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Greenwood Talks Pike and Uniforms November 10, 2007

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: ST09 Cast , trackback

The new Captain Pike is now talking Star Trek. While out doing media related to his role in the Bob Dylan biopic I’m Not There, Bruce Greenwood answered some Trek questions. The veteran actor told MTV “I am the second incarnation” of Chris Pike. [actually counting Sean Kenney, Greenwood would be the third] Greenwood said that he is due on the set in three weeks and that he already had his costume fitting, saying “I think there will be a certain nod to the 60s.” Although he remains as tight lipped as everyone in relation to the project, he did confirm the we would not see him in the famous ‘Pike Chair,’ telling MTV “that’s been done.”

In a separate interview with IESB.net, Greenwood stated he wasn’t a Trek fan, but that he was going to “do the research on Pike and Hunter.” IESB asked about how Greenwood was older than the original Pike, Jeffrey Hunter, but the new film was going to be a prequel. Greenwood replied with a grin “Yes….So what?”


The real ’second incarnation’ of Pike, Sean Kenney. But no chair for Greenwood

More at MTV and IESB

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1. Lou - November 10, 2007

interesting. Let’s see how this guy does. :)

2. Lou - November 10, 2007

WOOT! I goted the number 1!!

3. Harlan - November 10, 2007

excited for some more pics from the set. bound to get some good leaks soon. i’m thrilled with the cast, though, so hazaah.

4. USS SANTA - November 10, 2007

Chris Pike was actually a ‘Fleet Captain”, wasn’t he? Like Garth of Izar?
I would love to see some referance to the Battle of Axanar.

5. mike - November 10, 2007

Just because he was, doesn’t mean he always was ;)

6. Captain Amazing!! - November 10, 2007

He isn’t necessarily older than the original Pike as seen in the FLASHBACK scenes originally from the first pilot The Cage and used in The Menagerie. Spock states in that particular episode that the footage they are watching was 13 years prior to that episode. I know about as much as the next guy as far as the new movie is concerned I suppose, but it would seem to me that the events in the new movie are approximately 6-8 years prior to the original series based on the fact that Kirk supposedly becomes a captain by the end of the film. Given that set of cicumstances, Bruce Greenwood’s age wouldn’t be too far off. Besides haven’t we seen people playing characters younger and older than themselves plenty of times before?

Of course this isn’t the first time someone at IESB either didn’t have their facts straight or hadn’t thought it through before actually asking some of the stupid questions I’ve seen them ask.

7. Sean4000 - November 10, 2007

Make up will fix a lot of things. I can’t wait to see the cast pics.

8. Plum - November 10, 2007

[quote]
IESB asked about how Greenwood was older than the original Pike, Jeffrey Hunter, but the new film was going to be a prequel. Greenwood replied with a grin “Yes….So what?”
[/quote]

lol! :D

Finally someone points out the recent Trekkie obsession with many an actors age, regarding this flick, is silly.

9. Anthony Pascale - November 10, 2007

it was not an unreasonable question for IESB to ask, especially if they are digging to get more details on the exact setting of the film. That being said I also think some fans get too worked up over the ages of the actors

10. New Horizon - November 10, 2007

Greenwood is an exceptionally gifted actor. This is great news.

11. Harry Ballz - November 10, 2007

I agree that Greenwood is a superb actor! Perfect for the role of Pike!

Who the hell cares how old he is?? Sheesh!!

12. Thomas Jensen - November 10, 2007

I’ve got no problem with him. He certainly is the right age to have been an original star trek fan. He must’ve missed that stuff in the 60’s.

I like him being the next Pike, I’m sure he will turn out just fine.

13. JBS (freezing my keester off in Washington) - November 10, 2007

Regarding age: Mark Lenard was only about 7 years older than Nimoy when hired to play his father, so they colored his hair gray and I think they played with his make-up a little. It came across as beleivable in my humble opinion.

14. USS SANTA - November 10, 2007

I wonder if the Talosions will be mentioned, or his love interest, Vina?

