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‘Star Trek’ Producer & Writers On The Two Spocks + New Comic-Con Photos August 26, 2007

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

In their coverage of Comic-Con 2007 Star Trek Magazine talked to Star Trek producer Damon Lindelof and screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci about the introduction of the two Spocks. Lindelof noted the excitement at Comic-Con and said that is what they want for the film: "the pure magic of seeing Zach Quinto and Leonard Nimoy in a room together for the first time is exactly the magic we’re trying to put on the screen. Mr Spock is a character that transcends sci-fi, he’s almost mythic." The writers talked about how important it was to them (and the script) for Nimoy to agree to do the film:

We knew the odds that our script would actually lure Nimoy were about a million to one, but it was a gamble we had to take, even knowing that if he said no, the whole thing was for nothing. To have him sign on and then manage to also get Zachary Quinto, who everyone can see is going to be an inspired heir to this legacy, is like winning the lotto twice in a row. For a couple of Trek fans, this is a dream we hope we don’t wake up from.

…More in the latest issue of Star Trek Magazine. See below for new images from Comic-Con

the following are Paramount’s official press kit images (and official captions) from  Comic-Con 2007

[click images to enlarge] 

 
(Left to right) At the Paramount Pictures/DreamWorks Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies panel at the Comic-Con International Convention in San Diego, California on July 26, 2007, screenwriter Roberto Orci, actor Leonard Nimoy, producer Damon Lindelof, actor Zachary Quinto, producer/director J. J. Abrams, screenwriter Alex Kurtzman, producer Bryan Burk and executive producer Stratton Leopold appeared to discuss their upcoming “Star Trek” adventure.

 


At the Paramount Pictures/DreamWorks Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies panel at the Comic-Con International Convention in San Diego, California on July 26, 2007, actor Zachary Quinto (left), who was announced as the new Mr. Spock in the upcoming “Star Trek” motion picture, shakes hands with the man who created the role, actor Leonard Nimoy (right)

 


At the Paramount Pictures/DreamWorks Pictures and Nickelodeon Moviespanel at the Comic-Con International Convention in San Diego, California on July 26, 2007, actor Zachary Quinto (left), who was announced as the new Mr. Spock in the upcoming “Star Trek” motion picture, takes the stage with the man who created the role, actor Leonard Nimoy (right) 

 


 At the Paramount Pictures/DreamWorks Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies panel at the Comic-Con International Convention in San Diego,California on July 26, 2007, actor Zachary Quinto (left), who was announced as the new Mr. Spock in the upcoming “Star Trek” motion picture, and the man who created the role, actor Leonard Nimoy (right), are introduced to the audience

 


 At the Paramount Pictures/DreamWorks Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies panel at the Comic-Con International Convention in San Diego,California on July 26, 2007, director/producer J.J. Abrams made a major casting announcement for his upcoming “Star Trek” film

 

Photos Credit: Dan Steinberg, © 2007 DreamWorks LLC and Paramount Pictures.

Comments

1. Mike J. Hafezi - August 26, 2007

This should be a fun movie. J.J. Abrams, the creator of Lost, is the director, Zachary Quinto, the villian Sylar of Heroes, is the young Mr. Spock, and the best part is, Leonard Nimoy is playing the elder Mr. Spock for the last time. We don’t have a young Captain Kirk yet, but I have a way to bring back William Shatner as the elder Captain Kirk. I just wrote a letter to Paramount yesterday, and I’m going to send it tomorrow.

2. Nelson - August 26, 2007

Magic indeed, I look forward to see how that translates into the film!

3. trekmaster - August 26, 2007

My god, so many articles in one day. I better sum up the headlines be up to date with my translations…

4. modesto! - August 26, 2007

love the choice for the younger mr.spock, and its great to see mr.nimoy back on screen again! im more than excited to see this movie get started!!
they got the spocks right , i hope they get the big man himself right too! not just any actor can play kirk, it has to be someone special ,and has all the arrogance and special touch that made that character come alive!bill is capt kirk and forever will be! so i hope and pray that lighting strikes twice when it comes to capt kirk, I love to see the new younger kirk not only look like him but embraces the heart soul and quliaties that made this character memorable. What made the original series so special was its characters and stories not the visual effects and i hope that remains true in the new star trek movie! So lets beam up again, to a new adventure! Itll be great to see the enterprise warping on the screen again!

