Breaking News: Quinto seen in Spock Makeup! November 12, 2007
by Matt Wright , Filed under: ST09 Cast, Star Trek (2009 film) , trackbackThose sneaky devils at JFX have a real scoop this time. They have managed to spy Zachary Quinto in full Spock makeup!
For more check out JFX Online and even more at IESB
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I’m first.
He looks great.
I’m 2nd
Don’t like it at all.
If any cast member can make it work, he can!
(1st!!!!!)
Yep, spectacular. I’m not sure I’m sold on some of the other casting, but Quinto looks terrific here. There’s no question: This is Spock.
Yeah Anthony!:) You got the story up online! I think he looks good- but Leonard looked better. Can’t wait until Leonard is on set in December. Now that is ehat I want to see!:)
Thanks Anthony and JFX. Keep em comin….
Nice work JJ!
Kigs (who is all smiles and can’t wait for Leonard Nimoy to come on set!:) )
ears to yaa ,,, Zachary Quinto
=)
Very nice!!!!! I think this just made my day! And for tomorrow, I can get my casting call :)
I wonder what Stanky will say? I think I know.
Wow, those shots of Quinto are almost as hot as Kristen Bell’s getups on “Heroes” tonight!
But seriously, I’m stoked by those pics.
He definitely looks like Spock. I’m worried about his voice, though. Spock’s voice is almost more important than his ears. I’ve never watched Heroes, but from the few interviews I’ve seen with Quinto, he doesn’t have Nimoy’s pipes.
That’s where he needs to nail it.
Perhaps this was just a poor photo or maybe the sun was in his eyes or should I say ears but this picture didn’t compliment him or the character he’s portraying. Lets hope the next one is much better!
It looks like Quinto was in a church on the video while they were filming. Maybe it was a Vulcan ceremony.
ears, haircut, eyebrows, check. Yep, its all there. Looks good. Seeing it for the first time wasn’t the religious experience I expected it would be, but its still cool. Its the costumes I can’t wait to see.
#10
You’ll be amazed on how much some actors can change their voices. Hopefully Quinto is one of these actors!
#13, according to the website the photo links to, it takes place in a court; spock’s on trial!!
Cool.
Puts any worries about the sideburns to rest.
All is well.
I think he has the overall VULCAN look… but not SPOCK-y enough for my taste… and what the hell kind of costume is that?
#12) I heard that they had the inside of the church set up to look like a council chambers, so, who knows…
P.S. I still don’t like the way this movie has been going from the beginning… I keep up to date on the rumors, but I’m really not looking that forward to seeing this Abram-ized abomination of Star Trek… especially after hearing the “leaked” storyline…
#5
Leonard only looked “better” because he was the first…there is nothing to compare him to … It is not as though there is a seperate template for Spock that Leonard lives up to…he he is the template.. no offense..but the logic is faulty :)
#10
Good point on the voice…though I have a suspicion he will pull it off…. just a ..dare I say…”feeling”
17
“..Spocky enough”? do explain..
I agree, but I only maintain that Leonard looked hotter in the ears and without them too. But Zach is hott as well. I would ask him out in a second. :)
Yep. That is Spock. If you squint you can see Leonard Nimoy a little bit.
Now lets see Pine as Kirk and Urban as McCoy.
JFX running superslow…everybodies onto it! The few photo’s I got to see look good
He looks perfect. End of story.
Yeah and then the 3 together. that would be a good pic.
Kigs
I see…I agree…to the point that my hetero ways allow…within THAT framework…there is something about Nimoy I have always enjoyed OUTSIDE of trek …he is a fine underrated actor and artist in his own right. he actually resembles some of my uncles and even grandfather to a degree..odd…regarding Zach…i have no opinion on his “hot” factor…but I hope to see an interesting nuanced performance turned in that is a springboard for other projects outside of Heroes
18 – If you are that negative about the movie, don’t bother posting on here . Yes you are entitled to your opinion – but come on, try to have some faith.
I think most people would agree having JJ Abrams helm the new Trek movie instead of Rick Berman and company was the best decision
Paramount made.
Our pointy-eared Prophet is returned to us this day, let us rejoice and feast on fruit bats and orangotans and anchovies and breakfast cereals!
Wow, very cool! The outfit he’s in looks very Romulan to me…
It is uncanny the resemblence…I mean..Nimoy has a distinct look, not at all a generic everyman or prettyboy look..something very unique…and to find someone who can so closely resemble him in general (look at the Con photos) as well as in makeup and apparently capture the spirit of the character he originated and portrayed (at least in the film makers eyes) is quite something….
Uhhhhh….looks like Spock to me!
Nice scoop. At the same time, I want some surprises on Dec. 25, 2008.
Re: Photos of Spock
Comment at the site sugests a Vulcan trial, but it could easily be an SF Academy extrance interview or the Vulcan driver’s licence verbal exam.
Perhaps Vulcan formal wear? Remember, the Romulans were originally Vulcan conservatives, and many Terran fundalmentalist group retain the clothing at the time they were founded.
The Quinto as Spock photos are great. Interesting though… the wardrobe he is wearing looks vERY Romulan with teh boots and the cut of the tunic. Also, the set he is on looks very Romulan as well… almost deco like they had in Next Gen. Anyone else have an impression like this?
Again, great to see the new Spock. He REALLY LOOKS THE PART
First – let’s not foget that he is an actor portraying a character, not a comedian doing an impression of Nimoy’s spock. Although it’s a bit complicated because Nimoy is in the movie too, playing an older Spock – so a very difficult acting challenge for Quinto.
Secondly, it’s amazing what a bowl cut and pointed ears will do – he looks Vulcan enough, but his face lacks that sculpted, narrow look that Nimoy made popular, but I think it’s working over all.
Wow! he does look a lot like Nimoy did in TOS! But it does feel a bit weird knowing that it isn’t Nimoy but someone who looks like him. A new age of Trek has truly begun!
That photo of Quinto is VERY close to the Photoshop done after ComicCon!
He looks like a younger Spock, definitely. I mean, have we ever really seen a younger version of a Vulcan before? Apart from the mess with Sybock showing Spock his birth… but Sybock’s not canon to me.
I imagine because of their extended lives, Vulcans retain what we call ‘baby fat’ for at least 20 years.
He looks terrific.
I’m satisfied!! Hair, ears… pointy sideburns. Not as Looong in the face, but he looks not unlike Nimoy in “The Cage”! And I must agree… I want to HEAR him!! Anxiety overtaking me…
Urban will be terrible. Period. But Quinto looks great!!!
A simple vulcan/romulan-esque poncho, and boots… looks like simple civilian garb, and I like it fine. Simple… conservative… Logical and in character! Now to see him in uniform!!
Supposedly there is a photo floating about with TNG era technicians, in uniform!!! I’m nervous about the costumes for Kirk and co. I don’t want a 60’s “nod”, I want the 60’s uniforms!!!
If it looks like a Spock and walks like a Spock, then it’s most likely a Spock.
Quinto looks great! The photos are…errr…fascinating. Can’t wait for actual hi res cast photos!
Amazing. Just amazing.
glad they didn’t do some weird headpiece like on all the other post-tos era vulcans… Nice straight shiny black hair. He looks giggly-good!
#41 — The question is, can it TALK like a Spock? Performance will be the key here.
