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The Remastered "Conscience of the King" airs this weekend…preview courtesy of STARTREK.COM (Also note the updated station/air time guide)
Oh, the honor…
Actually, I haven’t seen this episode in a long time, so I look forward to it…is there a lot to update?
Wanna bet the scene where McCoy tries to get Spock to have a drink with him gets cut for syndication?
that scene always gets cut.
I hope they are able to do some rotoscoping on that awful Planet Q “outdoor” set, which is one of the worst and least convinving they ever had.
Oh I just rememebred – there’s another ship in the episode that’s mentioned and Kirk talks to the captain, but you never see it in the original version of the show. The Astral Queen or something like that. Maybe we’ll get to see it this time, like the Antares in “Charlie X”.
Looks like the starfield visible through the observation deck portholes is moving. I’m pretty sure those stars weren’t moving before.
Those stars don’t move in the original. Now the question is, will we see the hanger deck from those windows. Are the stars moving in the correct direction?
Clip of the original shot on the observation deck..
Click on star light, star bright.
She certainly knows how to wrap her lips around the word “throbbing”, doesn’t she?
Doesn’t look like the changed the Planet Q city OR added the shuttlebay. Nice job on the stars outside the observation deck, however.
Ah. Great psychological cat and mouse game between Kodos & Kirk. A slight shift in the mood of the series after this episode’s final appearances of Riley & Rand.
I wonder what CBS-D will add to the shuttle observation deck, if anything.
I like how they sell the episode as a tragic love story. oh. by the way..there is a mention of khotus..or something. better ask riley!
“Conscience of the King” may not be one of Trek’s most exciting episodes (and certain important details, like the tense relationship between Kirk and
Spock, feel considerably off), but it happens to be one of its best-written–and Arnold Moss as the conscience-stricken mass murderer Kodos may very well have turned in TOS’ all-time best guest star performance.
I always cringe when Lenore(sp?) cries at the end. It’s like nails on a chalkboard to me.
nice commercial. This was a good episode.
Although the mighty Khotus is conscience stricken. One regret he dosent have is when he killed off a character from enterprise. Khotus knew deep in his heart that this may restore star trek canon. and that he would one day beg forgiveness for the crimes he was proud of. So ordered .
Signed khotus, Governor of Tarsus Four!
ahhhhh finally…..a solid favorite of mine
One of my all time favorite episodes with great acting and memorable lines.
“Because I’m the captain”! Kirk telling Spock on how he knew that the actors of the play will be coming aboard the Enterprise.
And this is last that we see of Yeoman Janice Rand (Grace Lee Whitney) on the show. I love the scene in which Yeoman see Lenore on the bridge with Kirk.
Even though she is only on for a few seconds in the episode, The look that she gives Lenore is simply classic!
It would be nice if they could add a shot of the view of the observation deck from the shuttlebay floor with some CGI Kirk and Lenore before they cut to the shot we’re used to of Kirk and Lenore walking along the deck. Its not necessary but it would be nice to establish that is where they are supposed to be. Would be nice for new Trek fans who haven’t pored over the blueprints like some of us have.
Uhura’s song is the highlight of this episode for me. Beautiful song, beautiful woman, beautiful voice. Enchanting.
Riley: Got milk?
Kodos was such a tragic figure, haunted by his error in judgement and morality choice. The guilt he carried contaminated Lenore and the insanity in her life was another price he had to pay. The phaser shot was a mercy in the end.
is it possible that these promos might not contain all the updated effects? Im sure there are different teams cutting the commercials. Sometimes CBS-D is working on pretty tight deadlines.
Doesn’t look like there will be any “The Menagerie” style remastering of the backdrop seen through the windows. Too bad. The original is just awful.
Perhaps they’ll include a quickie shot of the overloading phaser exploding outside the Enterprise. If I remember correctly, that hatch does lead to outer space and not some below-decks laundry room right? In all seriousness, I think the blurb accompanying the preview window says it all: This preview for the remastered version of “The Conscience of the King” shows the improved image quality apparent in all the restored episodes.