5. 1701 over Gotham City - August 26, 2007

No telling if this will be the last outing for Nimoy as Spock… this is a multiple film deal, Quinto revealed. In any case, Nimoy’s endorsement gives me the greatest hope.

And Shatner will be in it, I have faith. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it’s announced once casting is confirmed for young Kirk.

6. Kirk, James T. - August 26, 2007

Im just so excited about this movie – since i began to watch Star Trek back in 1994 (ok im a youngling) i have never felt such a sence of utter excitement for one film!

7. VulcanBabe - August 26, 2007

Totally agreed there, #6.
Star Trek has something Star Wars and all the other sci-fi movies will never have–a sense of some sort of goal ahead, something that humans will eventually be able to reach. There’s so much hope, so much love, so much intense feeling about it…that I just love ST. Thank God for ST XI and Nimoy’s blessings. Now we just need Shatner…and fast, lol.

8. Jeffrey S. Nelson - August 26, 2007

Please don’t leave out The Shat.

9. SirMartman - August 26, 2007

Come on Mr Shatner,, where are yaa !!

:-)

10. THEETrekMaster - August 26, 2007

Here’s a cool idea! Old Spock finds himself in some kind of weird time paradox where he basically keeps reliving his live. Old Spock ceases to exist and BECOMES young Spock!

And he never gets out of the time paradox!

Pretty cool, huh?

11. the dax - August 26, 2007

I love the Shat, but he should not be in this movie:
Nimoy (naturally) looks much older than he did in “Unification” (TNG), so it would make more sense if the old Spock part is set in a post DS9 setting, like on Spock’s 200th birthday or something.
So even if Kirk pays a time traveling visit from the Nexus or something, that would seem strange and forced.
Not saying having Kirk back would not be totally awesome

12. Thomas - August 26, 2007

Please, no time paradoxes. Star Trek has done the time travel/paradox thing to death.
The dead horse is no longer being beaten, they’ve already sent it to the glue factory.

13. Jon - August 26, 2007

Since this film is being told from the point of view of an elder Spock it makes me wonder who he’s relating the story to.It would have to be someone in the recent Star Trek Next Gen future.Wonder if he’s still a Romulan abassador or if he’s moved on.

14. Thomas - August 26, 2007

I just had a thought: Supposing that the “old Spock” scenes are set in the 24th century, could it be possible that Spock could still be on Romulus? If so, could any of that possibly tie into the new movie? This is completely ignoring any books/other media, as they are not canon.

15. Thomas - August 26, 2007

#13,
Sorry to double-post, but when I wrote my second post, I hadn’t re-loaded the page and I didn’t know yours was there. I don’t want you to think that I was copying you.

16. Jon - August 26, 2007

13 No biggie

17. Jon - August 26, 2007

I mean…Great minds think alike

18. Greg2600 - August 26, 2007

If this film takes place after Nemesis, well, Romulus has gone to hell in a hand basket. I expect that Nimoy has a fairly important role, otherwise he probably wouldn’t have done it. Two possibilities come to my mind:

1. Some kind of long running conspiracy or sinister plot in the Federation or whatever, and Spock must go back in time or something, and the two meet.

2. Spock is recalling an adventure. His current whereabouts are mostly just for “canon” fodder.

19. Etha Williams - August 26, 2007

#13: “Since this film is being told from the point of view of an elder Spock…”

I don’t think it’s actually been said that this is from elder Spock’s point of view — we just know that he’s in it, and it seems to make sense that he’d be telling the story. But he might be part of a narrative being told from an entirely different point of view.