He needs to lose thirty pounds, end of story. If you want a fat Spock go watch Star Trek V. The only film that EVER made Nimoy look fat.
Definitely Spock. It looks to me as they are being very respectful to TOS
I don’t want the 60’s uniforms. This isn’t the 60’s. This is the 21st century. I want something similar, but not exact.
Definitely think the photo is Spocky enough!
Very Spocky!
In fact, this is probably as Spocky as it gets!!!
I want the ’60s uniforms. The 23rd Century ’60s uniforms, not the 21st Century ’60s uniforms. If its supposed to be Star Trek, let it be Star Trek. Don’t push it away; pull it towards itself.
I agree with you #46. Something that reflects the original, but is up-to-date. I have the utmost respect for the original, but we do need to move forward!
#44. Re: Star Trek V: must have been all those marsh-mellons. Or he wore padding under his costumes to look consistent with the bulk of the fiberglass bodysuit used in the rocket-boots scenes.
#46) Yes, this is the 21st century, but wouldn’t you still like to see something that DEFINITELY reminds you that you’re supposed to be watching something that takes place very close to the TOS timeline?. Granted, we haven’t seen any “uniforms” yet, but I’d at least like them to be VERY reminiscent of what would be worn in that timeline, if not exactly the same…
I dunno, I know I’m a stickler for canon, and that upsets some people who are into this new movie, and I really dont mean to be mean, #27, I just don’t have HIGH hopes for this thing. Yes, I will see it and I can always HOPE for the best, which is the state I’m kinda in right now. I’m gonna let the final product speak for itself, I just haven’t been impressed yet
Man he looks GOOD!
I just hope that plot leak is bs.
In the video it looks like these stills were taken from a mile away!!! Did they zoom in through the glass then digitally clean them up?
That must be how they did it as security for this picture has got to be intense.
Quinto looks fantastic as Spock. Great job Abrams!!
I want to see what a 21st century costume design team on a $150 million movie can come up with if given the task of creating TOS-era uniforms. Recreating the cheap 60’s uniforms would be, well, cheap.
It states they’re shooting “Corporate Headquarters” in one of the pictures (it’s a sign in the window!)
#55. Trekkie1701D-
Good point. I saw the sign, but didn’t connect the fact that “Corporate Headquarters” is what they were calling the movie in the open casting call.
Hmmmmmm……Fascinating
And very Spocky of you to notice!
I bet Abrams can’t wait to get shooting back at the Paramount lot where “leaks” like this will probably be much less likely. I imagine he is not very happy that his young Spock has already been seen by thousands of fans after only 5 days of shooting.
Finally we get to see something though!!
I think he looks good in the make up. I don’t know why some people are so quick to judge pics like these. Its fun to get a sneak peek of things. But they are just that spy photos. I will really get amped when I see a more official photo of him has Spock. When ever that is offically released. Today for me has just been a really crazy day to be a Trek fan to the possible storyline being leaked early this morning, to Ellison’s reponse this afternoon, to now this at night. I can’t wait to see what craziness happens tomorrow!
I like it but I feel that Jeff Quinn and ben Tolpin from New Voyages nailed the Spock look as well!
Why does his young Spock outfit look…. Romulan?
#55
I think that is Abrams directors chair that says “Corporate headquarters”. I thought that was hilarious……. Kind of like how Return of the Jedi was code named “Blue Harvest” and the entire crew was walking around in “Blue Harvest – Terror beyond imagination” hats and T-shirts. Too funny.
Please ….a leak after five days is diberate people. JJ wanted Quinto to walk around with the ears and hairdo to get the buzz going. Mary Hart will be tripping over her plactic surgery and mixed wrinkles on ET by week’s end reporting this. This was a nod to the diehard fans to start the acceptance phase of the new cast.
Yes “ET” was pun intended. HA!
yeah i wouldnt judge..its prolly after hours of working and no makeup touchups either….its passable.
Nimoy had something unique in his face that Quinto comes close to… but still no cigar. however, he looks fantastic — pointy sideburns, the ears with the spocklobes, eyebrows etc. I am wondering if they gave him a wig or just a spock haircut. and I don’t agree that he should lose 30 pounds. Quinto is thin enough! maybe Spock retained a bit of babyfat into his 20s and early 30s? ;) either way, today I got the goosebumps for the first time since this began so it’s all good!!
#61. T Negative -
On closer examination of the pic, I see that you are indeed correct.
It is a logo on JJ’s chair. That’s Hillarious!
I deem you Spocky as well!
Goosebumps. More Goosebumps.
well at least they gave him earlobes.
Major geek wood here. Zach looks great! All you nay sayers chill out: because this. is. going. to. be. SO. COOL!!!
Oh, and the pic of Zach walking with the coat draped around his shoulders is where he looks most like the young Nimoy….
Man, I’m gonna jizz in my pants!!!
If you look at the full size picture at the IESB link, & barely squint like flier1701, and others have suggested, it looks exactly like they picked up (Nimoy) Spock strolling through the set in 1970. (had TOS gone a 4th season).
I haven’t been this excited for a Trek movie since TUC teaser trailer in 1991.
The location appears to be the Sky Rose Chapel in Whittier.
needs to lose some pounds out that cheeks
Re: voice: Spock’s voice had the distinct sound of someone who smoked cigarettes, as LN did, in large amounts, for a long time. Unless ZQ is going to start, you won’t quite get that scratchy low Spock-voice out of him.
This project is getting better and better everytime I hear about it!
Maybe this church set is saposed to be Spock at the Vulcan Science Acadamy annoucing that he has chosen Starfleet over them…….
As Kirk would say:
Ssssppppppaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwkkkk……………………….
He looks pretty damn close. But, let’s be honest and accept the fact that these new actors can’t look exactly like the original actors… It’s impossible.
Let’s just hope it’s a good story and that there is enough chemistry between the actors that they will be able to transpose it into their characters. Good Story, Good Actor/ Character Chemistry = Star Trek.
As far as the look of the film:
I don’t think it’s going to be all Austin Powers like. Yes, that would be really aggrevating and stupid. If they can get some of the “Cage” and “Where no man” look into it and modernize it that will be great. Some little refinements here and there and it will be pretty cool. The color scheme uniforms with the flare bottom pants can look acceptable if they’re made right. So can the rest of the ship for that matter. Subdue the colors a little bit and make things look a little more solid and we’ll have Star Trek for the 21st Century. It can be done….I have faith!
Speaking of the “Cage”. If you REALLY look at it and appreciate it for when it was made (and for how much…even though it was the most expensive pilot at that point in history) it was really well done. The bridge had a very interesting look. I sometimes wish they had kept that look through the rest of the series (The Black, silver and Gray) instead of adding all the color and the picture frame monitors. But then again, the monitors couldn’t be anything more because the show didn’t have the budget to have the constantly changing projection screens like they wanted originally (Stupid union regulations about projectionists).
I hope they have planets that where the environment itself sounds “alien”. I always loved that weird, almost singing wind the Star Trek planets had in the original series.
OK, now my question to any fellow fans out there:
Should they add Gary Mitchell?? I think they should but I don’t think it will happen? It could be really cool to have him as one of the main characters in the film. He’s an integral part of Kirk’s, and the Enterprise’s history.
I’m glad they got the hair sleek and shiny.
My first thought when I saw “Spock” walking with a blonde chick was “Leila Kalomi?” Then I noticed her sunglasses and his bottled water. So not-23rd C. Oh well.