15. jonboc - November 10, 2007

“nod to the 60’s”

Me and my retro lovin’ self is liking this more and more!

He’s going to be a great Pike, no doubt.

16. Magic_Al - November 10, 2007

He looks about the age I’d expect Pike to be when he hands over the Enterprise to Kirk. Perhaps we’ll see the scene, referred to in The Menagerie, when Pike is promoted to Fleet Captain. In “The Menagerie” Kirk says that was the previous time he met Pike. (Then Commodore Mendez describes Pike as being about Kirk’s age, which is so obviously impossible Mendez must have been mistaken.)

17. Lord Garth Formerly of Izar - November 10, 2007

I was hoping to see the Pike chair

18. Craig - November 10, 2007

#6 That’s sounds right. At Star Trek: Memory Alpha it says Pike takes the 1701 out on her second 5 year mission.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/2257

19. Daoud - November 10, 2007

#16 Good point about Mendez’ mistake: unless we assume that was the imaginary Talosian-induced Mendez…

Greenwood gets a big thumbs up for an excellent response to IESB. “Yes… so what?” ranks right up there with “Get a life!” :)

20. Craig - November 10, 2007

Sorry I should have said takes the 1701 on her third five year mission. I wonder if we could see Pike and the 1701 saving Kirk and the Farragut after the Cloude Creature incident and that is where they meet?

21. JBS (freezing my keester off in Washington) - November 10, 2007

#20 Maybe it has something to do with the second part of your user name. Perhaps you should change it to get more respect.

22. Harry Ballz - November 10, 2007

#17 Lord Garth “I was hoping to see the Pike chair”

I was hoping to see the Pike chair
Sometimes life just doesn’t seem fair
We’ll have Rand with red panties
The crew’ll find her a man-tease
And still Pike will act with great flair!

23. pizza - November 10, 2007

Bruce Greenwood is no stranger to flying “space ships”. Here is a scene from the movie The Core. Of all the scenes from this movie, it is the one scene I remember the most.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvSSoascqVw

Picturing Hillary Swank with pointed ears sitting next to Bruce Greenwood in the Shuttle Endeavour “safely” crashing in L.A. is almost prophetic.

411 dtST

24. chrispikeswheelchair - November 10, 2007

A bit sad that my role as “the chair” will not be on screen, I just had the bulbs upgraded to LED’s & a new coat of black acrylic paint applied…….

Greenwoods a good choice I think. He was very good in 13 days & the Core, both were leadership roles and he came across as believable.

Cannot wait to see how/if they “retro” the Pike era Enterprise & uniforms perhaps. Maybe we’ll get a nod to the 60’s as the Big E is pulled into space dock for retrofit into Kirk’s era, that would be a nice touch.

25. Driver - November 10, 2007

Wondering if this will be a more “Pike/Spock” centric than “Kirk/Spock” centric film. 75% Pike, 25% Kirk?

26. Spock's Brain - November 10, 2007

#9 Anthony is always the voice of reason. I agree. Sometimes age, matters sometimes it don’t. :-) Seems at least one storyline in the film takes place on the Enterprise commanded by Pike, likely just prior to Kirk’s ascendency to command and of course it’s reboot of the franchise so the character’s age can change.

27. JBS (freezing my keester off in Washington) - November 10, 2007

Craig, I was not referring to you in my #21 post. When I wrote that, someone else named Orion W___ (the second part of the name was very offensive) had #20, and she/he was asking why she/he was getting edited - then that post was apparently deleted. haha.

Pizza, I could definitely see Hilary Swank as a Vulcanoid or other authority role. She’d be great. I wonder if they have finished all of the casting already and just aren’t telling us who the rest are?

Having a seasoned actor like Greenwood in the film gives me confidence in it. Good move.

28. Greg2600 - November 10, 2007

I’m still betting on the multi-story line approach ala Heroes or Lost.

29. max - November 10, 2007

“Yes….So what?”

Good answer! ;)

30. lym - November 10, 2007

Im really glad he said he was not a TREK fan…..I cannot stand when Trek actors claim they had always been a fan of the franchise when they obviously were not…and were just saying it for the fans.

