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	<title>Comments on: Sneak Peek At Unaired TOS-R Episodes</title>
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		<title>By: Commodore Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commodore Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#104:  and Paul Allen also financed SpaceShipOne.

I must admit that I&#039;m an old fart that doesn&#039;t understand such lingo as 16 X 9, 4:3, etc.  I think I&#039;ve asked this stupid question before:  will HD DVDs work on non-HD DVD players?  Because I have a non-DVD player, and I don&#039;t intend on buying an HD player until (God forbid) the vast majority of DVDs are released exclusively in HD.  I also don&#039;t intend on replacing my 1995 Monkey Ward&#039;s, 20&quot;, non-stereo, non-HD T.V. until it doesn&#039;t work anymore (I have to press the on/off switch a few times before it turns on; but, to date, it always turns on eventually).

I also don&#039;t get the video game comparisons.  I&#039;ve got a PS2, and I have yet to play a game that looks as realistic as CBS-D&#039;s work, even the bad scenes.

I&#039;ve also clicked on the links on many of ths site&#039;s posts to the work of other CG artists (e.g., the one on this thread of the Big E in spacedock).  To me, the vast majority of it is great art, but usually doesn&#039;t look as realistic to me as CBS-D&#039;s work.  Maybe it&#039;s the lack of motion; perhaps a pan by the spacedocked Enterprise, with vehicles/astronauts moving around it, would fool the eye into concluding that this is a photorealistic scene.

That said, I&#039;ll always feel, at the current state of technology, that large models rule!  Examples:  the Enterprise in the first 6 movies; the 54&#039; long Discovery in &quot;2001.&quot;  There were scenes in TOS, non-remastered, when the closeup shots of the Enterprise were very good.  An even bigger model, shaded panels, better lighting, etc. would be unbeatable.  Of course, CG is a LOT cheaper.  To my eyes, with the exception of the usual suspects from Miri, Balance of Terror, etc.  the CBS-D&#039;s closeup shots of the E thrill me, and have (together with the remastered original mattes, new, wide-angle surface scenes as in Spock&#039;s Brain and Amok Time, etc.) created a new excitement about viewing TOS episodes every week, which I haven&#039;t had since I started religiously watching the syndicated series every day after school in 1969! 

As for the first season remastered DVD set:  I&#039;ll wait until, inevitably, all 3 seasons are released in a boxed set for $200 or less.  That is, if I can play them on my non-HD player!

Now, to all you Young Turks and technophiles:  please don&#039;t flame me.  All of this is strictly IMHO, based on the evidence of my, admittedly, 47 year old eyes.

Thanks for reading.  Be thankful that we have something TOS-related to chat about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#104:  and Paul Allen also financed SpaceShipOne.</p>
<p>I must admit that I&#8217;m an old fart that doesn&#8217;t understand such lingo as 16 X 9, 4:3, etc.  I think I&#8217;ve asked this stupid question before:  will HD DVDs work on non-HD DVD players?  Because I have a non-DVD player, and I don&#8217;t intend on buying an HD player until (God forbid) the vast majority of DVDs are released exclusively in HD.  I also don&#8217;t intend on replacing my 1995 Monkey Ward&#8217;s, 20&#8243;, non-stereo, non-HD T.V. until it doesn&#8217;t work anymore (I have to press the on/off switch a few times before it turns on; but, to date, it always turns on eventually).</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t get the video game comparisons.  I&#8217;ve got a PS2, and I have yet to play a game that looks as realistic as CBS-D&#8217;s work, even the bad scenes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also clicked on the links on many of ths site&#8217;s posts to the work of other CG artists (e.g., the one on this thread of the Big E in spacedock).  To me, the vast majority of it is great art, but usually doesn&#8217;t look as realistic to me as CBS-D&#8217;s work.  Maybe it&#8217;s the lack of motion; perhaps a pan by the spacedocked Enterprise, with vehicles/astronauts moving around it, would fool the eye into concluding that this is a photorealistic scene.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ll always feel, at the current state of technology, that large models rule!  Examples:  the Enterprise in the first 6 movies; the 54&#8242; long Discovery in &#8220;2001.&#8221;  There were scenes in TOS, non-remastered, when the closeup shots of the Enterprise were very good.  An even bigger model, shaded panels, better lighting, etc. would be unbeatable.  Of course, CG is a LOT cheaper.  To my eyes, with the exception of the usual suspects from Miri, Balance of Terror, etc.  the CBS-D&#8217;s closeup shots of the E thrill me, and have (together with the remastered original mattes, new, wide-angle surface scenes as in Spock&#8217;s Brain and Amok Time, etc.) created a new excitement about viewing TOS episodes every week, which I haven&#8217;t had since I started religiously watching the syndicated series every day after school in 1969! </p>
<p>As for the first season remastered DVD set:  I&#8217;ll wait until, inevitably, all 3 seasons are released in a boxed set for $200 or less.  That is, if I can play them on my non-HD player!</p>
<p>Now, to all you Young Turks and technophiles:  please don&#8217;t flame me.  All of this is strictly IMHO, based on the evidence of my, admittedly, 47 year old eyes.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.  Be thankful that we have something TOS-related to chat about!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean4000</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/20/sneak-peek-at-unaired-tos-r-episodes/comment-page-5/#comment-314876</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean4000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet they could have for sure!   I just want this whole project ended.  But that means the next victim could be TNG...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet they could have for sure!   I just want this whole project ended.  But that means the next victim could be TNG&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: j w wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>j w wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the cgi 1701 still looks like massless polygons, more suitable to a re-imagining of the animated series than the live action one. they shoulda used a real miniature... greg jein or martin bower would have produced a model that could be shot from any distance and look perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the cgi 1701 still looks like massless polygons, more suitable to a re-imagining of the animated series than the live action one. they shoulda used a real miniature&#8230; greg jein or martin bower would have produced a model that could be shot from any distance and look perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, didn&#039;t see that this was old news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, didn&#8217;t see that this was old news.</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/20/sneak-peek-at-unaired-tos-r-episodes/comment-page-5/#comment-311117</link>
		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get TOS-R for $106.28 right now at deep discount with code DDAF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get TOS-R for $106.28 right now at deep discount with code DDAF.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Image</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Image</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#207 Jonathan
Thanks! $106.28 to be exact! Got the Toshiba HD-A3 yesterday at BB and AVOIDED the Trek set, thank God! No negative issues with the latest batch of players either, according to them anyway. Works for me.
(Get 2001. Looks awesome.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#207 Jonathan<br />
Thanks! $106.28 to be exact! Got the Toshiba HD-A3 yesterday at BB and AVOIDED the Trek set, thank God! No negative issues with the latest batch of players either, according to them anyway. Works for me.<br />
(Get 2001. Looks awesome.)</p>
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		<title>By: Holo J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holo J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>194. Skippy 2k