I just wish the wardrobe dept. would stop shopping for alien fabric at the re-upholstery and drapery dept. Who wears such bulky fabric in a desert environment?
About Vulcans and baby fat–If they live to be 250 yrs. old, then it stands to reason that they age more slowly. Perhaps Sarek’s biggest objection about Spock leaving home to go to Starfleet Academy was that he was only an adolescent!
As to the uniforms, I hope the female crew are in slacks a la The Cage and Where No Man… Those skirts and tights were just stupid.
As for the leaks–I say bring it on! 25 XII 2008 is just too long to wait!
My two cents.
Interseting how this site gets all these leaked photos and stories.
^
I think the new plot rumor is total bs. This site is a paramount approved site. They would get in tribble if they leaked the real deal this early.
^
This photo of Zac looks very authorized and approved by Production.
73 – Voice has been a concern for me too. It will probably be the single biggest challenge for Quinto. With enough practice, maybe he can swing it.
Some of our greatest singers have been “aided” by the nasty cigarette. Nat King Cole (who actually credited smoking to his silky voice), Sinatra, Sammy Davis come to mind… oh, and Aretha Franklin smoked too. I’m not sure if she still does. I wonder if Tony Bennett smoked (smokes?)…
Anyway, if he’s a good actor, he might be able to pull off a voice that comes close….
All I can say is… Me likey!! He’s no Leonard Nimoy (who’s still a hottie after all these years) but he’ll do!! :D Mm… Spock…*drools* I loves me some Vulcan…*G*
I can’t believe all these pro-ana people are bringing up “cheek fat”! Okay, guys, after you’ve finished bringing up your last meal, I want you to go up to the mirror and pretend that the full glare of the sun is bearing down on you and squint as hard as you can. Then, you can come back and tell me about cheek fat.
Sheesh! He looks spot on. He will look even more spot on given the correct studio lighting conditions.
I would have prefered him with the very short hair as in The Cage, but well… he’s not bad like that and he really looks like Spock!
Hey, where ist the pic of William Shatner as Kirk? ;)
I wonder if Spock will yell and smile like Nimoy’s did in the early 1st season.
He looks more like Spock WITHOUT the makeup.
Will all of you who don’t care about cannon and are again saying that “no one will notice the changes” and “lets pull in a new desired demographic to boot “be there on opening night or will you be clinking your glasses at a private party somewhere bragging about how things were done your way instead of how the fans wanted it..again??? it’s been stale since enterprise but I will not give up hope. I wish people like frakes and spiner would stand up and be counted on the new trek movie, Where’s Majel? All I see on here look’s like a bunch of film school guys trying to make a science fiction movie.
I do sound mean but I love Star Trek..Without me and those like me, there would be no real negotiating ideas, we’d all be a bunch of yes men. and tghe only ones who appreciate yes men are corporations, Sorry guys,, we arent robots
Overall good, though I think he looks more Romulan than Vulcan.
It takes more than pointed ears to make a Spock.
Totally agree with #88. But then again…he’s definitely got step 1 down…and he’s hot! ;P
The amazing thing is that, looking at the thumbnail sized images it’s almost impossible to tell that it’s not Nimoy.
Folks,
Here’s what I don’t understand…
STAR TREK has the largest and most supportive fan base of any franchise in this history of entertainment. Heck, the original members of the fan base managed to even eek out a third season of TOS back in 1969! For forty one years they’ve proven themselves time and time again (insert Judson Scott speech here).
Yet…as far as this new movie is concerned…Paramount and J.J. Abrams have done NOTHING to curry favor with this fan base, aside from giving us a fan favorite in one of the roles in a very public unveiling at Comicon.
As a lifelong fan…I just want to know one thing, which is this…what is Paramount intending to do with the franchise?
What’s the studio’s hope with this new movie? What do they expect from the moviegoing audience? If this is a reboot…so be it. I can deal. If it’s not…why not? Why go back to the time of the early days of Kirk and Spock? What’s the reasoning behind all of this…?
I’m not interested in spoilers. However, Paramount and J.J. Abrams’ attitude toward their own fan base has provided fuel for the online community to SPOIL THE SHIT out of the film whenever possible. I don’t want to see this happen with a new Trek film.
But it will…on a daily basis…until SOMEONE says SOMETHING about the INTENT of this new Trek film.
This isn’t CLOVERFIELD after all. It’s STAR TREK. I just bought the new Trek novel, BEFORE DISHONOR, by Peter David. It’s not like Trek is some kind of State Secret.
I worked on the internet blogs for SUPERMAN RETURNS. Whatever you may think of the finished film, Bryan Singer went out of his way to generate interest in the film on Bluetights.net. We posted 28 official video blogs. We gave NOTHING away, revealed nothing of the plot. Heck…we never even showed Brandon as Superman. However, both the hardcore and casual Superman fan was able to gleen exactly what Bryan was going for from these blogs.
Not so regarding this new Trek film. If any fan base deserved to know, what, exactly, the DIRECTION is for this new film…it’s us. But just that, DIRECTION. Nothing more.
That’s all I want to know…what is the INTENT of this new film? What can I expect from the future of Trek as a franchise? That’s it. I don’t want to know story points…I don’t even want to see the new design of the Enterprise (btw…I never thought I’d EVER type those words…). I just want to know what to expect from the new film.
If Paramount doesn’t get behind this in some way…and give the fan base SOMETHING…ANYTHING…to hold onto…this film will be spoiled like no other genre film in history.
And I don’t want that. I really don’t.
Love Long and Party.
#88: among other things, he must be able to raise one eyebrow! :-)
Quinto looks just like Mr Spock
#91
I can answer that for you. The intent is to make money. The direction is towards more money.
# 50 … Nimoy quit smoking around Star Trek IV, we got to see the result in ST V – he’d gained quite a bit of weight.
Still think Brandon Routh would’ve looked better, he could’ve fit it in his schedule too seeing as Superman Man of Steel has now been delayed.
Let’s refer to Quinto’s “Spock Too” or “Spock 2.0″
Just wanted to float that…
MIND MELD IN NEW FILM?
I think Quinto’s and other’s onthe production teams cagey reference to Nimoy’s older Spock “being a guiding force” in the film may very well mean that Nimoy’s Spock Classic may mind-meld with his younger version and either reveal fuure events to Spock Too or in fact both reside at the same time in the head of Spock Too, conversing and conflicting with one another. Dramatic!
I find it odd that Quinto’s answer to Jimmy Kimmel’s question about Nimoy being in the film seemed to say that that wasn’t the case and it more complex like he was dancing around something. I think this was it.
Watch:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lg4T4w-zuGM
Your thoughts… give them to me.
Looks fantastic. Interesting that Quinto has the look of the series Spock and not the Cage Spock. At least for this particular scene anyway. Regardless, he looks fantastic. Love the whole costume as well, very true to Spock in TMP and the series. He could be peddling Keefus and Trillium in that outfit! And the ears are spot-on. Could it be the bad taste of Bernam’s reign is starting to fade?