Nothing but image enhancement, and a couple of new ship shots, for this episode I wager.
Hopefully, they changed the recycled city backdrop from “The Menagerie”.
Loooking forward to this episode.
“Worlds may change, galaxies disintegrate, but a woman always remains a woman.”
I see it now on the trailer. The city backdrop was not changed. Probably too much to rotoscope.
2 & 3 — I only saw that scene for the first time a couple of months ago on Nick at Nite. Thank God somebody doesn’t butcher old TV shows. (“Care for a drop of the true, Spock?”)
For me, this episode looks like something recycled from another genre. Not that that’s necessarily bad, but it doesn’t quite make the transition without pain. Mostly, it highlights once again how crappy security does its job on a starship. Mysterious killer finds no trouble stealing a phaser, getting into the captain’s cabin, and sneaking into engineering. Hello! Who’s minding the gate, guys??
The other glaring problem is Lenore. She’s just too much of a dingbat, even for Kirk. “She’s an exciting creature,” says McCoy. Of course, he’s been drinking at that point.
There are nice character moments, but not really a great story here. Just a rehash from some western, cop show, or whatever. (I know, it’s supposed to be Shakespeare and the Stars, but that doesn’t quite work, either.)
“…it highlights once again how crappy security does its job on a starship. Mysterious killer finds no trouble stealing a phaser, getting into the captain’s cabin, and sneaking into engineering. Hello! Who’s minding the gate, guys??”
The sad part is, lame security is at work in a whole butt load of episodes… McCoy wacking the transporter room dude… Khan’s goons bowling their way into the engine room… on and on.
However – those, and many other things (including the terribly fake special effects) – never, ever got in the way of my pure, TOTAL ENJOYMENT of TOS!! Long live TOS, bay-bay
Okay, is it just me? Am I crazy? This is the one episode of Trek that puts me to sleep. It’s just boring. I don’t think remastered effects are going to make it any better. Anyone else really dislike this episode?
It’s not you. This one pretty much sucks.
I hated this episode as a kid. Now, at 52, it’s slightly more palatable…..
This episode debuts a really great score! One of the best that’s reused on later episodes.
#32: Maybe I’ll give it another chance and I’ll think differently this time. Funny thing was that I had all the episodes recorded on tape from their syndicated airings in the early 80s (stayed up until midnight on Saturdays every week for a year and half to catch them all…I was 12-13 y.o.)…all except this episode. All I knew was that I was missing one, and then I finally saw it (probably 15 years later). It was almost like the lost episode for me…and after seeing it I wished it would have stayed lost.
Good, solid episode! Good acting! Time for a Shakespeare festival! (Well, I missed the Lake Tahoe Shakespeare Festival this year.) :-)
Rich, I understand your feelings completely! Here’s an interesting intellectual exercise that seems to help me in some situations.
When you sit down to watch this episode, just picture the mindset of William Shatner at the time of filming. Here you are, a talented T.V. actor with a considerable resume under your belt. You’re now the star of this hot new sci-fi show with some episodes good, some not so good. Here comes this week’s script and, even though you have a Shakespearean background, you think it’s a piece of s**t!
Knowing that the show must go on, you forge ahead with the commitment to put the best dramatic “spin” you can on said storyline. Imagine being in Shatner’s shoes, knowing the success of the show rests squarely on your shoulders, and you’re being forced to perform crapola? It makes it entertaining to watch the episode in that context, to look for even a glimmer of disgust hiding behind the actor’s eyes….but, of course, they’re usually too professional to let even a hint of that show through…..the one exception to that was Doohan in ST:III, when they were stealing the Enterprise and he says to Kirk, “I’d be grateful Admiral if you’d give the word”. Just by tone of voice you could hear Jimmy’s disgust and disrespect for Shatner, the person. If you didn’t spot it the first time, go back and watch it again. It’s interesting when you spot it!
#36: Great suggestion Harry…perhaps I can find a few nuggets of discord in this ep…if of course I can stay awake.