20. Jon - August 26, 2007

You re right.I don’t know what function elder Spock serves in the story.Just speculating

21. fred - August 26, 2007

it wound be nice to know what old spock is up to and the actor did say that this is a spock story! maybe he is on his way to earth to tell starfleet what he has been up to and on his way he recalls what happend when he first met captain kirk

22. 1701 over Gotham City - August 26, 2007

Not bad no. 10…
but Quantum Leap kinda played that card already :)

I’d almost gaurantee this will have absolutely nothing to do with the continuity of the TNG films, even casually. I’d be EXTREMELY surprised to hear any mention of Romulas in that context. Even if it is a flashback.

And yep, I want The Shat.
Remember, respect for canon or no, this is being made for a general audience. And if we have Nimoy, general audiences will wonder… “where is The Shat?”

23. Harry Ballz - August 26, 2007

#1 “I have a way to bring back William Shatner as the elder Captain Kirk”
Yeah, well, no disrespect, but fellow posters have come up with no less than 237 ways to bring Kirk back, so….more power to you!!!

24. THEETrekMaster - August 26, 2007

#22, True…it is kind of Quantum Leap-esq…lol. I agree also that I’ll be shocked if this ties into Next Gen at all. I think Paramount REALLY wants to get the bad taste of two Next Gen films (three if you count Generations) out of people’s mouths.

I can’t say I blame them — if so.

25. THEETrekMaster - August 26, 2007

#23 237 ways to bring back Kirk? Wow…lol!!!

26. Jon - August 26, 2007

23 That’s for a Next Gen reunion TV movie IMO.They (and Shatner) did it .It’s up to them to fix it .But ,personally,I don’t see how Abrams and co. should bother themselves with a cocamaimie Next Gen Kirk resusitstion/canon fixer upper story.

27. Jon - August 26, 2007

#26 was to Harry’s #23 post

28. StillKirok - August 26, 2007

#26–I think the plot itself is the easiest part. As someone else said, there have been 237 plus different ways to bring Shatner into the movie from people on this board alone. The hard part is getting Paramount and Shatner to just do it already. Nimoy says the movie would be better with Shatner in it. He’s not alone.

They did a great job with the Spocks. Now get the Kirks.

29. Jon - August 26, 2007

I still think the Kirk thing is best left to a Next Gen TV reunion movie for the trekkies.

30. THEETrekMaster - August 26, 2007

Every movie should be “for the trekkies” or something is wrong. I am not sure when and how that became a bad thing. I still believe it’s possible to make a movie “for the trekkies” that the general movie-going public would enjoy as well. You mean to tell me that if for example The Doomsday Machine was a feature film no one would go see it? My point is, I think something like that would draw people in…”trekkies” or not…and that’s classic Trek storytelling at it’s best!

31. diabolk - August 26, 2007

It would be cool if it turned out to be a echo of TAS “Yesteryear” where an older Spock intervenes for good, in an unknown capacity, in the life of his younger self…

32. diabolk - August 26, 2007

And his initial reason for being at the Guardian is to try to save Kirk!

33. diabolk - August 26, 2007

WHICH HE DOES!

34. Harry Ballz - August 26, 2007

Can we please get off mundane topics like bringing Kirk back and get on to more important matters, such as the size and shape of nacelle caps? After all, Shatner will “shuffle off this mortal coil” soon enough, and we won’t have to worry whether he will EVER reprise the role one last time………….there, don’t you feel better?

35. Xai - August 26, 2007

I really don’t think this can be an “elder Spock tells the tale…” movie. Here’s why.
ZQ mentioned possible sequels to XI. It would be tough to have two or three movies of this type without looking like a series of lame”I remember when’s” … or am I just not being imaginative enough?

36. StillKirok - August 26, 2007

Xai–just because Quinto is signed on for sequels doesn’t mean Nimoy is. I don’t think one thing has to do with another. Nimoy’s role could be flashback, or not, but the sequel thing probably has little to do with that.

37. Noleuser - August 26, 2007

I just wish we could get some more casting news, or something about the plot ALREADY!