TIME TRAVEL TO GIVE NEW IRONIC MEANING TO THIS ST:II LINE…
“I HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS SHALL BE YOUR FRIEND”
Another hunch… with Spock Classic and Spock Too teaming up inside the head of Spock Too to save a young Jim Kirk, Spock Classic will need to show or convince Spock Too that this brash, loose cannon human will in fact be an important figure in history and his dear life-long friend. Spock Too will be shocked and dubious of the claim that this young man, who he hill first meet while Kirk is cheating the Kobybiashi Maru test and leaving behind his pregnant girlfriend Carol Marcus, could be so important to history and to him. Dramatic!
The oracle has spoken. Respond.
Decaf. Definitely.
#100!!!!
Quinto IS Spock!!!!!!
Seeing these shots just brings a smile to my face. Trek is regenerating; I just hope Abrams & Co. get it right.
Robert Meyer Burnett
those internet blogs ruled. I would have loved something like that on here. Maybe you can contact them? “I’m the director of Free Enterprise “should at least open the door right?
#40 and #76 — Could not agree with you more. Looks nothing like the SPOCK from the Cage and that disappoints me. I have been saying along this movie should DEFINITELY HAVE the look of The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before. I mean what is the point if Abrams and company do NOT give the movie that look.? And please do not give me that “Nod to the 60′S” c—p!!!!
I do believe that Quinto will be awesome as SPOCK, but I want the look to match the era, for all the money that is being invested in this — it should be about the FINER DETAILS. Do this right or don’t do it at all!!!!!
I’m very pleased with Zachary’s eventual look…especially the ‘lobes’, and this is a very positive sign towards certain details…but I’m not sure about that top he’s wearing that looks like it was knitted by his granny…
However, he makes a very acceptable and believable transition from the original Leonard ‘Spock’ overall I think…which frustratingly for me, the Simon ( ‘Willie the gardener’ ) Pegg casting of ‘Scotty’ absolutely doesn’t, and probably won’t ever be…
*Goes into ‘Zen-like’ trance, and repeats over and over…’accentuate the positive…accentuate the positive…*
No interest in seeing the Spock i “The Cage”. That was a mis step that Roddenberry corrected. After that, we have the Spock we love.
106 – Wrath of Khan: “The Cage” Spock is canon–therefore, his look should come closer to that episode (in consideration of estimated time between academy and service with Pike) than his standard appearance some 13 years LATER, such as the period of “The Menagerie.”
107: Most everyone that watches TOS does so in a casual way; they like it, it’s quality, they just aren’t hardcore fans. They are the ones that this movie must reach also to be successful. To the masses, Spock is as we know him in the series, not one episode where his look and character was still being developed.
So, he will look and act like the regular series Spock, and not the first pilot. Just gotta be that way.
where are you seeing this TNG era costume’ed extras? I have not seen it!
Wow, looks actually quite cool. The photoshop thing earlier made him look a bit silly, but this actual photo of him in the makeup really really looks good. Makes him sorta look like a Romulan though, as most Romulans we’ve seen in recent years have prominent brows like Zachary has.
Doesn’t look like Spock to me. A good performance may be able to save that though.
I’ve not seen the TNG era pic, but been told it is out there….
Modern materials for the 60’s look, sure, of course… but don’t redesign just because we are not in the 60’s. Not everything old is terrible. This isn’t starting over, this is a relaunch. Changes with respect… and hopefully more than JUST a “nod”.
As for the Cage Spock, even Nimoy says he had not grasped Spock yet… we’ll have to glaze over that to some degree. His hair and eyebrows should match normal series Spock, as again, it’s what the mass audience will know… besides, then we have to explain how Spock started to vainly pluck his eyebrows and find a better barber! I’m hoping the rumor of the trailer with Enterprise under construction will be acknowledged in the film as Enterprise under RE-construction… the refit before Kirk.
and YES!!!! Gary Mitchell needs to be here, somewhere!! Even just a cameo!!! Acknowledge Kirk’s best friend before Spock!! Heck, even just a mention will make me happy, but something!!
It’s just as if I stepped through the GoF by myself and had a glimpse of my loved old Trek. I would have never believed it, but I saw “Spock”.
Lenny Nimoy is the adult Spock we all learned to know, to respect and to learn from and he ever will be. Loved and cherished by me and Millions of Trek Fans.
And Quinto is the Spock, we all yearn to learn about. The young one. What made Spock a Spock who never talked about his brother, family, home in general?
Quinto’s so downright perfect. I would have never believed, but my heart missed a beat, when I saw these pics. Theresemblance in stills is just amazing. How far will it go, when it’s “in motion” on the big screen?
*goosebumps*
I fear, I will have to breathe into a paperbag to survive the coming times.
“Go” for Quinto and Abrams from my heart and soul.
We old TOS-Fans will have a happy and amazing time, using all these fancy new possibilities to stay up to date in Europe (thanks trekmovie.com) using our imagination, optimism and being wide open for the future.
TOS is back, Spock is back! I could not have wished for more.
Let’s get some perspective here everyone. At the end of the day ‘The Cage’ was a rejected pilot. A great piece of televsion in its day to be sure. But it was rejected. We then get ‘Where no man has gone before’ which was picked up and then we get our three years of original Trek.
The changes made were made because the production team at that time (imo) thought that these changes would either be better on a long term basis (i.e. cheaper/faster/easier) or just be plain better than what was done in the previous pilot(s)
To get worked up about the fact that the Spock makeup does not match exactly how Nimoy looked back then is just plain silly.
Why can’t those that are complaining, be happy with the fact that we are getting a new Trek film which by reports so far is being made with the most respect since the first Star Trek film in late ‘79
This post is intentionally short because I am actually meant to be updating a server and several workstations at this moment…. :)
If I get the chance I will be back and try to make better sense of what I said earlier, later.
Peace and Long Life to all!
Vulcan trial? Maybe JJ’s showing us when Sybok is expelled from Vulcan for his radical beliefs.
Just kidding (I hope… unless having Sybok in the movie is a way to give something to Shatner for not casting him).
re #91:
I’m in complete agreement about communicating with us hardcore fans. Even though it won’t make a bit of difference in whether fanatics like us will see the movie or not, there is no reason not to engage us more. (although I don’t agree with you that it’ll have much of an impact either way on how much of the movie will spoiled).
How hard would it be to sit Quinto down in front of a camera (without makeup, even) and ask: “You’ve just been in camera as Spock for the first time, how was it?”, “How long does it take to do makeup?”, “What was it like looking at yourself in the mirror for the first time with pointed ears?” etc, etc.
Trek fans here would eat this stuff up. Abrams and Co would be sending the most die-hard of Trek fans a big ‘thank you’, not to mention generating a lot of goodwill.
Best yet, this could all be done WITHOUT giving away any plot or design elements if they so choose.
115 – I actually think the IDEA of Sybok works, but the execution of it was off. I wouldn’t mind seeing a young Sybok in a brief scene, to be quite honest.
# 107 Compassionate God,
Yes, The Cage is canon, but so is The Menagerie, and they contradict each other. In the first, the woman gets to have her Pike, and be beautiful, in the latter, Pike actually does go with her, body restored. Sometimes you need to correct something. Like Troi being able to psychically communicate to Riker, or hey – Spock smiling.
You need to be respectful of canon, but the fact is, the Spock EVERYONE knows and loves, is the Spock post-Cage and all the movies. Roddenberry et al found what the character should be and stuck to that. As it should be. That’s the Spock I want to see.
re: 114. Mark Lynch
Agreed. I am willing to not get bogged down in minutiae here and maintain a little willing suspension of disbelief so long as the story and overall feel are true to Trek. If the cut of the cloth isn’t exactly as it was, or someone’s hair is a millimeter too long I will not be PO’ed so long as Spock acts like Spock, and Kirk is Kirk, etc.
