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		<title>By: Teiki and Tahia</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/24/salt-up-the-man-trap-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-2133703</link>
		<dc:creator>Teiki and Tahia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second I saw the saltsucker on this one and only Star Trek episode I&#039;ve ever seen, I got the chills and had nightmares for another five months.  (I am 10 years old) Then my brother says: yesterday I was scared to go to sleep because of visions of the salt vampire.  Every time when I&#039;m brushing my teeth at night, I always think it&#039;s behind me.  When I have a nightlight, it doesn&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second I saw the saltsucker on this one and only Star Trek episode I&#8217;ve ever seen, I got the chills and had nightmares for another five months.  (I am 10 years old) Then my brother says: yesterday I was scared to go to sleep because of visions of the salt vampire.  Every time when I&#8217;m brushing my teeth at night, I always think it&#8217;s behind me.  When I have a nightlight, it doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/24/salt-up-the-man-trap-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-231710</link>
		<dc:creator>Ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if it was the goal to get new fans interested into this franchise,I kinda think they failed at doing it.Because the lack of special FX seems like they are catering to the original fans who already like the show,and they don&#039;t even want the updated FX in the first place.
 
The new fans that this show is trying to get should do there research better,because the people they are trying to make into new fans are people who are use to seeing amazing sci-fi special FX.
 
Seems like this project took one step forward,but two steps back.Like on an episode you start to build enthusiasm when you see the new Enterprise in space shooting updated phasers(one step forward),but then you see the Gorn who looks like a guy in a cheap suit(two steps back) which makes you lose the enthusiasm that you were building for the show.
 
How does it change the story if you use a stuntman to play Kirk,and another stuntman in a better lizard costume(or a CGI Gorn)to have a better fight?It doesn&#039;t change the story at all,the only thing you do is build enthusiasm because people would be into the fight,instead of bored with it so they change the channel.
 
-$219 for this dvd set is a joke,your not gonna sell that much of them.For one the original fans didn&#039;t want the updated changes so they will pass on it,and the other people wanted everything updated which you didn&#039;t do,so they will pass on it too.
 

You need to update this set before it comes out,otherwise you have failed at what you were trying to do,which is create new fans.Cater to these potential fans,and update everything.
 
-The Enterprise bridge,update the monitors,because they look like paintings,it doesn&#039;t take you out of the show to see updated monitors,it takes you out of the show to see a painting in the display of the monitor.
 
-Make all the planets look different instead of each planet looking like earth.It really takes you out of the show when you see each planet looks like earth,because it feels like they aren&#039;t even exploring the universe at all.(Lets see two moons orbiting next to some of the planets,see different color planets,landscapes,etc.)
 
-Update all the mattes,create amazing landscape for the planets for when the crew goes down to check things out.
 
-CGI the bad costumes to the aliens like the Gorn,that guy in the rabbit suit,etc.You don&#039;t want people to turn the channel when these episodes come on,you think your gonna get people to pay $219 for these dvds with those terrible looking aliens?
 
-Update all of the hand held phaser beams.And make them all one color,except for the rifle phasers,or the alien phasers,then you can use a different color and effect.
 
-Use CGI to make some alien skins different colors,to add some alien type eyes to some,to make the plague people look better,etc.
 