31. CmdrR. - November 10, 2007

I’m glad there are differences becoming apparent. If it’s a good movie, it’s a good movie. I just wish it was THIS Christmas. Ah weel, there’s “Of Gods and Men” coming. And Ultimate Computer in the pipeline, too. Plus, Menagerie this week.
Oh, it’s great to be young and beautiful and a Trekkie.*

*Nichelle Nichols told me to my face it was “Trekker” but I think she’s in the minority on that one. I’d call myself Sally for her, but I think most people say Trekkie.

32. Andy Patterson - November 10, 2007

Everyone speculating and making assumptions on the age and time period of the movie. Since it’s looking back on old incidents with older Spock maybe it’ll cover many time periods which will align all the players and their ages perfectly in the Star Trek heavens.

33. Luke Montgomery - November 10, 2007

The tidbit I’m taking from this is that the costumes will have a “nod to the 60’s”

YES! I’m very excited to see hoe they pull this off from a production design, props and costume angle. The visuals are so much a part of the story and the vibe and merging the 60’s palate and look with something that feels fresh and modern from our new vantage point is a real creative challenge. Glad to hear this!

34. Harry Ballz - November 10, 2007

#32 “YES! I’m very excited to see hoe”

Yes, I feel exactly the same way! Every time I’m in New York, I look for every hoe I can find!!

35. Targus - November 10, 2007

I hope we get a glimpse of the costume soon, I want to know what to wear to the premier even.

36. Ralph - November 10, 2007

#23 I am glad for the clip. It does show his qualification of a Star Ship Captain. To bad we will not see it in STXI. Remarkable. I could almost see Pike there.
Anthony, thanks for making this place IPhone friendly. I just got mine and I love it. Jailbreak.

37. TJ Trek - November 10, 2007

Alright. Consider this. The pike chair happens after the oringal pilot. The one that didn’t air, and became the menagerie. This unaired pilot is being considered cannon to say that Pike commanded the enterprise before kirk. So Pike would not be in the chair at that point, and Kirk would not meet him the the chair, or he would not be so utterly surprised to see him in it latter on in the managerie (every fan who gives a crap about believable continuity would shreek at that). Besides, any B-story about having to be put in the chair would take too much screen time (in my opinon) in a story that even Kirk is rumored to just have a bit part.

38. StarTrekRockerGirl - November 10, 2007

I liked him in that show called “Nowhere Man” It was a great show, but I think it got cancelled before they resolved anything, and left us devoted fans hanging. I think he’ll do great!

“So what?” indeed! :)

39. Brian - November 10, 2007

#33 I believe Enterprise’s two parter “In a Mirror Darkly” gives us the best hint of what the movie may look like. I thought I would be destracted by the 60’s color palate to the more modern looking NX-01 Enterprise color palate. But I was not destracted at all. I think the main key was the lighting of the sets in that episode. They were the same bright colors from the sixties but shoot and lighted in a way that made something so simply looking now. More advanced looking and streamlined. I personaly loved how many of the first season episodes where they had more dramatic lighting and that purple gel lighting off in the background. And also that almost cloudy dream like image in those early episodes.

40. TJ Trek - November 10, 2007

Also (sorry to post again so soon), I just thought of this If the story was Pike and Spock centric, and not Kirk and Spock centric, then would that not meen that McCoy would not even be on the ship, so consequently not in the movie (or a bit part) I think giving the role of McCoy to Simon Peg means that it’s going to be a larger part then this scenario allows for. So what do you guys think about that?

41. Harry Ballz - November 10, 2007

Err, not to rain on your parade, but the part of McCoy didn’t go to Simon Pegg……………I hope that doesn’t offend all your sensibilities!!

42. focuspuller - November 10, 2007

ummmm………….. Simon peg is not playing McCoy

43. Sean4000 - November 10, 2007

Urban is McCoy. Pegg is Scotty.

