, they may have lost the chance to have Shatner reprise Kirk (or some other cameo). WS’s tricks, at whatever level he was trying to influence things, may have backfired on him, although I personally think he ended up pricing himself out (demanded too much $$).

Without Kirk as the focus (I’m still sure the character will play a major role, and the stretching out of picking an actor is deliberate), a lot of things change- gone probably is Kirk’s backstory, Iowa, Sam, Ruth, etc. We may still see the Academy, and Capt Garrovick though. If we see Kirk asuming command of the 1701 as implied by the ages asked for in the casting call, we will probably see GMitchell. There may be instead a new Sarek, Amanda, Leila, even T’Pau and T’Pris (spelling?).

By: Shatner_Fan_2000

Shatner_Fan_2000 — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:29:25 +0000

I really enjoyed the director’s cut of TMP, with one minor exception. One line was changed that didn’t make much sense at all to me. In the scene where McCoy confronts Kirk in his quarters about The Captain’s harsh attitude, we join the argument already in progress. In the original version, we first hear Kirk say, “Get out of here, Bones.” In the new version of that scene, the line is replaced with Kirk saying, “Make your point, doctor.” IMO, the first version was the stronger of the two.

The new CGI work on Vulcan sure looked awesome, though.

By: Adam Cohen

Adam Cohen — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:14:14 +0000

#30 Yes, Greg is correct, the Director’s Edition and the original are essentially the same movie, but that’s a testament to the tasteful choices Wise and Dochterman made in updated TMP for the DVD. There’s no “Special Edition” overkill here– the FX work is augmented in parts and some scenes are cut differently too. Otherwise, it’s the same adventure– bombastic and ambitious.