What was with Kirk and some of these Flightly/ Ditzy women?
It’s either that or the Janice Lester/ Carol Marcus type. One would think Kirk was commitment-Phobic!
Assuming the ship is moving forward, the star movement is correct if the room is on the port side of the ship. We see the hangar deck observation windows behind Kirk in the preview and it’s totally dark so the lights are out on the hangar deck. If we could see anything we’d be seeing the forward and starboard area of the hangar through the windows. Since they have the hangar deck modeled it would have been neat to see it rotoscoped behind Kirk but that would have been a lot of work to do credibly.
I’m with Harry and you guys as well. I know that a lot of Trek fans like this one, but as a kid not so much. I know it sounds immature, but all the yapping, yapping, yapping, Lenore is cute but I always felt that Kirk was just foolin’ around, know what I mean? Nothing here for my 8 year old mind to wrap around. OK, maybe the phaser overload,but that was about it.
Ironically, I realized as I got older it provided some of the best background info on Kirk that was mentioned in TOS. But alas, too late. Me brain hath labeled it dullsville.
Of course when I say star movement is “correct” I mean correct for Star Trek. In dialog, Star Trek usually portrays travel time between stars in terms of days or at least many hours. If that were visualized realistically, we should never see star movement. Logically, if it takes even one hour to get from one star to the next closest star, you’re not going to pass any other stars during that whole hour. Most of the starfield would be so distant in comparison to your movement, the effect of parallax on most constellations would be pretty unnoticeable.
The static stars in the original were actually more realistic!
Harry, you’re hearing things! The line Doohan delivers in III is affectionate & nostalgic. I’m hard-pressed to detect any malice toward Shatner in the way he gives the line. Doohan was just as much a professional as Shatman.
Here is a piece of Trek trivia regarding the fate of communications officer Hoshi Sato from “Enterprise” courtesy of Wikipedia:
“She eventually marries a man named Takashi Kimura, and retires from Starfleet with the rank of Lieutenant commander. Sato and her husband die in 2246 when the colony where they live, Tarsus IV, is stricken by a food shortage, and Governor Kodos orders the deaths of half of the colony’s population. Hoshi and her husband are among those executed.”
-Just thought I’d share this.
Has anyone else noticed the unfortunate reason why Barbara (Lenore) Anderson’s face is photographed in soft-focus and half-shadow during several scenes of this episode? It was not for dramatic effect, although, fortunately, it can be interpreted that way. I wonder if they will attempt to correct the problem in re-mastering, although it would be fairly difficult. I only noticed this after watching the episode on DVD and it will almost certainly be even more noticeable in HD.
#13 Yeah, I always cringed when “shining brightness” came around. Got to the point where I would brace myself as it came around (I watched a LOT of Trek in the 70′s). For whatever reason, it just makes me shrug now. The scene with “…are you like that, Captain?” now, that is a riot that I was completely oblivious to in third grade. Heh.
The episode has grown on me. It has a strong story, some well-liked recurring characters, that early first season ambition and a phaser on overload! I truly adore “Beyond Antares;” I get cozy when that’s coming up. Not only Nichelle’s lovely rendition, but I love the whole tease with the milk. Just why was there no one in Engineering but Riley?
I’m okay with leaving the diorama, but if the shuttle observation scene is just stars and no shuttlebay action that’ll be a disappointment.
Given the camera angle – looking straight, not downwards – you probably wouldn’t see the actual shuttlebay floor, just the opposing wall. And from the preview, it looks like they didn’t even add the wall.
“Conscience” wasn’t one of my favorites back in the 1970s, but it’s really grown on me.
Great, another Season 1 remastered ep that is NOT
available on iTunes because NO eps have been added
in the past SIX MONTHS …. meanwhile everyone who
paid $57 for the ‘season pass’ is stuck with just 11 eps.
WAITING FOR SIX MONTHS. Are we going to
wait another six months before we contact our lawyers?