44. Smike van Dyke - November 10, 2007

#40 It can be Spock and Pike centric and still include Scotty (SIMON PEGG), McCoy (KARL URBAN) and all the other characters since it is set in an alternate reality and only Nimoy-Spock is grounded in the old timeline…

That said #39 is absolutely right. Lighting is everything and the old sets and unifiorms can be turned into highly modern ones just by a few minor modifications. Just look at Superman’s suite from Returns. It’s still blue, red and yellow but it doesn’t look outdated at all…

45. Urban - November 11, 2007

This movie is so going to bomb. And I will be here to enjoy its doom.

46. odo19 - November 11, 2007

If you hate this movie so much, just what the hell are you doing here? Trolling perhaps……

47. Paul Martin - November 11, 2007

I’m pretty dammed excited, more than I ever was for the likes of Nemesis or Insurrection…

48. steve623 - November 11, 2007

Hopefully the new movie won’t have any Cole Porter or Rodgers & Hammerstein.

49. Jeffrey S. Nelson - November 11, 2007

So if age is not a factor…why not Gary Sinese as McCoy?? Much better casting than the other guy.

50. Vulcan Soul - November 11, 2007

^^Bcos Abrams likes favoritism as much as any other Hollywood director ;)

51. CCBeck - November 11, 2007

45
and we in turn will enjoy seeing it possibly succeed and will not pass judgement before it’s release.

52. Paul Martin - November 11, 2007

45 / 51

I was very worried when I first read about the plans for this film, but after reading interviews and getting Mr Nimoy himself saying this will rock (well, he almost said that) I’m more than confident. The main problem I have, its nowhere near to being released!!!

53. Al - November 11, 2007

Because Sinise is a B+ list actor and most of the cast are B.

54. Barney - November 11, 2007

# 33 - I think you are right Luke, I take it from Bruce Greenwood’s comments that we’re not going to see TOS uniforms/costumes that were also in Trials And Tribbleations and In A Mirror Darkly. The uniforms will be different but with with a nod to what the crew wore in TOS, such as the badges and colours.

55. Craig - November 11, 2007

#27 No problem. I saw that person before. I’m glad he got deleted.

56. Paul Martin - November 11, 2007

Maybe rubbery skin tight with big plastic badges like superman returns? (mwahaha)

57. T'POW! - November 11, 2007

Hey, If Greenwood’s Pike is not gonna be in the famous ‘Pike Chair’, and he’s a lot older than when Jeffrey Hunter/Sean Kenney’s Pike was supposed to be confined to that chair, perhaps somewhere in the movie, ( perhaps at the end, or the beginning ), we will glimpse a Spock-altered timeline where he saved Pike from his Delta radiation fate, and thus we see an older, but undisfigured Captain Pike in Bruce Greenwood?

Pure speculation I know, but I can help my mind racing with all the possibilities…really looking forward to this movie!!

58. Gary Lee - November 11, 2007

How about the past is changed and Kirk never becomes captain of the Enterprise. So it’s Pike, Spock and old Spock travel back in time to the rescue of young Kirk that some how the Romulans have changed his life or killed him.

59. COMPASSIONATE GOD - November 11, 2007

“34. Harry Ballz - November 10, 2007
#32 “YES! I’m very excited to see hoe”

Yes, I feel exactly the same way! Every time I’m in New York, I look for every hoe I can find!! ”

Man, the water I was drinking nearly sprayed out while reading that! :)

60. COMPASSIONATE GOD - November 11, 2007

Re: criticisms of others’ age concens:

Age and continuty matter. Details only help the bigger picture, so try not to get so excited about anything that the feeling pushes one into ignoring things that are important–and that you will notice on screen.

61. gord - November 11, 2007

He seems to know his stuff, which is good. I think he’ll be a fine Pike.

62. Aaron R. (Sisko with a tight rubbery uniform with a big S on the front! Wait... what do you mean its been done before?) - November 11, 2007

I think the age is fine… The Pike era cannon really is only very loosely established to begin with and who is to say that Pike didn’t command the E for 10 more years before getting ‘the chair’… Not the electric chair… well maybe… was that thing electric??? I don’t know. But you know what I mean. The 10 year gap between the original pilot and Kirk taking command would also be a good reason for the uniforms changing and the sets changing from all grey scale to the more colorful flamboyant things we see in TOS. As for tight rubbery supermanish outfits… He whatever as long as we get some mini-skirt action too!!!!!!!