38. trektacular - August 26, 2007

Why do all the first posters, when there is a new JJ abrams article, always gush like its the first time they’ve ever heard of it?

39. Jeff - August 26, 2007

How do you know J. J. Abrams is really an old-school geek? Check out the “Infocom” t-shirt.

40. Anthony Pascale - August 26, 2007

that is a good point Jeff…i can still remember play zork and the HHGTTG game on the Apple II…good time

That is the thing about Lindelof, Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman…they are us just with big time jobs in Hollywood.

41. Woulfe - August 26, 2007

The Cast And Crew look great together in that photo !

I expect there to me more people added to the rouster as we get closer to filming the movie in November.

Maybe a photo of the extended cast and crew too ;)

- W -
* It’d be nice *

42. steve623 - August 26, 2007

Wow, are Nimoy and Quinto that tall or is every else just that short?

“That is the thing about Lindelof, Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman…they are us just with big time jobs in Hollywood.”

And a lot more money.

43. Apple Core Baltimore - August 26, 2007

I was thinking… Are they gonna make Spock greener? I’ve noticed that he’s got some red in his skin but that doesn’t make much sense to me. Star Wars so ripped off Star Trek it’s not even funny. Star Wars sucks!

44. Thomas - August 26, 2007

I’m almost to the point where it seems like the easiest way to bring back Kirk is by Spock finding his body on Veridian III and placing his intact head in a jar ala “Futurama”. It could even spawn its’ own sequel’ “They Saved Kirk’s Brain!”

45. Harry Ballz - August 27, 2007

“Kirk’s brain”!! Oooh, now there’s an episode I would have loved! ‘Course, with the part of his anatomy that the womanizing captain thought with, it probably wouldn’t have made it past the NBC censors!

46. Harry Ballz - August 27, 2007

Is it possible that Abrams, who is known to map out storyline arcs well in advance, has already got a trilogy plot fleshed out? If so, he will probably film all of Nimoy’s “bits” in front of a “blue screen” this year, then slot them in to the three films, over the next decade, as he needs them. This would go a long way to explaining the cryptic remarks about an elderly Spock being an influence to the younger one “now and beyond”. Not to mention, with Nimoy’s advanced age, getting his performance for all three films “in the can” now would be only logical! Heh, heh, heh……sorry, couldn’t resist!

47. Doc - August 27, 2007

43:

Pray tell how Star Wars “so ripped pff Star Trek it’s not even funny?”

Point 1: Lucas wanted to make Flash Gordon a film. He could not get the rights to it so he decided to make a film based off of Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers.

Point 2: Lucas based many crucial concepts and characters off other subjects he loved: Greek, Roman, Norse, Old Brithish, and Japanese Mythology, the Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhists Religion, American, Roman, and German history, films by Fritz Lang, Akira Kurosawa, Sergio Leonem, John Ford, Howard Hawks, and again I stress the importance of the old Flash Gordon and Buck Roger serials. I don’t know if Star Trek played any role. It probably did but nor more than any of the above mentioned. And I know that there are obvious examples of Flash Gordon Lang and Kurosawa. But all I know for Star Trek is a possible reference to it in Cloud City.

Point 3: The aliens in Star Wars were way different than in Star Trek. Rememeber, Star Wars–Now called Episode 4 A New Hope came out in 1977. The aliens look way different than anything in any of the origianl shows. In fact, it was the success of Star Wars that caused the Motion Picture into being made. And in the Motion Picture, for the first time, we see aliens that don’t look quite human!

Point 4. Star Wars is like Jidai Gekki–the old Japanese word for old story with a samurai theme. It also has gun slingers that a reminiscent of the real life American Western’s shootists. The Rebellion is like the resistance of WW II. The Empire takes from the Roman Empire and the Nazis. The characters are nothing like Star Trek.

You may not like Star Wars But I love it!

In fact, to ME, while Star Trek is all right, Star Wars is great and has yet to be topped. But this is just a matter of opinion.