Okey, I agree with you. And although most avid trek watchers are smarter then the average bear, and may know this, is much more pleasing to the eye to have moving stars. There just needs to be something to let the audiance know “hey the ship is going somewhere” A static starfield gives the impression that the ship is not moving at all, no matter how sicentificly correct it is.
Save your money for when the DVD comes out ( itunes TOS fans)
Three words: “DOUBLE RED ALERT” !
Engon whats wrong with Lenores face?
> Has anyone else noticed the unfortunate reason why Barbara
> (Lenore) Anderson’s face is photographed in soft-focus and half-
> shadow during several scenes of this episode? It was not for
> dramatic effect, although, fortunately, it can be interpreted that way.
Uh, that was achieved with a soft-focus lens and with lighting. Used frequently in movie and t.v. productions of the day, this type of filming conveyed a romantic, glamourous look to the subject.
On close inspection, in certain scenes, Lenore appears to have some sort of small blemish on or just above her upper lip. In other scenes it is not present. You can see that there was an attempt made to cover it with lipstick and/or makeup. This appears to be the reason that her face is often half in shadow or turned to an angle that shows only one side of her face. It may also have led to the staging of the climactic shot in which only her eyes are illuminated. The problem comes and goes, probably owing to the episode being filmed out of sequence. All in all, the director and director of photography were very creative in finding solutions and Barbara Anderson remains both beautiful and mysterious.
For all you “Conscience” haters, I am shocked –shocked, I say! While there are no space battles, this ep addresses the last good war this world has seen, as well its toll on the human soul. If Kodos had been named Mengele or Hitler, then Kirk’s ruthlessness becomes clearer. If, instead of 2266, this story took place in 1966 and the place was eastern Europe or South America –well, then it would have been an episode of “Route 66″ or “Mission: Impossible.” And very likely would have been nominated for an Emmy.
43. – Hoshi and her husband are among those executed.”
-Just thought I’d share this.
Thanks. Because Enterprise ended on such a high note, we needed to bring it back down a notch.
Engon, are you implying that Lenore has space herpes?
Yeah, sorry about that. Of course you realize that Route 66, Mission Impossible, Mengele, and Hitler all kinda bored me when I was 8. And they didn’t have soft-focus kissy face and “thespian action”. like this one did.
and who doesn’t like hot soft-focus thespian action?
Eight year olds.
I don’t remember this episode at all. I watched Star Trek religiously when I came home from school in the 70′s, but must have changed the channel or fell asleep whenever this one came on. Now you guys have piqued my interest – I will have to check it out and see if I appreciate it better as an adult. Plus, Kodos the Executioner was linked to Sarek in Shatner’s book, “Avenger” – also very interesting.
“2 & 3 — I only saw that scene for the first time a couple of months ago on Nick at Nite. Thank God somebody doesn’t butcher old TV shows. (”Care for a drop of the true, Spock?”)”
Nick At Nite is actually TVLand (I make that mistake too, often) and TVLand shows butchered shows all the time. I have noticed that the cuts on Trek on TVLand match the cuts on Trek remastered (at least on the episodes I saw) so the Spock McCoy scene will probabaly be seen this weekend. Both the regular and remastered episodes must be provided pre-edited by Paramount/CBS.
40. Jackie — Ironically, I realized as I got older it provided some of the best background info on Kirk that was mentioned in TOS.
I agree, it’s an interesting tidbit, but it’s an odd thing to fit into what little we know of young Kirk. He grew up in Iowa but sometime around the age of 15 he was on a starving planet where some unnamed members of his family (?) were killed. We know Kirk and his brother survived. And then he entered Starfleet?
There’s precious little continuity in TOS. It would be interesting to get a line or two in XI or somewhere. I dunno. Sometimes, the little gems the writers throw in come back to bite us on the butt.