Aaron R.

63. diabolk - November 11, 2007

Costumes, actor ages, ship modifications… minors such as these may be important to fans who major on them, but what really matters in the theater next year is… the heart of this movie.

Will we well up when we see young Spock making his way among humanity? Will a shiver go up our spine when we glimpse young Kirk becoming the legend? Will the chills electrify our scalps when the Big E is seen in all it’s big-screen glory for the first time?

Will the years of accumulated affection for these characters be used to the best advantage, and the story written in a moving way to harness these feelings, or will it be just another sci-fi actioner with the same names as the old show?

This may be the last chance for a Star Trek movie that not only captures the magic of the original at it’s best, but to take it further where it has never been.

Let’s hope that Abram’s is up to this, and we, as well as the average person who has watched TOS casually over the years, come out with our hearts swelled with the joy at seeing it come to life.

64. Xai - November 11, 2007

49. Jeffrey S. Nelson - November 11, 2007
“So if age is not a factor…why not Gary Sinese as McCoy?? Much better casting than the other guy.”

old news, unavailable, didn’t want to….and the hiring is already done

65. Harry Ballz - November 11, 2007

Diabolk, nicely said!

I especially like when you say, “will the chills electrify our scalps when the Big E is seen in all it’s big-screen glory for the first time?”

Hell, if I feel anything like THAT, I’ll go back to the theatre repeatedly, buy the movie when it comes out on HD-DVD, watch it over and over on my new 60 inch Pioneer Elite plasma and NEVER leave home again!!

Bwahahahaha……………………………

66. Lord Garth Formerly of Izar - November 11, 2007

Herr Ballz… You got that Pioneer Elite 60″??? How do you like it?? I was going to buy that but opted for the Mitsubishi Diamond 65″ DLP instead. It was a tough choice for me but theMitsu was roughly half the price and other than slightly crisper blacks on the Pioneer I couldn’t tell the difference. If you haven’t yet get the new HD or Blu-ray 2001 A Space Odyssey , your tv will never look so good!!! It might be the single most visually stunning HD film I have ever seen!!

67. Dr. Image - November 11, 2007

Whatever happens, I predict that not until the END of this movie, will we see Kirk and the whole principal cast on the bridge of the E, red accents and all, wearing the classic black-collar uniforms.
Up to that point, we’ll see some type of post-Archer era hybrid uniforms, which we seem to have evidence of already.
At least that’s what I’m hoping, anyhow- that they make it all fit.

68. Shatners Hairpiece - November 11, 2007

If the story has time travel elements involving the Romulans then the history and events may change everything? Greenwood will do fantastic!

I’m a Trek fan and even I get tired of this nitpicking crap!

Shat

69. T'POW! - November 11, 2007

I don’t like the notion that the new Star Trek should be viewed to exist in some sort of ‘B’ Timeline, as opposed to ST:TOS’s ‘A’ Timeline. That doesn’t make any aesthetic changes any more believable to me.

A fresh look ( costumes/space design/etc. ) will not invalidate the old series as long as the characters and the integrity of the universe we are all familiar with stays intact.

View it like this: a movie/T.V. Show based on Robin Hood will look different and have some different sensibilities if filmed in the ’30s/’50s/’80s, etc. but they will all still be essentially be telling the same legendary tales of a particular period of ( fictional ) history.

So, with the new Star Trek, we will be viewing the stories of the characters we all know and love but now through the lens of the 21st century, as opposed to the lens of the ’60s.

The ’60s ( and subsequent ) Star Trek will remain just as much canonical as the any new Star Trek ( unless severe changes/contradictions are made ), only the technology to tell stories of that ‘fictional future’ has advanced in the past 40 years, hence the changes in the ‘look’…am I making sense?