That being said i’m getting goosebumps with excitement just speculating on all this.
#116
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t want to know the plot, story details or anything that would take away from my enjoyment of seeing the flm the first time. The internet is a curse in that respect, and that is from someone that works in the industry.
Much like you stated, behind the scenes interviews would be great. Perhaps a handful of photographs, mainly cast, with a couple of our beloved ship, interior and exterior. But not so much that the magic is taken away.
Again I would hold up ST-TMP as the yardstick by which enough morsels were handed out to fans, but not enough so that we were not awe struck when we first saw Spock, then Kirk and then the Enterprise in drydock. I don’t know about you, but I was almost in tears when I saw the big E in her widescreen glory.
TTFN
Looks like Spock.
This movie will get the hell spoiled out of it whether Abrams supplies information to the “fan press” or not. The fact that some folks presumed to be representative of fandom are permitted special access will not blunt in any way the motivations of a lot of other people to find out and report on what’s happening at every opportunity.
Hell, it’s “Star Trek.” Contractor employees walk off with bridge chairs and sell them.
OH MY GOD IT’S SPOCK….
Looking at those pictures of Quinto is like going back in time. Really.
Re: 114. Mark Lynch – November 13, 2007
“Let’s get some perspective here everyone. At the end of the day ‘The Cage’ was a rejected pilot. A great piece of televsion in its day to be sure. But it was rejected. We then get ‘Where no man has gone before’ which was picked up and then we get our three years of original Trek.”
Because the movie is alleged to take place before the pilots. One can argue (I say on shaky ground) about ignoring “The Cage” because it was rejected, however, the moment it was used in “The Menagerie,” the ship, characters, costumes, devices and time period became a permanent part of TOS continuity, therefore the look is a legitimate marker of an era.
Again, if one wanted to reject “The Cage” (but the paragraph above makes that fairly impossible) the ACCEPTED 2nd pilot would be a stronger, legitimate marker that should not be glossed over.
History and continuity matter, and despite J.J. wanting to reach out to non-Trekkers, he must know that *they* (or at least the interested part of Trek fandom) will be the majority to show up on opening day. To this crowd–the same crowd left with the bad head-beating from Berman’s continuity trashing–continuity of visuals (as well as the important story) matters.
“Why can’t those that are complaining, be happy with the fact that we are getting a new Trek film which by reports so far is being made with the most respect since the first Star Trek film in late ‘79″
I would argue that “The Wrath of Khan” was produced with more respect (n many ways) than “The Motion Picture” but that is a another matter for another time.
“Peace and Long Life to all! ”
Same here–despite differences of opinion.
“Let’s get some perspective here everyone. At the end of the day ‘The Cage’ was a rejected pilot. ”
True, a rejected pilot that appeared in the 2 parter The Menagerie as a real part of Spock’s past. So in that regard, it’s all very important. ANd IF they go to that era, I hope they represent it accordingly, Spock make up and all.
Having said that, we are making large assumptions that we will see ANY part of that era. Just because Pike is in this doesn’t mean we will travel to that time period. This is an alternate timeline so anything is possible. Because of Kirk’s death, an older Pike may be in command of Kirk’s Enterprise for all we know. Which would explain the older Greenwood being cast.
Many many possiblilites, that’s why Time Travel is so cool.
But just because Pike is in the movie, is no guarantee that when we SEE Pike, it will be during the time of The Cage.
Have to be careful with being too accurate. I don’t want to see a computer with a voice that whines “workig” or a computer that takes up half engineering.
James Cawley, the fellow who produces “Star Trek: New Voyages” (and plays Kirk in the show) says that he’s seen what is purported to be the finalized design for the Enterprise itself (exterior). He remarks upon it and the subject is discussed in this thread at TrekBBS:
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=8270136#Post8270136
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=8270405#Post8270405
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Exactly. Speaking of, do you think they’ll use Majel Barrett’s voice for the Enterprise computer?
Folk’s, First off let’s understand that I have nothing against this New Movie at all. I am simply NOT a fan of re-imagining anything, especially Star Trek. I am completely put off, by the current Hollywood craze of Rebooting/re-imaging classic T.V. shows. Most of them inevitably fail, and don’t live up to the originals. I would be a hypocrite if I did not believe in recasting these iconic roles, I do in fact support it. I just don’t want the production design radically changed. I see Matt Jefferies designs as “TIMELESS”
and as “Pure Science Fiction”, I feel the Big E as designed by Matt deserves it’s day on the big screen. I personally Hope that this film makes alot of money for the studio, and that Star Trek is around for many more years because of it. If it fails the alternative of Trek’s Loss would Suck. All that aside, I do not have to be a fan of the production design. I have seen what was purported to be the final design of the New Enterprise, and I don’t like the changes.
Period. Saying that in No way makes me Not want to hope for the Film to be a Success. TPTB have been very Gracious to me and all the fanfims, I have many friends who have worked on All the Incarnations of Trek, and There are things I like and dislike about each one, But in the End I still Love them all! comlete with their flaws and warts. I am Hoping that this New film will reach out and Grab me, I am looking forward to seeing Leonard Nimoy as Spock One More Time! What fan would’nt! So although I don’t like the Production design being changed, I still want to see it, and I still Hope it is a success. Who Knows, it is a long time between now and when the visuals will be completed, perhaps they could change their designs yet again, that is the nature of filmaking, things change right up till the last minute, it is just the way it is.
James Cawley
And I think Zachary Quinto looks really good in make up! I noticed that they evenfixed his lobes.
Thanks for the link, Dennis….but after reading it…..er…..if J. Cawley is on the mark and the design (whatever it is) remains the same, oh, man……………….
Well what the eff does it look like please describe!!!
“It has wings.”
Damn!
pictures!!! we need pictures!!! there’s still time to prevent a disaster!!!!
(ok, it could still be a mistake or Romulan disinformation, but I need to see pictures of the E more than I need to see Quinto in ears)
They better not mess with the Original Enterprise Design.If what Cawley stated was true then thats Bull Shit
Depending on the view given in the teaser trailer, we’ll know soon enough what E will look like for the movie.
I think those commenting on the cape are off base. He looks like he’s wearing a coat over his costume to hide it. All we are seeing is an open coat (you can see the arms) pulled over his shoulders.
He’s wearing a knitted top of some kind over a high-necked shirt.
I’d like to see the original Enterprise in a film but I’m fine with a redesigned one as well. I really don’t expect the production design of the film to do much more than nod to TOS.
It looks a lot like what Spock wore in “Unification”.
See http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/ST-TNG_Unification_Part_2.jpg
Sort of like to see the Cage haircut, but would that have diluted selling him as “a” Spock?
Maybe.
All I can say is, if they’ve radically altered the design of the Enterprise, they’ve opened up a Sam’s Club-sized can o’ worms. What in the world are they thinking?
Everyone knows that the Enterprise was the star of the show. I’ll tolerate a blue-eyed Kirk or a beefy McCoy or a B-cup Uhura…but don’t monkey with Kirk’s ride.
Scott B. out.
P.S. Maybe it’s a good thing. At least that’s one less Hallmark ornament I’ll have to buy!
