Comments on: Lindelof Speaks Out In Support Of WGA http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/ the source for Star Trek news and information Fri, 25 May 2012 17:27:29 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Mark Zimmerman http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-280623 Mark Zimmerman Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:38:25 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-280623 I think the point that Lindelof is making is not that people will want to watch all of their television on ipods or 19" computer monitors. His point is that instead of a cablebox or whatever, people in the not too distant future will have their big screens hooked up to their routers and cablemodems. In other words, the video will be transmitted via packets over the internet. No more television show schedules. When it's released, you can watch the show whenever you want (with commercials, of course). The commercials will be inserted 'real time' into your video stream so that, no matter when you're watching, the commercials are up-to-date. And the writer's want their contract to appropriately compensate them, taking into consideration this on-going shift of delivery methods. Also, the difference between a 5" black-and-white CRT television set and an iPod are significant. The main difference being the way they are used. I don't remember seeing many people carrying around 5" black-and-white CRT television sets in their pockets. Not to mention that those television sets did a piss poor job of storing the shows that you want to watch rather than watching whatever happens to be on the airwaves. I think the point that Lindelof is making is not that people will want to watch all of their television on ipods or 19″ computer monitors. His point is that instead of a cablebox or whatever, people in the not too distant future will have their big screens hooked up to their routers and cablemodems. In other words, the video will be transmitted via packets over the internet.

No more television show schedules. When it’s released, you can watch the show whenever you want (with commercials, of course). The commercials will be inserted ‘real time’ into your video stream so that, no matter when you’re watching, the commercials are up-to-date.

And the writer’s want their contract to appropriately compensate them, taking into consideration this on-going shift of delivery methods.

Also, the difference between a 5″ black-and-white CRT television set and an iPod are significant. The main difference being the way they are used. I don’t remember seeing many people carrying around 5″ black-and-white CRT television sets in their pockets. Not to mention that those television sets did a piss poor job of storing the shows that you want to watch rather than watching whatever happens to be on the airwaves.

]]> By: CmdrR. http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-280600 CmdrR. Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:26:13 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-280600 This does seem to be an accounting issue. Sure, there'll be lots of fighting. But, the whole pile o disputed cash COULD go into escrow until the lawyers suck in enough of it to feel (temporarily) full. In the meantime, the productions could go on. OH DAMN, there I go thinking again. This does seem to be an accounting issue. Sure, there’ll be lots of fighting. But, the whole pile o disputed cash COULD go into escrow until the lawyers suck in enough of it to feel (temporarily) full. In the meantime, the productions could go on.

OH DAMN, there I go thinking again.

]]> By: David Sturm http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-280580 David Sturm Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:03:52 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-280580 Hmmm, a shame there isn't a Spellers' Guild of America Hmmm, a shame there isn’t a Spellers’ Guild of America

]]> By: Old Coot http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-280312 Old Coot Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:23:48 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-280312 I guess there are a lot of folks too young to remember when screens were small and we were so happy when they got bigger and bigger. I can't imagine watching shows on those tiny screens, either. I still remember my first tv. A black and white 5 inch Sony. And now I'm expected to go back in time to that existence?? Albeit, in color?? No thanks. I guess there are a lot of folks too young to remember when screens were small and we were so happy when they got bigger and bigger.

I can’t imagine watching shows on those tiny screens, either. I still remember my first tv. A black and white 5 inch Sony. And now I’m expected to go back in time to that existence?? Albeit, in color?? No thanks.

]]> By: Robert April http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-280295 Robert April Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:15:34 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-280295 What astounds me is that people are willing to watch shows or movies on 19 inch computer screens or on 3 or 4 inch ipods. As for me, I want a 100 inch plasma baby! No internet TV for me. What astounds me is that people are willing to watch shows or movies on 19 inch computer screens or on 3 or 4 inch ipods. As for me, I want a 100 inch plasma baby! No internet TV for me.

]]> By: TJ trek http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-280252 TJ trek Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:51:50 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-280252 My first post when I hear about the writers strike was competly like "lets bash the unions, I thinks there all crap..." etc. etc. But I think there is a point made here. The writers are like half of the movie/tv equation. I personally jude a show about 40% on the lines being said. Then I judge 40% on the actors saying the lines, and 20% on the rest o the production. A good actor can't make bad writing do anything on screen. So I see why writers might feel jipped not getting any revenue from Internet sales of shows My first post when I hear about the writers strike was competly like “lets bash the unions, I thinks there all crap…” etc. etc. But I think there is a point made here. The writers are like half of the movie/tv equation. I personally jude a show about 40% on the lines being said. Then I judge 40% on the actors saying the lines, and 20% on the rest o the production. A good actor can’t make bad writing do anything on screen. So I see why writers might feel jipped not getting any revenue from Internet sales of shows

