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	<title>Comments on: Shatner Talks &#8216;Star Trek&#8217; Flap + Announces Free Vegas Trip Promotion</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk died in Star Trek Generations, therefore I suppose the only way that Bill Shatner can appear in the new 2008 film is if a scene is set sometime before his death as a flash back or flash forward depending on the context. This will require make up and/or CGI to give Bill Shatner a younger look. Whatever the case it must be all very credible. A &quot;Bobby Ewing&quot; inconsistency would insult the intelligence of many a film go-er so please don&#039;t include Bill just for the sake of it. This is a one off opportunity to make a great film. Don&#039;t blow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk died in Star Trek Generations, therefore I suppose the only way that Bill Shatner can appear in the new 2008 film is if a scene is set sometime before his death as a flash back or flash forward depending on the context. This will require make up and/or CGI to give Bill Shatner a younger look. Whatever the case it must be all very credible. A &#8220;Bobby Ewing&#8221; inconsistency would insult the intelligence of many a film go-er so please don&#8217;t include Bill just for the sake of it. This is a one off opportunity to make a great film. Don&#8217;t blow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Trekfanfromwayback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trekfanfromwayback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at this guy now. Does a man in that kind of shape still have a place on Star Trek? Do they have fat Star Fleet officers? He was great in the 60&#039;s, but he really looked out of place in that uniform after IV (which is where they should have stopped, not because of him, but because the storylines went downhill, I think). I am looking forward to the newest Star Trek film, but to tell you the truth, if I knew Shatner was in it, my enthusiasm would be much more reserved. plus, not only was he killed in Generations, but how old would he have to be to still even be around? He&#039;s not a Vulcan. Spock is around. He is still relevant. He&#039;s not a fat guy! &quot;Enterprise to Captain Kirk: You&#039;re dead, Jim.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this guy now. Does a man in that kind of shape still have a place on Star Trek? Do they have fat Star Fleet officers? He was great in the 60&#8217;s, but he really looked out of place in that uniform after IV (which is where they should have stopped, not because of him, but because the storylines went downhill, I think). I am looking forward to the newest Star Trek film, but to tell you the truth, if I knew Shatner was in it, my enthusiasm would be much more reserved. plus, not only was he killed in Generations, but how old would he have to be to still even be around? He&#8217;s not a Vulcan. Spock is around. He is still relevant. He&#8217;s not a fat guy! &#8220;Enterprise to Captain Kirk: You&#8217;re dead, Jim.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>79. Nicole - November 11, 2007

Well put Nicole.

But you lost me after &quot;William Shatner IS Captain James Tiberius Kirk.&quot;

BB(SA)K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>79. Nicole &#8211; November 11, 2007</p>
<p>Well put Nicole.</p>
<p>But you lost me after &#8220;William Shatner IS Captain James Tiberius Kirk.&#8221;</p>
<p>BB(SA)K</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79 Nicole

well put</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79 Nicole</p>
<p>well put</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Shatner IS Captain James Tiberius Kirk. There should be no dispute about that. However, Trek fans Shatner is throwing a little snit fit because he is not in the new movie. That is all well and good but do we not remember Star Trek Generations where Captain Kirk dies in the Nexis. There is no dispute that Kirk is dead in the future so how much sense would it make to resurrect him? It would make no sense...so J.J. Abrams is correct in not casting Shatner as &quot;future Kirk&quot; or &quot;elder Kirk&quot; or whatever. However, I greatly anticipate the coming of this film next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Shatner IS Captain James Tiberius Kirk. There should be no dispute about that. However, Trek fans Shatner is throwing a little snit fit because he is not in the new movie. That is all well and good but do we not remember Star Trek Generations where Captain Kirk dies in the Nexis. There is no dispute that Kirk is dead in the future so how much sense would it make to resurrect him? It would make no sense&#8230;so J.J. Abrams is correct in not casting Shatner as &#8220;future Kirk&#8221; or &#8220;elder Kirk&#8221; or whatever. However, I greatly anticipate the coming of this film next year.</p>
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		<title>By: VOODOO</title>
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		<dc:creator>VOODOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XAI

True enough.

It will be answered in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XAI</p>
<p>True enough.</p>
<p>It will be answered in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70. Camaro 09 and VOODOO - November 10, 2007

It&#039;s their business decision to not answer any of you, even if the world stopped turning over Shatner&#039;s apparent exclusion. And it didn&#039;t...
The question&#039;s been asked dozens of times now and Bad Robot isn&#039;t speaking. Surprise!

It&#039;s like playing cards, if the opposition asks what cards you have...do you tell?...even if it&#039;s cards you won&#039;t use?

Your question WILL get answered... it just takes patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>70. Camaro 09 and VOODOO &#8211; November 10, 2007</p>
<p>It&#8217;s their business decision to not answer any of you, even if the world stopped turning over Shatner&#8217;s apparent exclusion. And it didn&#8217;t&#8230;<br />
The question&#8217;s been asked dozens of times now and Bad Robot isn&#8217;t speaking. Surprise!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like playing cards, if the opposition asks what cards you have&#8230;do you tell?&#8230;even if it&#8217;s cards you won&#8217;t use?</p>
<p>Your question WILL get answered&#8230; it just takes patience.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>juggernaut

final warning for flaming (note changing names doesnt reset you)

comments to http://trekmovie.com/about/feedback</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>juggernaut</p>
<p>final warning for flaming (note changing names doesnt reset you)</p>
<p>comments to <a href="http://trekmovie.com/about/feedback" rel="nofollow">http://trekmovie.com/about/feedback</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cygnus-X1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cygnus-X1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60. juggernaut - 

-- Try opening your mind - like a real trekker would, and really see what he’s about. --

Shall I open my mind wide enough to make baseless presumptions about you, as you have done me? 