That’s Good. Can’t wait to see to see the film.
Are you able to elaborate on the design, James C.?
I could stomach subtle changes, but nothing too big.
Good!! Can’t wait to see the film!
Apologies, I accidently double posted.
If this is true about the major redesign, I think they may be in trouble with the film’s prospects of success with most fans, they’ll be relying heavily on new audiences making it a success.
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I think we ALL agree the original designs are iconic and timeless. But there’s also a lot of value in looking back at old ideas and reinterpreting them for a newer generation.
It’s amazing to me how obsessed some fans are with the LOOK of TOS. What made that show work was the stories and characters and ideas, not the freakin production design.
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I have to disagree. I honestly expect changes on some level. The uniforms, the sets, the graphics look of the computers. But, the E should be essentially the same. Why call it TOS, if you’re going to have a winged starship usurping the E’s name? Why bother calling it a time travel story when there’s no past??
Mind you, I shed narry a tear when they threw out the old Battlestar Galactica, but there was no emotional attachment to that show. There is a huge attachment to TOS for me. I was a kid. I want to see the old show in this new version, at least on some level.
Or, put another way, if engine performance and safety were equalized which would you rather drive: a 2008 Camry or a 1966 Corvette?
he looks like me!!!! amazing, except of course i had an accident as a child with a mechanical rice picker!!!!
incredible… absolutely incredible
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I have a huge attachment to the original E too, but I don’t see how we can expect them to modernize and update everything else about TOS and not modernize and update the E itself.
Like it or not, not everyone out there shares our love of “retro scifi.” My sister is a Trek fan too, but when she looks at the original E she just sees an old, clunky looking model from the 1960s.
I think the rest of us need to take a step back and get a litle more perspective.
Umm, I kind of think that one of the commenters on BBS had a point. Why would someone in a position of “knowledge” with the production invite James to look at a finalized Enterprise design only to have James go online and bash it?
Two reasons come to my mind:
1)This was a deliberate attempt to throw off the public about what the ship looks like. James’ friend knows that James can’t keep a secret, so under JJ’s orders, they have Cawley take a peek at “something” and spread the word, albeit wrong.
2)This “preview peek” at the design never happened. James is not happy that JJ is making a big budget Star Trek film without Cawley’s input, so he goes on a disinformation campaign.
Of course there is a third option that bears mentioning:
3)Cawley is correct and JJ has made a monumental blunder by redesigning the Enterprise.
I have been a supporter of what the guys are doing with the fanfilms. I don’t want this to come off like an attack on James’ credibility, but like any Trek fan, I need to have unverified facts verified. Talk is a commodity that holds little value. James may as well spill the beans if his story is correct. His inside source at the studio is obviously a burnt bridge by now, so if he feels passionately about this redesign why doesn’t he post a rendering of what he saw? Maybe that would act as a catalyst to get the fans in motion to plead with the producers not to screw up the ship too horribly.
Again, I think the world of what the independant fan film makers are doing and I truly enjoy their efforts. But something just doesn’t sound right to me. It walked like a duck and talked like a duck but people said it was a banana.
149th! Yeah!
He does look pretty convincing, and that photo is pretty unclear. Have to wonder if it’s not even completed makeup, since it looks like they took some of the pictures while he was getting prepped.
LN did not gain weight in ST5 b/c of quiting smoking. What you see is a body suit under his uniform that was used for the turbo boot scenes. AND he looks great now- so I am excited. I think Quinto will do a good job and with LN there t help him along, I don’t think we have much to morry bout. Besides, LN is in the film, which is great, and if he aprroves- then I’m on his side.
worry about****
150 – I AM THX-1138
I hope one of your first two theories is correct. Or that JJ will re-do the design.
I am sure it’s a pretty ship, and has many pluses. I’d say the same about any number of ships in Voyager or Enterprise. But, the E is the icon. JJ seems to be embracing TOS, and yet rejecting a main piece. (I know, I was on the opposite side on the Shatner casting.) I guess it’s just an emotional thing. More than any part of Trek, I dream of an age of starships. I want one. I want my E. I am indeed a 6 year old kid again every time I think about a new beginning for TOS, so don’t expect me to behave like a rational 45 year old.
Is it too late to use Gabe’s version?????? Don’t believe it had flapping wings and it is a rather faithful update ( By the size of the portholes looks to be about twice the overall size of the original E)
I may be jumping the gun as there is no confirmation nor actual description of what James saw or did not see. But the wings thing seems creepy and I am not a fan of John Eaves starship designs.
I can’t shut up. Ha.
By all means, I hope they modernize the E. I hope it has teenzie little windows that can’t be seen from a distance at all, so that the white swan sails majestically through the stars, and so that the E is actually whopping big, not just three decks across the saucer. Revamp the nacelles, too, and add lots of wild-ass details in the close-ups.
Give her some kick-ass battle-shuttles. Rethink what phasers do and how the E jumps into warp.
But, please please please keep the basic asthetic the same.
149. DavidJ – November 13, 2007
I have a huge attachment to the original E too, but I don’t see how we can expect them to modernize and update everything else about TOS and not modernize and update the E itself.
Like it or not, not everyone out there shares our love of “retro scifi.” My sister is a Trek fan too, but when she looks at the original E she just sees an old, clunky looking model from the 1960s.
I think the rest of us need to take a step back and get a litle more perspective. ”
David, we have experienced a “modernized” Enterprise–in the Star Trek movies. Six films over the span of twelve years. Been there, done that.
Keeping in theme with a pre-TOS story, we also suffered with “Enterprise” which completely trashed any sense that the ship was of a pre-TOS era, looking more like yet another TNG era ship.
So again, its been there, done that with revision.
The popularity of the classic ship design in modern film productions was proven in Trek history: DS9’s “Trials and Tribble-ations” and the mirror 2-parter on “Enterprise.” In both cases, we witnessed the original hull design (not to mention interiors) through current stock, lighting and cinematography and what was the result? Two of the most popular episodes of both series! Fans embraced it, because if handled as in the two times before, the classic designs work.
Changing the Enterprise into some winged, revisionist thing smells like revision just to be different, not because it is what was absolutely necessary.
I agree with some of these posts. If they change the design of the Enterprise they will make a huge mistake.
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Or maybe they thought Cawley would LIKE the design, and didn’t realize how fantatically obsessive he was about the original ship. ;)
Great, Sachary Quinto , amazing seemed with Leonard Nimoy.
We all feel wonderful about the classic design, not only because we have all spent years with TOS and the movies, but also because DS9 and Enterprise legitimized the classic design as a valid one next to more “modern” ones. So has James Cawley. So have the folks at CBS digital. Seeing the Enterprise and the Defiant hold up in an environment of improved SFX and more contemporary ship designs (In a Mirror, Darkly) was special to a lot of us. The Constitution Class looks spectacular in the 21st Century.
Now the interiors and the technology inside? That’s another story.
To be quite honest, I sincerely doubt that any fanfilm-makers are being let within 5 miles of the sets, the costumes, or the designs. There’d be no point in doing so on a production that’s trying to be extremely secretive. Like they’d actually let some random guy walk around and look at things.
I know James. If he says he’s seen the design, he’s seen the design. Period, full stop.
As he notes, even seemingly “final designs” might be revised again later.