I mention it only in the context of idea that remastering a program originally designed to be broadcast over the air to a nation dominated by small B&W television receivers is something of a double edged sword. It also explains what have always seemed to me to be some very quirky directorial choices in this episode. For what it’s worth, I sometimes turn off the color on my TV and watch Star Trek “unMastered.” Not only does that replicate the way Star Trek was originally viewed by most of the country, it also eliminates its fairly specific mid-1960′s color scheme. As with any B&W movie, elimination of the color tends to impart more a dreamlike quality and focuses concentration on the performances. I’m not saying it’s for everyone – or for every episode, but it’s worth trying – particularly now that the episodes are very sharp in resolution.
Those who find the predicament funny have obviously never suffered from the appearance of a pimple just before a big date – or perhaps have simply never had a date, period.
Now THAT would be some fertile ground to develop. Can you imagine exploring in greater depth just what a young Jim T went through with the simultaneous threats of starvation and execution looming over him. Compounded by the fact that he may have had to watch members of his family die while he himself was spared? How did he escape? What were the details? And how could this not had a significant influence in his joining Starfleet?
This stuff was probably thrown out by the writers originally to provide a bit of drama for a TV show they had no idea we would be discussing in the several decades hence. Think it might be good stuff for the movie? I sure do.
Then ending of my previous post was perhaps unecessarily harsh. My apologies.
pimples aside, your comment about Trekkies never having a date brings up an interesting contradiction in logic. Many fans who grew up in the Middle East would enjoy the nourishment of sitting in the shade at lunch and eating their dates! How about them apples…..er……I mean dates?
Harry, what are we going to do with you? Scamp. Scurrilous. Scoundrel.
Guess I’ll just polish my instrument.
There was a time I would polish my instrument more often than I care to admit, but that’s another story……as I’d finish, I’d croak, “shiny like a new dime!!” Strange days, indeed!
Of course, I never said anything about Trekkies never having dates, so nuts to you!
saying “nuts to you” to a guy named Ballz would indicate that you’re a little testy! No, how about a sad sack? By the way, how’s it hangin’ these days?? Me? I’m feelin’ mighty low!
I agree with GDN (#53) that at the core of this story there is very serious plot about the (literal) unmasking of a war criminal. It is possible that the story has its genesis in the capture and execution of Adolph Eichmann in the early 1960′s. However, “The Conscience of the King” presents Kodos as a much more morally ambiguous character than a Nazi war criminal. In being forced to choose who dies so that others might live he is somewhat similar to Tyrone Power’s character in 1957′s “Seven Waves Away” (aka “Abandon Ship!”). Spock finds himself in a like situation in “The Galileo Seven.” If Spock had abandoned several crewmates to their deaths on Taurus II (as was his initial plan) and then the Enterprise had located their corpses moments later, would Spock be held just as guilty as Kodos?
(This also raises a humorous point about “The Galileo Seven.” Have you ever noticed that when Kirk is informed that only five survivors have been beamed aboard, he smiles broadly – never asking if McCoy and/or Spock and/or Scotty might be among the dead? He also doesn’t know that the two missing crewmember ARE dead, yet he warps away from the planet anyway.)
I’ve always been bothered by the science of this episode. How does Kodos mask his identity for 20 years? Wouldn’t a simple DNA or retina scan reveal his true identity in about 10 seconds? Or how about good old-fashioned fingerprints? It’s pretty lame, even for 1966. The scene where Spock and Kirk eyeball a couple of paper printouts of Kodos’ voiceprint pattern is particulary laughable. And a bigger question: why can only “eyewitnesses” nail Kodos? Riley would have been about 6 years old at the time of the mass executions–how good an eyewitness would he have made 20 years later?
I’ve always disliked this episode for the huge plot holes. The only reason to watch it is for Arnold Moss’s excellent performance.
> Wouldn’t a simple DNA or retina scan reveal his true identity in about
> 10 seconds?
Uh, there were no DNA tests or retina scans in use or envisioned back in 1966.
> Or how about good old-fashioned fingerprints?
Fingerprints can be altered.
> The scene where Spock and Kirk eyeball a couple of paper printouts of > Kodos’ voiceprint pattern is particulary laughable.
How so? Having a hardcopy is probably just as valid in the future as it is today.