I used to watch Howard Stern&#039;s show regularly. He has done some good interviews. The best of his interviews, that I&#039;ve seen, was the one that he did with Paul McCartney, shortly after McCartney had gotten together with Heather Mills.

The reason that the McCartney interview was so good is that McCartney, being as famous, well-liked, wealthy and successful as he is, was in the position to demand that Stern behave in a less crass and base fashion than he normally does when left to his own devices.

Consequently, Stern asked the probing questions not asked in the mainstream, conventional media -- the kind of questions that you (and I) are so fond of -- without making such idiotic and crass comments as, &quot;Nobody cares about Leonard Nimoy.&quot; 

Also absent in Stern&#039;s interview with McCartney was Stern&#039;s trade-marked, race-to-the-bottom way of thinking. Perhaps you know what I&#039;m talking about -- it&#039;s that way of thinking that&#039;s often found amongst the dregs of society, a mentality unencumbered by the striving toward self-improvement or what&#039;s colloquially referred to as &quot;good taste.&quot;

It&#039;s a choice of seeking to bring out the worst in people for the purpose of spectacle, as opposed to bringing out the best in people for its own sake.

-- He is extremely intelligent, and doesn’t miss a thing. He is also informed. When he interviews someone, he is prepared. He knows the subject. --

I would edit out &quot;extremely,&quot; and appropriately rephrase the subsequent laudation to reflect the many levels being missed at any given time by Howard Stern. But, perhaps I am missing the finer points of throwing balogna at womens&#039; butts and comparing penis sizes (literally) with one&#039;s subordinates. 

That Stern is an intelligent man is what makes him and a show such a travesty.

Robin Quivers, however, is an outright buffoon. I could never stand her, when I used to watch the show. Her mindless parroting of Stern&#039;s comments, combined with her total lack of Stern&#039;s aforementioned intelligence and skill, are insufferable. 

But, this is quite a digression, isn&#039;t it?

The bottom line, for me, shows Howard Stern as a net negative rather than a net positive. His good attributes do not redeem his bad ones, as far as I&#039;m concerned. It&#039;s really quite a shame and a waste of talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60. juggernaut &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8211; Try opening your mind &#8211; like a real trekker would, and really see what he’s about. &#8211;</p>
<p>Shall I open my mind wide enough to make baseless presumptions about you, as you have done me? </p>
<p>I used to watch Howard Stern&#8217;s show regularly. He has done some good interviews. The best of his interviews, that I&#8217;ve seen, was the one that he did with Paul McCartney, shortly after McCartney had gotten together with Heather Mills.</p>
<p>The reason that the McCartney interview was so good is that McCartney, being as famous, well-liked, wealthy and successful as he is, was in the position to demand that Stern behave in a less crass and base fashion than he normally does when left to his own devices.</p>
<p>Consequently, Stern asked the probing questions not asked in the mainstream, conventional media &#8212; the kind of questions that you (and I) are so fond of &#8212; without making such idiotic and crass comments as, &#8220;Nobody cares about Leonard Nimoy.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also absent in Stern&#8217;s interview with McCartney was Stern&#8217;s trade-marked, race-to-the-bottom way of thinking. Perhaps you know what I&#8217;m talking about &#8212; it&#8217;s that way of thinking that&#8217;s often found amongst the dregs of society, a mentality unencumbered by the striving toward self-improvement or what&#8217;s colloquially referred to as &#8220;good taste.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a choice of seeking to bring out the worst in people for the purpose of spectacle, as opposed to bringing out the best in people for its own sake.</p>
<p>&#8211; He is extremely intelligent, and doesn’t miss a thing. He is also informed. When he interviews someone, he is prepared. He knows the subject. &#8211;</p>
<p>I would edit out &#8220;extremely,&#8221; and appropriately rephrase the subsequent laudation to reflect the many levels being missed at any given time by Howard Stern. But, perhaps I am missing the finer points of throwing balogna at womens&#8217; butts and comparing penis sizes (literally) with one&#8217;s subordinates. </p>
<p>That Stern is an intelligent man is what makes him and a show such a travesty.</p>
<p>Robin Quivers, however, is an outright buffoon. I could never stand her, when I used to watch the show. Her mindless parroting of Stern&#8217;s comments, combined with her total lack of Stern&#8217;s aforementioned intelligence and skill, are insufferable. </p>
<p>But, this is quite a digression, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>The bottom line, for me, shows Howard Stern as a net negative rather than a net positive. His good attributes do not redeem his bad ones, as far as I&#8217;m concerned. It&#8217;s really quite a shame and a waste of talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shatner and Nimoy singing together would be enough to raise Mugatu from the dead!!

Hmmmmm...................I smell the plotline for an independent film!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatner and Nimoy singing together would be enough to raise Mugatu from the dead!!</p>
<p>Hmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I smell the plotline for an independent film!!</p>
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