]]> By: Cervantes ( waiting patiently under a Scottish sky... ) http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-279998 Cervantes ( waiting patiently under a Scottish sky... ) Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:09:56 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-279998 #10 Greg2600 Nah, a lot of folks will still be more interested in lousy repeats, and 'talent' shows... #12 Daniel Broadway I too, hope people will continue to want to see a lot of Movies on the shared experience of the bombastic sounding 'big screen', where they BELONG initially. As well as ticket prices, a big factor to encourage masses out of the comfort of their internet-dominated homes will continue to be well-crafted 'event' Movies that keep reminding them how good a big screen experience is in the first place, when they make the effort... Plus, emerging technologies that offer something additionally 'special' that can't be offered over a broadband connection anytime soon will help, such as potential 3D blockbusters by the likes of big name Directors such as James Cameron ( let's hope his 'Avatar' project is amazing ), and others that are interested in kickstarting this ever-improving avenue just now. Don't just wait for that DVD or Download folks... And I'd just like to say that I support the writers wholeheartedly in this sorry corporate mess. #10 Greg2600

Nah, a lot of folks will still be more interested in lousy repeats, and ‘talent’ shows…

#12 Daniel Broadway

I too, hope people will continue to want to see a lot of Movies on the shared experience of the bombastic sounding ‘big screen’, where they BELONG initially. As well as ticket prices, a big factor to encourage masses out of the comfort of their internet-dominated homes will continue to be well-crafted ‘event’ Movies that keep reminding them how good a big screen experience is in the first place, when they make the effort… Plus, emerging technologies that offer something additionally ’special’ that can’t be offered over a broadband connection anytime soon will help, such as potential 3D blockbusters by the likes of big name Directors such as James Cameron ( let’s hope his ‘Avatar’ project is amazing ), and others that are interested in kickstarting this ever-improving avenue just now.

Don’t just wait for that DVD or Download folks…

And I’d just like to say that I support the writers wholeheartedly in this sorry corporate mess.

]]> By: Kevin Rubio http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-279695 Kevin Rubio Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:53:26 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-279695 Actually, all WGA members are required to put in 20 hrs. a week towards the strike effort. During the 80s strike, then union leaders lacked the foresight to see where the video market was going and gave up large residuals from the sale of then video tapes. Remember this was at a time when there were only three networks, and at most 57 cable channels with roughly 26% market saturation. Re-runs were the sole domain of local markets and the big three, and no one could ever in there right mine think anyone would want to buy the complete run of Different Strokes on video tape. The members of the WGA do not wish to repeat that istake. The union leaders even took a significant increase new video sales "off the table" as a gesture of compromise. We would not budge on internet downloads, because that iis were all entertainment is eventually going - NOT EXCLUSIVELY, but it is another outlet. And if the studios are receiving advertising dollars from the rebroadcast and distribution of work generated by the creators of said work, it is only fair and just that those creators be compensated. Without the writers, there would be no show/movie. "It all begins on the page..." If you happen to be in LA, I will be marching with my fellow writers outside of 20th Century Fox 10020 W. Pico Blvd., Friday, starting at 10:00 a.m. Honk and show your support. Actually, all WGA members are required to put in 20 hrs. a week towards the strike effort.

During the 80s strike, then union leaders lacked the foresight to see where the video market was going and gave up large residuals from the sale of then video tapes. Remember this was at a time when there were only three networks, and at most 57 cable channels with roughly 26% market saturation. Re-runs were the sole domain of local markets and the big three, and no one could ever in there right mine think anyone would want to buy the complete run of Different Strokes on video tape.

The members of the WGA do not wish to repeat that istake. The union leaders even took a significant increase new video sales “off the table” as a gesture of compromise. We would not budge on internet downloads, because that iis were all entertainment is eventually going – NOT EXCLUSIVELY, but it is another outlet. And if the studios are receiving advertising dollars from the rebroadcast and distribution of work generated by the creators of said work, it is only fair and just that those creators be compensated.

Without the writers, there would be no show/movie. “It all begins on the page…”

If you happen to be in LA, I will be marching with my fellow writers outside of 20th Century Fox 10020 W. Pico Blvd., Friday, starting at 10:00 a.m.

Honk and show your support.

]]> By: Kevin http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-279491 Kevin Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:23:52 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-279491 This video may have not been taken today necessarily. This video may have not been taken today necessarily.

]]> By: steve adams http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/comment-page-1/#comment-279435 steve adams Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:44:43 +0000 http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/lindelof-speaks-out-in-support-of-wga/#comment-279435 It dosnt matter if everything is downloaded over the web, the fact is that some of it will be. ^ Studios have been waiting to cut the writers out of this aspect of media for so long and we all know it. ^ Networks and studios have all been sitting on these new sites that offer all the shows for a fixed price download but they don't dare impliment them til this strike is over. Its bad news for tv and film industry. The suits would deny us and the writers for what amounts to be very little in the big profit picture. ^ The first show to fall under the blade of strike was "Heroes Origins" this is mainly because that show was going to use the internet to promote and vote on possible Heroes to put into the ongoing Heroes show. Good indecation that there's a coldwar going on between producers and studios. It dosnt matter if everything is downloaded over the web, the fact is that some of it will be.
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Studios have been waiting to cut the writers out of this aspect of media for so long and we all know it.
^
Networks and studios have all been sitting on these new sites that offer all the shows for a fixed price download but they don’t dare impliment them til this strike is over.
Its bad news for tv and film industry. The suits would deny us and the writers for what amounts to be very little in the big profit picture.
^
The first show to fall under the blade of strike was “Heroes Origins” this is mainly because that show was going to use the internet to promote and vote on possible Heroes to put into the ongoing Heroes show.
Good indecation that there’s a coldwar going on between producers and studios.

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