yeah it looks like her. I wonder if they will do anymore shots like that in future episodes? I like the idea of seeing more people near the window shots. I wonder if the argued over who would be at the window for that shot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>194. Skippy 2k</p>
<p>yeah it looks like her. I wonder if they will do anymore shots like that in future episodes? I like the idea of seeing more people near the window shots. I wonder if the argued over who would be at the window for that shot?</p>
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		<title>By: cyberghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyberghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know why Star Trek TOS HD was released for download on the XBOX Marketplace 10 episodes, some from series 1 and 2 with all the Intro and SFX showing in 16 x 9 format and acting switching back to 4:3?  Its great to see all the new ships, battles, etc filling up the whole screen without the bars on the side vs. the new HD set is only 4:3, I downloaded them months ago, when they were released.  Why would they use that cropped version vs. the whole screen shot version.  The work was obviously done on some episodes, why not use them.  

I am happy with the set, although I guess I was spoiled watching the HD XBOX marketplace versions over the past couple of months and was expecting the same, like the 10 episodes done with all the intro and special effects done in 16 x 9 format.

Also,  I purchased it from Amazon for $132, no tax, no shipping, why would anyone buy from Best Buy online?

Maybe a special edition on the way, it just seems like a waste and for you that have not downloaded them from XBOX marketplace, do youself a favor and check it out and you will see what I mean, especially in episodes like Balance of Terror. (Lots of space sequence)  

Download one episode from marketplace and you will have drank the coolaid...  But if you decide to download the episode from the marketplace, make sure it says HD on the episode or you will not get the reworked HD Version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know why Star Trek TOS HD was released for download on the XBOX Marketplace 10 episodes, some from series 1 and 2 with all the Intro and SFX showing in 16 x 9 format and acting switching back to 4:3?  Its great to see all the new ships, battles, etc filling up the whole screen without the bars on the side vs. the new HD set is only 4:3, I downloaded them months ago, when they were released.  Why would they use that cropped version vs. the whole screen shot version.  The work was obviously done on some episodes, why not use them.  </p>
<p>I am happy with the set, although I guess I was spoiled watching the HD XBOX marketplace versions over the past couple of months and was expecting the same, like the 10 episodes done with all the intro and special effects done in 16 x 9 format.</p>
<p>Also,  I purchased it from Amazon for $132, no tax, no shipping, why would anyone buy from Best Buy online?</p>
<p>Maybe a special edition on the way, it just seems like a waste and for you that have not downloaded them from XBOX marketplace, do youself a favor and check it out and you will see what I mean, especially in episodes like Balance of Terror. (Lots of space sequence)  </p>
<p>Download one episode from marketplace and you will have drank the coolaid&#8230;  But if you decide to download the episode from the marketplace, make sure it says HD on the episode or you will not get the reworked HD Version.</p>
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		<title>By: Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am viewing the HD eps from Netflix now. It all looks super great on my 51&quot; Hitachi RPTV. Connection via Toshiba HD-A2 and HDMI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am viewing the HD eps from Netflix now. It all looks super great on my 51&#8243; Hitachi RPTV. Connection via Toshiba HD-A2 and HDMI.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an FYI to all...DeepDiscount.com has the HD set for just over $106 if you use the coupon code &quot;PRICESEARCH&quot; which gets you 20% off of the normal price of $132.85.  The code is good until Sunday (11/25).

Still not going to go for it myself...I&#039;m still drawing the line as it were with Paramount and Viacom, but for those who must have it now, I just thought I&#039;d let y&#039;all know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI to all&#8230;DeepDiscount.com has the HD set for just over $106 if you use the coupon code &#8220;PRICESEARCH&#8221; which gets you 20% off of the normal price of $132.85.  The code is good until Sunday (11/25).</p>
<p>Still not going to go for it myself&#8230;I&#8217;m still drawing the line as it were with Paramount and Viacom, but for those who must have it now, I just thought I&#8217;d let y&#8217;all know&#8230;</p>
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