70. David - November 11, 2007

Design & Story

Design ….. & …. Story

Two different things. First, the story. We’ve heard ‘the’ alternate time line story that ’sorta’ resets the series. So an older Captain Pike seems to be quite right. As Kirk is mysteriously absent in the time line, it’s quite possible that Pike is not in the wrong place at the wrong time, and misses out on the chair with the lights.

The Design will likely pay homage to the past, but with a huge breath of fresh air to make it more realistic. The whole concept of Star Trek’s design, is that it’s what the future may be like. So yeah, transporters & hypo-sprays will still be there - but everything else IMO is open for change.

David

71. jonboc - November 11, 2007

#70 “The whole concept of Star Trek’s design, is that it’s what the future may be like. So yeah, transporters & hypo-sprays will still be there - but everything else IMO is open for change.”

Exactly, And that was the case in 1966 when Matt Jefferies used a very practical approach by designing futuristic starships, devices and controls that were both functional and looked good. They didn’t HAVE to be functional. They didn’t HAVE to make sense. But they did. No one ever explains how incerdibly handy and functional Spock’s 3 wheeled-one handed viewer control works on the science station. He simply uses it. But if you look at it closely, you see an ingenious one handed control capable of many different functions by simply turning the wheel and or the various size knobs attached.

Trek’s “vision” of the future was already established in 1966, there’s no reason to greatly revise it. Give it a fresh coat of paint and use the construction techniques of today. Make it biggger and better. But the design is part of the signature “look” of the TOS universe, don’t turn it into Star Wars just because you can.

72. TrekNerd - November 11, 2007

#48: “Hopefully the new movie won’t have any Cole Porter or Rodgers & Hammerstein.”

But definitely “Row, Row, Row Your Boat.”

73. Gary Lee - November 11, 2007

With the costumes a nod to the 60’s I hope it’s Pike and his crew’s uniforms from “The Cage” they look more Star Fleet especially the women in pants (Number One) not mini-skirts. Not a nod to Kirk and the crew’s 60’s uniforms they look more like costumes than uniforms. But anything can be improved to look better I guess if it’s just a nod.

74. NCC-73515 - November 11, 2007

re 23: this scene from the core is also the only one i remember… and the look on his face when he is concentrated… just like pike!
oh, and is that alfre woodard (lily sloane from st8) in the mission control center?

if there’s one thing i would like
to see in trek then it is pike
cause with his best friend spock
the enterprise will rock!

75. Charley W - November 11, 2007

#31-

Actually, there’s 3 terms used by the fans: ‘Trekkie’, ‘Trekker’, and ‘Trekist’. I used to be MUCH more involved in Trek fandon than I am currently (Anime will do that to you!) and another fan that I dated back then put the differences this way:

1) A ‘Trekkie’ are the ones that eat, drink and fart Star Trek. The guy that legally changed his name to ‘James T Kirk’, is a good example. ‘Trekkie’ is probably the oldest term, and the one that the media picked up on, so it’s the only one that most of the public is familiar with, especially with the recent ‘Trekkies’ movies.

2) A ‘Trekker’ goes to the conventions, dresses up, etc, but has a normal life outside of the cons. 90% or so of the fans fit here.

3) A ‘Trekist’ goes to the cons, but doesn’t dress up (maybe Spock ears). Instead, they sit around in the Hospitality Suite discussing the economical ramifications of warp-drive technology or why Spock smiled in “The Managerie’.

She was a major fan (was involved in setting up some early cons in the MidWest and producing fanzines), so I’m sure she knew what she was talking about. Of course, this was 20 or so years ago, so the terms may have evolved, especially due to the Internet.

76. Shatners Hairpiece - November 11, 2007

“trekist”? You made that up?

Uhh, can’t I just be a fan and keep the nerd level down alittle?