As much as I was being tongue-in-cheek in my earlier post (#139), I do have to wonder how much the design of the Enterprise has to do with ancillary concerns, like selling toys. Do they think that we would buy more toys/models/ornaments/statues/golf putters if the design is radically (read: anything other than adding some surface texture) different from the original?
Even at my age, I DO buy the toys — and suffer my wife’s long-suffering sighs in the bargain. I can tell you, if the redesign isn’t a loving Valentine to my favorite spaceship, I can easily take a pass on buying its little plastic doppelgangers cluttering up the shelves in Target this time next year.
Scott B. out.
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Those episodes were doing something very different from what Abrams is though.
Abrams isn’t simply trying to look back in fond nostalgia– he’s trying to bring TOS into the 21st century and make it new and fresh and cool again. This movie isn’t just a one-time look back, it’s hopefully the relaunching of an entire franchise. Does anyone REALLY expect Paramount to relaunch Star Trek by using 40 year old production designs and models?
That’s not the way to breathe new life into Trek. That’s how you live in the past and alienate the newer generation of fans.
One of the reasons why Spock reboot might be faithful to TOS whereas Enterprise reboot might not is because our current idea of what an extra terrestrial might look like has not changed since the 60’s, but our forward thinking logic tells us 23rd century technology will look considerably different then we first thought it would in the 60’s.
That bridge, with it’s giant protruding buttons, no longer looks like it belongs in the 23rd century. I’m not knocking it, it is gorgeous, but the general public will walk out once they compare the 23rd century technology they see on the screen, with their 21st century iphone in their pockets.
By modernizing the ship with today’s standards, you are in no way stomping on any legacy established in the past. The characters may still be the same as you remember, the story and meaning of Star Trek might all still be there, it’s message about hope for humans and the exploration of space, everything that fans repeat over and over as the key reasons as to why they still love TOS may still all be in the film. But as a “re-imagining”, the filmakers have an opportunity to update the visuals for a new generation of fans use to flat screen tv’s and cell phones.
I can live with some degree of change in the Enterprise. In fact I expect it due to the altered timeline. And hopefully I will enjoy the film, as I enjoy a novel or a fan film. It’s not TOS, but its still fun to read or watch as someone elses “take” on it.
Leonard being on board makes things a little difficult, but the change in the timeline is the perfect way to get away with these types of changes and will go a long way in helping me wrap my mind around it.
Having said that, just because some things CAN be changed, doesn’t mean they should.
I think the original Enterprise would hold up beautifully on the big screen and look like the sleek lady she is. I sincerely hope they haven’t turned the lovey lady into an ugly old soldier.
Sure, I’ll grumble, because the whole mess is completely avoidable and shouldn’t have happened… then I’ll remind myself that the Romulans jacked up the timeline….blame them, then get back to enjoying the show.
Just to add some gasoline to the “redesigned” Kirk-era Enterprise speculation, and to give the benefit of the doubt to the producers of the new movie (who have made, if the rumors are true, some encouraging decisions regarding how much of the classic Trek they plan to use), let’s assume James is correct and there indeed is a redesigned monstrosity with wings calling itself “Enterprise” in the film.
Is it possible (although I know this borders on ludicrous) that the time travelling Romulans have made such drastic changes to history that the Big E winds up redesigned? This might, for the narrative of the story, help to motivate old Spock to set things right again.
Is it possible that the re-appearance of the classic Constitution class Enterprise will be one of the visual turning points in the story?
Of course, that’s just my two stinky cents, and that’s how I’d do it if I HAD to go changing anything as familiar as the classic Enterprise. On the other hand, JJ may like playing with fire. There’s a high degree of probability that he’ll get burned, so I hope it’s worth it to him ;)
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Robert Meyer Burnett
those internet blogs ruled.
Agreed. They were quite well done. I remember searching for internet cafes to catch the new editions of them while we were on vacation. They really jacked me for the movie. IMO. they were ultimately the best things about the movie. The little touches like leaving in the crews giggles of excitement as the air cannon shot the baseball just the ending faded to black. A lot of very nice touches that I remember thinking were genius marketing on Singer’s part.
I guess I can respect if Abrams wants to really keep a tighter lid on things but I think he could give us something. If things are going to come out, and they will, shouldn’t he be the one doing some quality control?
I don’t know Mr Cawley, but I see absolutely NO reason to question his words. If he’s actually seen the design and doesn’t like it then he doesn’t like it.
I think the bigger point here is that each of us has a different level of ‘tolerance’ regarding how much the Big E can be changed before we get upset. Mr Cawley may simply have less willingness for change than I, or someone else. Personally, I don’t want to see an exact copy of the 60’s ship, but something pretty close (’pretty close’ being a very subjective phrase, that I’m not sure I can even specifiy completely).
Since we apparently know that there will be changes due to an altered timeline, is it possible that we could see two versions of the Big E? (one altered, and one much closer to the 60’s design?)
168 – That’s my thought, that the Romulans change history so much that Federation starships have a more Romulan look to them.
As to changing to the look of the Enterprise……….I SAY THEE NAY!!
If they’ve elected to redesign the Enterprise, then I’d perfer a reboot from scratch. Which, to me, would mean this effort should be a completely new take on the old series. I’d have really no problem with them doing whatever they want if this was to be so.
But if they are choosing to stay close to the original, I’d perfer to see the design of the ship to be as close as possible to the original.
As others have said, the production design will probably be a ‘nod’ to the original, but changed. That’s fine. Just give a more or less accurate ‘nod’ to the original ship.
And to stay on message, young Spock looks just fine.
OK, altered timeline E looks Romulanesque with wings. We get the REAL E when Spock and Zpock (who dresses Romulan) jump through the Guardian of Forever (if Ellison doesn’t sue Paramount into not using it) and fix the past, which is the future.
Got it.
I really dont like the look at all! If he is serving with PIke, was not his eyebrows a lot thicker and hair combed differently! Someone said you feel Romulan more than Vulcan with this look. Now I hope when he puts on his uniform we really feel that this iS Spock!
Folks,
Actually, it seems pretty obvious to me if James is correct and the Enterprise does, in fact, have “wings,” it’s because of Romulan tampering with the timeline. If so…I’d be jazzed to see this redesign. I love alternate timeline versions of ships (the Dreadnaught E-D from AGT comes to mind).
It seems clear JJ and co. went back to City and Yesterday’s Enterprise for their plot…which seems sensible, given the sheer greatness of both episodes. So why not revisit the concept?
However, the whole idea of Time Travel is simply old hat. TREK IV, FIRST CONTACT. Been there, done that. Then again, I like both SPY WHO LOVED ME and MOONRAKER.
It also seems they’re trying to pack A LOT of material into the film. I hope this won’t alienate the new audience TREK so desperately needs.
But heck, I’ll be the first one in line to buy a Romulan/Federation hybrid toy from Diamond Select.
My god! “The Cage” was a prototype for the real star trek. Be glad that they are going to put it on the big screen. Nitpicking sucks! I can’t believe that some people are discussing about eyebrows…
I’m all for keeping the classic look of Star Trek, but I think it’s a bit unfair to all the creative folks involved to simply copy Jeffrie’s Enterprise. It’s unfair to the audience too. Paramount understands that paying audiences want to see something new and fresh, not the old series polished up for the big screen. I’m sure Abrams has many little tributes planned to the old series, in the form of props and models that will make onto the screen one way or the other.