-Use stuntmen to make the fights better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if it was the goal to get new fans interested into this franchise,I kinda think they failed at doing it.Because the lack of special FX seems like they are catering to the original fans who already like the show,and they don&#8217;t even want the updated FX in the first place.</p>
<p>The new fans that this show is trying to get should do there research better,because the people they are trying to make into new fans are people who are use to seeing amazing sci-fi special FX.</p>
<p>Seems like this project took one step forward,but two steps back.Like on an episode you start to build enthusiasm when you see the new Enterprise in space shooting updated phasers(one step forward),but then you see the Gorn who looks like a guy in a cheap suit(two steps back) which makes you lose the enthusiasm that you were building for the show.</p>
<p>How does it change the story if you use a stuntman to play Kirk,and another stuntman in a better lizard costume(or a CGI Gorn)to have a better fight?It doesn&#8217;t change the story at all,the only thing you do is build enthusiasm because people would be into the fight,instead of bored with it so they change the channel.</p>
<p>-$219 for this dvd set is a joke,your not gonna sell that much of them.For one the original fans didn&#8217;t want the updated changes so they will pass on it,and the other people wanted everything updated which you didn&#8217;t do,so they will pass on it too.</p>
<p>You need to update this set before it comes out,otherwise you have failed at what you were trying to do,which is create new fans.Cater to these potential fans,and update everything.</p>
<p>-The Enterprise bridge,update the monitors,because they look like paintings,it doesn&#8217;t take you out of the show to see updated monitors,it takes you out of the show to see a painting in the display of the monitor.</p>
<p>-Make all the planets look different instead of each planet looking like earth.It really takes you out of the show when you see each planet looks like earth,because it feels like they aren&#8217;t even exploring the universe at all.(Lets see two moons orbiting next to some of the planets,see different color planets,landscapes,etc.)</p>
<p>-Update all the mattes,create amazing landscape for the planets for when the crew goes down to check things out.</p>
<p>-CGI the bad costumes to the aliens like the Gorn,that guy in the rabbit suit,etc.You don&#8217;t want people to turn the channel when these episodes come on,you think your gonna get people to pay $219 for these dvds with those terrible looking aliens?</p>
<p>-Update all of the hand held phaser beams.And make them all one color,except for the rifle phasers,or the alien phasers,then you can use a different color and effect.</p>
<p>-Use CGI to make some alien skins different colors,to add some alien type eyes to some,to make the plague people look better,etc.</p>
<p>-Use stuntmen to make the fights better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Witchell</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/24/salt-up-the-man-trap-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-228800</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Witchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: #85 i had a feeling, as stated in my previous post above, that the morphing effect was just for the preview. like with usesof lightening and speeding up footage, the new effect was just done to fit with the trailer&#039;s construction. though disappointed that there was no beam-in effects as with Amok Time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #85 i had a feeling, as stated in my previous post above, that the morphing effect was just for the preview. like with usesof lightening and speeding up footage, the new effect was just done to fit with the trailer&#8217;s construction. though disappointed that there was no beam-in effects as with Amok Time</p>
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		<title>By: seangh</title>
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		<dc:creator>seangh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - just watched &quot;The Man Trap&quot; and morphing effect was a red herring - didn&#039;t happen. Turns out the morph effects were just in the show preview - thank goodness. The old fashioned dissolves remain.

The new matte painting was a still, with a pan, no beam in effects are meshing with existing footage.

All the Enterprise shots are good, the planet looks arid and dry from space, with some nice orbit angles - one from head on and one from above the Enterprise.

Beyond that, not much has changed on first glance. The horrible phaser shot at the end of the show when McCoy kills the creature &quot;God forgive me&quot; - the beam comes out of the phaser at an angle - that was not corrected - still looks bad.

If the first few shows of this new re-mastered season are any indication, it look slike all we get from here on out are replaced space shots.

I&#039;m particularly disappointed in this one because it was the first show to air - so it is a special episode - and you would think CBSD would give it a little extra attention - but that is not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; just watched &#8220;The Man Trap&#8221; and morphing effect was a red herring &#8211; didn&#8217;t happen. Turns out the morph effects were just in the show preview &#8211; thank goodness. The old fashioned dissolves remain.</p>
<p>The new matte painting was a still, with a pan, no beam in effects are meshing with existing footage.</p>
<p>All the Enterprise shots are good, the planet looks arid and dry from space, with some nice orbit angles &#8211; one from head on and one from above the Enterprise.</p>
<p>Beyond that, not much has changed on first glance. The horrible phaser shot at the end of the show when McCoy kills the creature &#8220;God forgive me&#8221; &#8211; the beam comes out of the phaser at an angle &#8211; that was not corrected &#8211; still looks bad.</p>
<p>If the first few shows of this new re-mastered season are any indication, it look slike all we get from here on out are replaced space shots.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly disappointed in this one because it was the first show to air &#8211; so it is a special episode &#8211; and you would think CBSD would give it a little extra attention &#8211; but that is not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: seangh</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/24/salt-up-the-man-trap-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-228045</link>
		<dc:creator>seangh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>83. roebeet

I hope so, but the copy on the promo trailer page specifically says it shows the &quot;morphing effects&quot; - - ???

THe mystery will be solved tonight I guess....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>83. roebeet</p>
<p>I hope so, but the copy on the promo trailer page specifically says it shows the &#8220;morphing effects&#8221; &#8211; - ???</p>
<p>THe mystery will be solved tonight I guess&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: roebeet</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/24/salt-up-the-man-trap-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-227655</link>
		<dc:creator>roebeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>76  &amp; 78.   I also think these morphs were added only for the promo - I don&#039;t think CBS-D would have created one that also morphs the surrounding room.   Makes absolutely no sense.  Given that there are other promo effects like McCoy&#039;s body growing in the bed, I think this was a way to jazz up the promo.  At least I assume McCoy&#039;s body growth is only a promo shot.