Shat

77. Rick - November 11, 2007

It will be glorious or fall flat on it’s face. Hope it all works…It is ironic that many of you can’t wait to see the BIG E in all it’s glory for the first time. You do mean the TOS look? Of course if they really redesign things too much you won’t have it. Funny as that is. Do we know what 23rd designs will be like anyhow? They could be into the look of the 1930’s for all I know. I do really like some of THE CAGE and WNMHGB look and color scheme. It seems to really have grown on me through the years. Anyway I will at least see some retro TREK along with some BSGR on the big screen in the next few days. What a Scifi TV week on the big screen! Who would of thought the 21st century would be so scifi cool! ;)

Anyway it sounds like this film is moving in somewhat the right direction. I won’t have an opinion till I walk out of the showing next Dec. Beam me up!

78. Harry Ballz - November 11, 2007

#66 Lord Garth “Pioneer Elite 60″…How do you like it??”

I also did a lot of research and finally bought this beauty about a month ago. I don’t know much about electronics and got some expert to set me up with HD-DVD Player, Monster cables, Energy speakers, 7.1 surroundsound…..the whole shebang! I love the picture quality when you watch an HD movie like The Mummy….I’m waiting patiently for more flicks to come out on HD as I want to build my movie library with that format. You were smart to buy an equal quality T.V. at a better price….me, I tend to spend money like a drunken sailor!

I love my home entertainment set-up so much I will be very selective on going to the theatre in the future, the exception, of course, being on Christmas Day, 2008! Thanks for the heads-up about 2001 A Space Odyssey! I didn’t even know it was out, but will be sure to get it!

79. NCC-73515 - November 11, 2007

re 75: fan types
i thought “trekkies” love TOS and TNG, while “trekkers” don’t like TOS that much and rather focus on DS9 and VOY.
many fans who like TOS/TNG don’t like DS9/VOY and vice versa.
(i myself like all of them except the first seasons of ENT)

80. RetroWarbird - November 11, 2007

Just because we don’t see the “chair” doesn’t mean we won’t see his accident …

However, thinking about it, if Kirk had only met Pike when the keys to the Enterprise were handed over, it does seem to imply that Pike’s training mission accident happened shortly afterward, when he had been promoted to Fleet Captain and would be more likely to be a special advisor on a cadet training mission, as opposed to out there cowboying around the galaxy.

I suppose they could save the accident for a sequel, to launch us into the sequel’s plot by automatically and instantly maiming one of the primary characters from Trek 11, giving us an instant emotional response …

That sequel better have Captain Garth too …

81. Lord Garth Formerly of Izar - November 11, 2007

Ballzamania - Nice setup!!!

Besides 2001 here are a few HD DVD’s out now that will visually give your Pioneer a pixel workout!!

1. Matrix Trilogy - Can’t take your eyes of the imagery

2. Transformers - Gotta help poor Orci out with royalties!! A lot of fun

3. Excalibur - Awesome remastered print

4. 300 - All that and a slice of cheese

5. Planet Earth Box set

82. Harry Ballz - November 11, 2007

Lord Garth, thanks for the suggested titles…..here’s one that I’m sure you know about…..FORBIDDEN PLANET in HD-DVD!!

That’s the very first movie I watched on the new T.V. and I nearly wet my pants, I enjoyed it so much! It’s wild to watch an old classic like that with the clarity and detail of today’s technology! Boy, Roddenberry sure owes a lot to that movie for how he formulated Trek!

Needless to say when TOS is released later this month in Remastered HD, I’ll be the first in line!

83. Lord Garth Formerly of Izar - November 11, 2007

Didn’t know forbidden planet was released!! Thanks I love Leslie Nielson!!

Blade Runner comes out real soon as well

84. Len Krieger - November 11, 2007

Has anybody here done the math on this guy, Greenwood? He is 51 years old and back in 1965 Jeffrey Hunter was 39 when he portrayed Pike.
Why are they casting a guy so old to play Pike???

85. Gary Lee - November 11, 2007

84#”The Cage” was done in1965, but in 1966 “The Menagerie” Spock states that the footage (The Cage) is 13 years ago when Pike was captain of the Enterprise. If Jeffrey Hunter was 39 in “The Cage” then in “The Menagerie” he would be 52 in the chair with lights. 39+13=52 The movie is closer to the end of Captain Pike as captain of the Enterprise and Kirk becoming captain, so Pike would be closer to 52 than 39. Greenwood at 51 isn’t that bad.