Truth is Gene Roddenbarry and George Lucas may have been inspired by some of the same films, myths, ideals, etc. And since Star Trek came first, it may have played a role, but probably a small one, IN Star Wars. In fact, if it had played a big role, Lucas would have said so to get the first Star Wats film going. Everyone though Lucas was nuts when he said he wanted to make a movie like the old Flash Grodon serials he watched as a kid!

But I guess that this doesn’t matter. Ultimately what matters is the film makers. And if I am not mistaken, Abrams told Entertainment Weekly that while he enjoyed the old Star Trek films, he was not a trekker or trekkie. In fact, he said he was more of a Star Wars fan!

48. trektacular - August 27, 2007

Lucas watched Star Trek while writing Star Wars there are things that prove this.
1. words like jettison and parsec
2. cloud city
3. creatures in Journey to Babel resembling the cantina in SW
4. some sound effects in ST used in SW

49. ZoomZoom - August 27, 2007

#47 “And if I am not mistaken, Abrams told Entertainment Weekly that while he enjoyed the old Star Trek films, he was not a trekker or trekkie. In fact, he said he was more of a Star Wars fan!”

Lets hope that fact doesn’t unfluence Trek ’08 too much! Star Trek is very different than Star Wars – and needs to stay that way.

50. mike - August 27, 2007

#48 trektacular wrote:

“Lucas watched Star Trek while writing Star Wars there are things that prove this.
1. words like jettison and parsec
2. cloud city
3. creatures in Journey to Babel resembling the cantina in SW
4. some sound effects in ST used in SW”

Oh brother…..the word jettison did not exist before Trek….ya right….hahaha.

Parsec……..oh man come on

Cloud City……go look at old comic books…..not a new idea, even when Trek was on

Come on people

51. trektacular - August 27, 2007

#50
I don’t think its that strange that Lucas maybe got most of these things from Trek, he wasn’t that great a writer or a sci fi nut not to mention much of a reader, so I don’t find it odd that he might have got these things from Trek.
btw TOS had a pulpy feel more closely in line with SW than the other series, they are not as far removed as you would think

52. leony - August 27, 2007

Star Trek is science fiction and trying to put an emphasis on the science aspect unless that gets in the way of telling a story. Star Wars is fantasy which I personally do not especially care for. So, yes, please keep these two as separate from one another as possible.

I was somewhat dissatisfied with Unification as it left Spock forever standing there on Romulus. It would be nice to give the character some closure. Whatever one might say about Generations, it at least did that for Kirk.

Umm, Romulus has gone to pieces? Sorry, but I did not even make it halfway through Nemesis. Since probably more people have not seen that film than those who have, can we not just discount it from canon? Just kidding. But I remember very well from before Nemesis hit the theaters, that there was a lot of hype about John Logan being a big fan of Trek. So maybe we should not put too much weight on whether Abrams and his team are fans or not. What matters is that they have hopefully done their homework and researched what made TOS work and got an understanding of it. I do not think you have to be a fan to do that. Especially since as fans we all are drawn to different aspects of the show.

53. Shatner_Fan_2000 - August 27, 2007

From the outset, Star Trek was meant to be a serious vehicle for telling science fiction stories about the future of humankind. Star Wars, which I also enjoy, is pure fantasy. If you took it out of space and changed it to a sword & sandal epic, it would work just the same. Sci-fi is the core of Star Trek; it is merely the set dressing of Star Wars. The 2 are nothing alike.

54. David_is_dead - August 27, 2007

Now that they’ve done such a good job casting Spock. They need to cast a really good Kirk.

I’ve actually been hearing rumours that James Roday – star of the TV show Psych – has been approached to play Kirk. That would be awesome.

55. Woulfe - August 27, 2007

The Truth

If Trek hadn’t been a success in syndication, there’d be no Star Wars, period.

No studio would of touched Star Wars if Trek hadn’t been a huge success in syndication.

How do I know this ?

George Lucas said so !