I guess we&#039;ll find out, soon enough....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>76  &amp; 78.   I also think these morphs were added only for the promo &#8211; I don&#8217;t think CBS-D would have created one that also morphs the surrounding room.   Makes absolutely no sense.  Given that there are other promo effects like McCoy&#8217;s body growing in the bed, I think this was a way to jazz up the promo.  At least I assume McCoy&#8217;s body growth is only a promo shot.</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;ll find out, soon enough&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21.  Yes, the young actor who played the first crewman killed by the Salt Vampire was in &quot;First Contact&quot; as the bartender in the seedy bar where Cochrane hang out on Earth.  He was in a lot of soaps and went public with his battle against MS.  Think his name was ? Zaslow.  Died of MS in the late-90s, iirc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21.  Yes, the young actor who played the first crewman killed by the Salt Vampire was in &#8220;First Contact&#8221; as the bartender in the seedy bar where Cochrane hang out on Earth.  He was in a lot of soaps and went public with his battle against MS.  Think his name was ? Zaslow.  Died of MS in the late-90s, iirc.</p>
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		<title>By: New Horizon</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/24/salt-up-the-man-trap-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-225454</link>
		<dc:creator>New Horizon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- I do want to ask: How did you feel about “Galileo Seven?” I thought it was pretty well done.

I thought it looked pretty good, in terms of general SFX.  For the most part, it was satisfactorily good &#039;modern&#039; CGI...but it still didn&#039;t seem complete to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- I do want to ask: How did you feel about “Galileo Seven?” I thought it was pretty well done.</p>
<p>I thought it looked pretty good, in terms of general SFX.  For the most part, it was satisfactorily good &#8216;modern&#8217; CGI&#8230;but it still didn&#8217;t seem complete to me.</p>
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		<title>By: OR Coast Trekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>OR Coast Trekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>77 Harry

Hah! I have to admit, I&#039;ve a soft sopt for puns.

New Horizon 

I think Iunderstand, you want effects that look like they were made in the 60&#039;s. You still want to maintain a 60&#039;s look. Basically, you beleive the models are more realistic than the CGI Enterprise. And, I have to agree with you for some of the first episodes. But, I also have to say that their CGI work has much improved. 

But I tell you, the pictures you provided were pretty awesome.

I do want to ask: How did you feel about &quot;Galileo Seven?&quot; I thought it was pretty well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>77 Harry</p>
<p>Hah! I have to admit, I&#8217;ve a soft sopt for puns.</p>
<p>New Horizon </p>
<p>I think Iunderstand, you want effects that look like they were made in the 60&#8217;s. You still want to maintain a 60&#8217;s look. Basically, you beleive the models are more realistic than the CGI Enterprise. And, I have to agree with you for some of the first episodes. But, I also have to say that their CGI work has much improved. </p>
<p>But I tell you, the pictures you provided were pretty awesome.</p>
<p>I do want to ask: How did you feel about &#8220;Galileo Seven?&#8221; I thought it was pretty well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Holo J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holo J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have enjoyed a lot of what CBS have done. I really enjoyed the little things they added in “Amok Time” and the new space shots in “Doomsday machine” and the “Galileo Seven”  but it’s the little things that get missed that probably would be time consuming to do but would make such a difference. 

For example the bridge display screen could be made to look more functional and tie more into the episodes. It would be a lot of work but it would really make a difference. Especially where the Screen are crumpled on some episodes most noticeable in Tomorrow is Yesterday” 
 
I mean that’s just one of many examples of things I would love to see tackled. Hand phasers, planet surfaces backdrops and maybe even some extended shots or added shots where it helps the story. Defiantly would of like to of seen the prop men hands removed from episodes like “Mirror Mirror” and I think someone pointed out there was another hand in the “Galileo Seven” that could do with being removed. There are lots of things that if done right would take time but I would gladly wait to see it done right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed a lot of what CBS have done. I really enjoyed the little things they added in “Amok Time” and the new space shots in “Doomsday machine” and the “Galileo Seven”  but it’s the little things that get missed that probably would be time consuming to do but would make such a difference. </p>
<p>For example the bridge display screen could be made to look more functional and tie more into the episodes. It would be a lot of work but it would really make a difference. Especially where the Screen are crumpled on some episodes most noticeable in Tomorrow is Yesterday” </p>
<p>I mean that’s just one of many examples of things I would love to see tackled. Hand phasers, planet surfaces backdrops and maybe even some extended shots or added shots where it helps the story. Defiantly would of like to of seen the prop men hands removed from episodes like “Mirror Mirror” and I think someone pointed out there was another hand in the “Galileo Seven” that could do with being removed. There are lots of things that if done right would take time but I would gladly wait to see it done right.</p>
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