>>Uh, there were no DNA tests or retina scans in use or envisioned back in 1966.
What, and transporters were? My point is, the writers needed to be a wee bit visonary in this episode, and they failed miserably.
To expand on what tronnei wrote, I remember watching this one as a pre-teen in the 70′s. Even back then, I found the whole “is he Kodos” hard to swallow – I figured that a governor would have loads of photos, videos, and voice recordings, just like we had of our own governor in NY. Why would eyewitnesses be needed, when a camera would do? They even had at least one old photo, as it was in the episode! If he was in seclusion, I could understand him being able to avoid the authorities – but he was not. This episode was written with an 1866 mentality, not 1966.
Yes, the story of Kodos is hard to swallow, but is it any harder to swallow than the notion of a Nazi Intelligence Officer one day becoming the Secretary General of the United Nation?
> My point is, the writers needed to be a wee bit visonary in this episode, > and they failed miserably.
You forget that the episode is a murder-mystery drama. You don’t need whiz-bang effects or far-flung futurism to drive the character development. In regards to character development, the writer was successful.
79. Robert Bernardo – September 21, 2007
“You forget that the episode is a murder-mystery drama. You don’t need whiz-bang effects or far-flung futurism to drive the character development. In regards to character development, the writer was successful. ”
On a darker note, the episode could have played like typical Berman Trek, where 40 minutes are spent on technobabble, predictable, stale reactions from the cast, and some finale which begged the question “Was this trip necessary?”
That’s what I gotta say about this episode’s new effects. The opening orbit shot was fantastic. They didn’t fix the city painting in the background of Tom’s home. The sky was still pink, but from the orbit shots, it looked rocky gray and green. Looks like they didn’t clean up the images on the viewer. Most of the shots were stock shots of the Enterprise in orbit and flying off. The observation deck accually has moving stars in the back. Best part of the episode. There was another new flyby. Ehh. I think I just about covered everything.
Also, I never noticed how hot Tom’s wife was. Especally at the begining of the episode in the pink outfit. OOOOH!
In case anyone else here is in the Sacramento area, TOS-R has been bumped due to MLB to Sunday (late Saturday night) at 4am.
Bumped for baseball here, guess I’ll have to catch the FX reel. Although I always got a kick out of the lounge lizard version of the Star Trek theme being played as party music where Kirk first meets Lenore. And certainly a treat to see O’Riley again, darn shame he wasn’t brought back after this episode.
Yes, the new fly-by angles were very cool. Though that first fly-by, the texture mapping of the hull looked a tad overdone to me. A bit dirty. But a very nice effort.
I can’t wait to see it in HD and see how it fares there.
#53-I agree with GNDN that “King” showed that TOS could handle sober, low-key psychodrama as well as almost any of its contemporaries and deserved more respect at the time for doing so; it was also a significant influence on the later series’ handling of real-world issues (Ronald D. Moore cites it as his favorite TOS episode).
At the same time, though, when you compare it even to the episodes already produced, it also lacks the wild fantasy quality that made TOS unique; while this episode could have made a dynamite “I Spy”, “I Spy” couldn’t have done “The Enemy Within” or “The Naked Time”. It’s not “Star Trek” doing only what “Star Trek” could, so I can understand the criticisms up to a point. Still, it’s certainly a highlight of the first season.
Still no fx video? I think there isn’t so much, but i’d like to see the new stuff.
It was an interesting episode that involved a lot of thought on the viewers part. The struggle to hide what one has done in the past and actually believe your own BS….! Even tough there are others that truly know you for what you really are is unique.. I think the only thing remastered will be the exterior ship scenes combined with Mullendore’s music will be great..there are several opportunities where this can be done and possibly the nearby earth colony..Mojave or Sygnia Minor!! Besides shakespearian quotes is fun to hear!!
the new E shot under the title credits seems MUCH more detailed, (over in my opinion) with all the texturing and doesn’t look like it’ll match with other eps. and other e shots. It almost looks like the movie e with the slightly different colored squares of hull plaiting
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