Yet all the Star Wars geeks refuse to give Trek any credit because Star Wars is “So much better then that Trek stuff.”

Yea, yea, yea, keep trying to tell yourself that guys, it’s not the truth.

56. JC - August 27, 2007

#55 You should google..”.Triumph the comic insult daog at the star wars premiere”. Good therapy .sorry i don’t know how to send a link.Anybody?

57. JC - August 27, 2007

dog.not daog

58. Apple Core Baltimore - August 27, 2007

Doc

I ment that Spock has Green blood and Yoda is also green. Lucus isn’t that great and those last 3 Star Wars movies were sooooo stupid!!! Aniken Skywalker was dumb. Star Trek is far superior to Star Wars in every way. J J Abrams better recognize!

59. sean - August 27, 2007

Oh hell, it’s a nerd-off! Let’s drop the cage and let them work out their aggression. Two men enter, one man leave!

60. brady - August 27, 2007

2 nerds enter…..no MAN leaves lol

61. Harry Ballz - August 27, 2007

Ladies and gentlemen……let’s get ready to…….GRUMBLE!!!

62. Etha Williams - August 27, 2007

#30 — I agree that it’s absolutely possible (and important) to make this a film that appeals to both Trekkies and the general public — JJ has said he wants to do it, so let’s just hope he manages to make it so!

Re: the Star Trek/Star Wars debate — As a disclaimer, I am no great fan of Star Wars. I do think that Star Wars took a lot of cues from Trek (eg, photon torpedoes/proton torpedoes…I very much doubt that’s a coincidence). But there’s nothing wrong with borrowing from things that came before as long as you’re not blatantly ripping them off — and I think it’s pretty obvious that Star Wars is not just a rip off of Star Trek — there are PLENTY of differences.

63. Marvin the Martian - August 27, 2007

Yeah, but how does Star Trek and Star Wars compare to the awesomeness of The Lord of the Rings? Huh? Huh?

/upping the nerd quotient

64. Harry Ballz - August 27, 2007

Lord of the Rings? Blechh!! Go over a hill, get into a battle….go over a hill, get into a battle….go over….well, you get the idea! Boring!!!!!

65. Paul - August 27, 2007

re:63 First of all Kirk would’ve used the Enterprise’s weapons systems to decimate the orc army, he could so take aragorn in a fight and nailed that hot princess and arwen, told sam and frodo to get a room, and still have time to take out the death star, nail princess leia, beat han solo in a draw and then finish the day with a 3-d chess match with spock

66. JC - August 27, 2007

Lucas w/Star Wars lifted alot from Flash Gordon the way Roddenberry lifted ideas from Forbidden Planet

67. Harry Ballz - August 27, 2007

Forbidden Planet started it all! All hail Forbidden Planet!!

68. Cranston - August 27, 2007

OK, I’m going to try to edge past all of the silly fanboy posturing and comment on the article above, particularly this quote:

“We knew the odds that our script would actually lure Nimoy were about a million to one, but it was a gamble we had to take, even knowing that if he said no, the whole thing was for nothing.”

This is the first thing that I’ve heard that really makes it sound to me like Nimoy’s older Spock is actually really, really integral to the story. This quote seems to imply that if Nimoy didn’t want to do the film, that they’d actually have to rework the thing fundamentally (“the whole thing was for nothing.”) I may be reading too much in, of course, but this really does not sound like a “old Spock tells [person X] a story about his youth.”

69. Etha Williams - August 27, 2007

#68 — That’s how I read it, too.

70. Anthony Pascale - August 27, 2007

well actually nimoy himself said as much in hiis interview with trekmovie.com…and Abrams said the film was spock centric in his interview with EW.