86. Gary Lee - November 11, 2007

84# The Cage back in 1965 with Jeffrey Hunter was 39. But in 1966 in The Menagerie Spock states the footage (The Cage) of Captain Pike on the Enterprise was 13 years ago . So in The Menagerie Captain Pike in the chair with the flashing lights he would be 52. The new movie is closer to the end of Captain Pike as captain of the Enterprise and Kirk becoming captain. I guess Pike would be 49 or 50 in the movie. Greenwood at 51 isn’t that old.

87. Dr. Image - November 11, 2007

Greenwood’s age is fine- but waitaminute, will Blade Runner be coming out in HD?? Now THAT will be a REAL reason to get a player- Toshiba or whatever!
Back to style- DS9’s T&T ep made it WORK and STAYED true to the aesthetics. ENT screwed with the aesthetics in the wrong direction and blew the retro thing totally. THAT’S what I’m afraid of here- JJ straying so far as to becoming distracting, sort of the way TMP did back then…

88. steve adams - November 11, 2007

I reccomend everyone wanting to see retro 60’s uniforms, watch season 4 Star Trek Enterprise episodes “in a mirror darkly parts 1 and 2″.

89. raulpetersen - November 12, 2007

or any episode of new voyages, hey that other guy played pike too in new voyages and he was class!!!

90. Gary Lee - November 12, 2007

Going retro the 60’s is too old TV and it wouldn’t look right on the big screen. Look at the Borg in Next Generation on TV and compare it to the Borg on the big screen in First Contact. You would have to improve on it for the big screen. STAR TREK is always changing it’s the future, it was 1966 then, now it’s 2007 we should be able to see more detail of the uniforms ,the bridge, the Enterprise etc..

91. Michael Foote - November 12, 2007

The story may be great, but if they change the Uniforms or the Enterprise too much, it will distract from the movie. Imagine if the movie is set during the first season and the uniforms are all green jumpsuits. I can just imagine people leaning over to their neighbors and say “can you believe they have Scotty in Green not red?” and the, “what did I miss, oh the Enterprise, it looks like a Borg ship.” Change is good, but too much change and it just won’t work right, and yes bring on the Miniskirts!!!

92. MrRegular - November 12, 2007

Bruce Greenwood is an excellent actor-catch him as JFK in 13 Days, if you can.
See for yourself how close we came in 1962 to “Planet of the Apes”.
Riveting movie! Greenwood will do well in the new Trek film.

93. RDL - November 12, 2007

Some of you may remember the ABC Miniseries, “Rich Man Poor Man.”
It was filmed in 1975.

Ed Asner, played the father…he was 46 at the time.
His younger son, Tom, was played by Nick Nolte, who was 34 at the time.
His older son, Rudy was played by Peter Strauss who was 28 at the time.

So the father was only 12 years older than the actor playing his younger son, and the actor playing the youngest son was actually six years older than the actor playing his older brother.

The Nolte and Strauss roles required them to “age” from high school days through their mid-to-late 30s.

They pulled it off just fine.

94. Paul B. - November 12, 2007

You know, the only bit of uniform that we see (or might see, IF it’s the uniform) is a bit of green and a bit of blue peeking above the collar of the overcoats in the “spy” photos from the Trek set.

But the green looks a bit muted, and the blue isn’t too bright…and at least a few cast and/or crew members have teased about nods to the 60s uniforms.

So…I think Abrams has very similar uniform styles, but muted and more palatable by non-1960s standards…and the “old” Spock (Nimoy) comments about the colors “seeming so much brighter in my memory.”

hehe… I could deal with that, kind of…

95. Cervantes - November 13, 2007

#94 Paul B.

Will some be RED, or now be BURGUNDY, I wonder?…

I’d like this Movie to have a ‘bright, futuristic’ look personally… ;)

96. section9 - November 13, 2007

Remember, Redshirts exist to get killed.

Cannon fodder for the Federation!


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