The world is big enough for classic Trek and new Trek. I’ll enjoy them both.
I Just read Cawley’s post. Hmmmm. All I can say is if HE actually saw the designs for the new E – then it won’t be long before pictures are out on the net.
Would it not be a sick joke if JJ just thru on some quick makeup..just to fool us fans and this is not even the final version of Spock at all!! Anyway I hope they do give us the Cage looking Spock for one reason. His 1st Captain is in the film. We have to stay commited to that look!!!
178- “Paramount understands that paying audiences want to see something new and fresh, not the old series polished up for the big screen.”
Really? Clearly, Paramount doesn’t understand me then.
Interesting about the ship. I believe james Cawley was shown a ship that was presented to him as being the new Enterprise.
I’m sure the person showing it to James, believed it to be the new Enterprise.
Whether or not it actually IS the Enterprise from the movie has yet to be determined.
Besides losing 20-30 lbs could’nt hurt either to give us that chiseled chin look that Nimoy had.
Zachary is great as Spock! I’m hurry to see the first official promoshoots and the trailers!
To quote Leonard’s wife, Susan, upon seeing Quinto at Comiccon, “This is creepy.”
But in a *good* way!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Maybe Gary Seven’ll go back and set things straight.
He looks fabulous. Now he just needs to work on the voice and keeping his eyebrows down…
He looks fine I think
To be honest though, I dont know what to be surpised about –
the pointed ears are kind of essential for the role ;-)
he looks amazing. cant wait to see him in full starfleet uniform on the bridge!! way to go zach!!!
greg
united kingdom
Well, he looks kinda like Spock. Now, his acting is something else entirely – we’ll see…
My guess is that they’ll make the move to pass way before the “OFFICIAL” Enterprise (seen in TOS)…
Possibly there will be a “retro-futuristic” design for the PRIOR ship (before Kirk’s captaincy) Enterprise (or even other ship) that will be in Captain Pike’s command…
My guess is that the movie will end quite like ST IV, with the “brand new” USS Enterprise” being constructed or being passed to Kirk’s hands…!!
But if the movie is set in an Academy time (or in sometime soon after that) this is also improbable… So, the USS Enterprise (TOS era), as we know it, maybe doesn’t even make it to appear in the movie…
As for Quinto… He seems OK as a young Spock, but i agree that he could look a little thinner for the part. And as of characterization, more up-righted brows and uneven fringe would maybe approximate the character from what is (was?) established in the original series…
But it’s ok… I’m more worried with the all in all design – sets, uniforms, etc.
WOW!! The resemblance is uncanny, that could easily be Leonard Nimoy in those pictures!! I’m sold!! :D
I find it funny people keep saying Quinto should be thinner, he is thin for cryin’ out loud!
Looks cool.
But he needs a haircut, those eyebrows are gonna disappear through his fringe if he does the Spock frown ;)
Re “chubby” Zpock, ya gotta remember that he just left home after a lifetime of eating Mama Amanda’s home cookin’!
ZPOCK: I found the mac and cheese and sweet potato pie to be agreeable, Mother.
AMANDA: Come on, Bubbela, have some more!
ZPOCK: Very well, if you insist.
:-D
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Zachary looks like the Spock I’ve watched for 40+ years.
The resemblance is there. Remember, these are actors playing a character. Bruce Greenwood did not have to look identical to JFK to nail the part in 13 Days(Greenwood is Pike in the new Star Trek film).
It’s amazing how quickly some of you fanwimps want to bail on this picture. Some of you were condemning it even before it started filming! Bunch of sodding cowards and nancy boys you are! Why don’t you just shut up, sit down and start watching Stargate reruns?
Looks good, i hope he can act.
LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#199
Not quite…
If James Cawley’s right about the ‘Enterprise’ exterior, then J.J. and his production designer Scott Chambliss have taken a major mis-stepped turn to the dark side in my book…
What next?…no ‘minis’ for the ladies?… :(
Quinto looks great as Spock! I can’t wait to see his performance. I’m not hung up on the uniforms and ship looking exactly like they did on the TV Show, but I am hoping there will be a good likeness.
i dunno, spock had high, hollow cheeks, this guy looks like he should lay off the ben & jerry’s for a few weeks
they could of at least applied some makeup to give the impression of higher cheek bones… is this guy hoarding acorns in his?
Cool to see that Abrams is at least giving Spock the correct hair cut. That’s at least one element of canon they’re not needlessly throwing out the window for the sake of it.
#97 Re the Kimmel interview:
I think Quinto was just trying to dodge Kimmel’s bullet w/o really revealing anything about the level of Nimoy’s involvement or anything else about the film, for that matter. I also think that Kimmel’s a closeted Trekkie!
TPTB are being so secretive, you gotta wonder whether the Dept. of Defense is producing this, rather than Paramount. Really, JJ and Bad Robot should take over the Dept. of Homeland Security duties. They’d probably be much better at it.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
That looks like a wig to me, a very good wig, but I’m almost positive it’s a wig. No wigs should be allowed! Get a real haircut like a real Vulcan.
I’ll bet he had a lot of fun getting his eyebrows plucked and shaved. LOL
I feel sorry for young Zac, everybody and his grandma is going to be scrutinizing every little nitpicky thing about him and his performance. It was easier for Leonard because he was first and got to set the standard, now Zac has to try to live up to that standard. I don’t envy him…….well……. actually I do. But I hope he has a thick skin.
202. ‘Is this guy hoarding acorns in his cheeks?’, says the fat guy.
I went as Spock for Halloween. :)
ZQ looks great!
205. Yeah, looks like a wig to me too, or maybe hair extensions. I was hoping he’d have his hair cut like Spock as ZQ’s pretty much got the right hair type anyway…I was hoping they’d avoid any Next Generation type wigs which marred the the last Star Trek movie by looking too fake.
In fact, I was hoping to see Spock with longer hair ala ST: The Motion Picture, with him having his famous Spock basin-cut do once he boards the Enterprise…oh well. No Spock eye shadow either from what I can make out, but he does look great.
Not sure about the potato sack pullover – again, looks a bit too Next Gen Romulan for me. Spock’s black garb from the Motion Picture or Star Trek 6 would be more fitting.
I’m only judging by these few pics, so I’m sure there’ll be more outfits I’ll like!
Any news on the casting of Sarek?
Wow, he really does….n’t look that much like Nimoy. His nose is the wrong shape.
Oh well, I second what people are saying about his voice. That’s the make or break. From appearances, he certainly looks Vulcan, but not as much like Spock as he probably could.
#209 Spock Jenkins “Not sure about the potato sack pullover”
I just finished watching Balance Of Terror TOS HD-DVD and it’s amazing how similar Quinto’s wardrobe looks compared to the uniforms worn by the Romulans in that episode…….coincidence? I think not!!
I really dont see this guy as Spock yet!! All we are doing is giving Spock some interesting eyebrow changes fromtthick to thin to thick again. I hands down prefer the cage look, ZQ should have lost weight and lifted a little iron. Pronounce those cheek bones and deepen the voice and I am a believer. Until then I am NOT convinced.
I really dont see this guy as Spock yet!! All we are doing is giving Spock some interesting eyebrow changes fromtthick to thin to thick again. I hands down prefer the cage look, ZQ should have lost weight and lifted a little iron. Pronounce those cheek bones and deepen the voice and I am a believer. Until then I am NOT convinced.