It is my understanding that (older) Spock is essential to the film and not just a \’bookend\’

71. Cranston - August 27, 2007

#70 Anthony — That’s pretty cool. I’d interpreted Nimoy’s earlier remark to mean that the older-Spock role was meaty and/or meaningful, but that didn’t in itself imply to me that the whole enterprise depended on his participation. It would be possible for there to be an older-Spock bookend role that did also include some good, meaningful character work for him (and maybe even provide a nice wrap-up for Spock’s lifelong character arc), but one that could still be excised from the movie without having to rethink the early-Spock storyline. But the idea that they would actually have to rework the story significantly if Nimoy didn’t participate implies a whole other level of “ingetral”ness, at least to me.

I’m becoming very interested in this one.

72. Harry Ballz - August 27, 2007

Well, not to be morbid, but if Nimoy is THAT essential to the film, then they better get on with it! He’s not getting any younger, you know! (yeah, yeah, I know…neither are we!)

73. TB - August 28, 2007

James Roday for Kirk??? He’d be worse than that British singer that was being bandied about. And they laughed when I suggested Jensen Ackles.

74. snake - August 28, 2007

I always assumed that this new film would be ‘Kirk Begins’ until i read that news thread here a few weeks ago about how it would be more ‘Spock Begins’

And I’ve really come around to thinking that they are right to center on Spock…

Spock is the ‘quinto’-sential Star Trek character…i mean i know twas The Shat who was hired as the star but its really all became more about Nimoy and Spock…(both in front and behind the camara)

Spock was there in The Cage…He went from being a co-star/character to a total equal to Kirk/Shatner…He even had one of the films named after him…and when he died it was a BIG DEAL…so much so they had to bring him back…In fact movies 1-6 were pretty much more about Spock than they were Kirk…

As one of TMP producers stated on the dvd ‘to have Star Trek without Spock would be like having a car without wheels.’ Even Meyer said in his commentary on TWOK dvd that he opened the film with coming out of Spocks ear because he felt that his pointed ears were the quinesstinal Star Trek image…

I myself prefer Kirk/Shatner to Spock/Nimoy but theres no denying that Spock is perhaps the slightly more ‘Star Trek’ character…

75. trektacular - August 29, 2007

Spock was the most popular character back in the day, Nimoy was even nominated for emmys back then

76. ZoomZoom - September 2, 2007

It is hard to think of one without the other though, isn’t it. Whenever Kirk or Spock were in anything without the other it felt very strange to me. And somewhat sad.

77. Doc - September 5, 2007

Last word on the Star Trek Star Wars issue.

I like them. I love Star Wars and I enjoy The original Star Trek. But some of you made comments that just prove that you are talking without reading.

Spock had green blood and Yoda was green? Really? There were not literally hundreds of little green men films in the 1950s and 1940s?

One said Lucas was not a sci-fi fan. That poster is just wrong. That’s why his first movie was THX 3811 a sci fi movie that opens with old Buck Rogers. Lucas said he loved sci fi Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers are but two examples.

Star Wars would not have been made if it weren’t for Star Trek. That may be partically true, but Planet of the Apes gets just as much credit. Lucas said he wanted to make a Flash Gordon. He could not get the rights. He made Star Wars.

Photon Torpedos (and I could be wrong but where are they mentioned in any of the original three or three prequils?), words like jettison and parsec were around a long time before Star Trek. (check out some great sci-fi of the 30′s 40′s and 50′s)
cloud city–as I stated in my post earlier, this may have been inspired by Star Trek.
3. creatures in Journey to Babel resembling the cantina in SW. Nice try. Not quite. The aliens look quite different. As they should, Star Trek understandably had a smaller T.V. budget.
4. some sound effects in ST used in SW” Not because of Lucas. That would because of soundman Ben Burndt, I think that’s his name. I would have to look that up.

I’m not saying that Lucas was in no way inspired by Star Trek, or never borrowed anything from the show. But my point was that to say he “totally ripped off Star Trek” is just not the case. He was inspired just like the writers from Star Trek from a wide range of films and books sci fi and otherwise.

As for what you like and don’t like–don’t care. I like Star Trek too. I just happen to like Star Wars more and I really hate reading comments that are not true. Call me a fanboy if you want, but I have never dressed like my favorite sci-fi character–not since I was seven years old.

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