Having caught some ‘widesceened’ footage of UNremastered TOS, I am convinced that I will enjoy it’s cinematic look on a big T.V., even if some shots turn out to resemble the Siergio Leone school of film-making…
And at least some of the new effects might look better too, in that kind of framing…

I was more impressed with the TOS videogame for the Nintendo Entertainmment system than all of TOS-R. Seriously. Check it out.

As Deepak Chopra would say, “let it GO!” :)

Oh yes. A friend has the set, and i’ve seen it here and there, and the original footage looks great–which never presented a problem–that’s how all old TV–especially with the kind of cinematography used in the 60’s–should look on “home video.” It is the new effects which suffer, even on HD screens.

“You do understand that they were going for the aesthetic of the original shots while updating how those shots were produced? This wasn’t supposed to be a super realistic rendering of space ships ala Ep III of Star Wars.”

Then the goal should have been (among other things) to mirror the appearance of the miniature, and at least appear solid with a sense of scale–like the model.

“They didn’t burn the original negatives. Those DVD’s are still available.”

I understand that, but the standard DVD season sets–which I purchased when originally released–are simply not on the level of the HD version, and suffer from a bad transfer. I would say they are either the same as the laserdisc transfers (I bought them back in the day, too) or another that with not much done, as grain and other artifacts remain on the picture, hence my comment about CBS should have provided the pre-CG version on HD as a seperate release for all of the fans who wish to see the imporved picture. Why release the Remastered vesion as if it were the “only” one, while stepping over the fans who wish to see the original?

So, while they did not burn the negative, in avoiding releasing the original on HD, it appears to be another George Lucas case–where he’s only going to push the Special Editions as the “official” version, so bye-bye to the idea of seeing it on superior formats.

“And as far as shooting models goes, just who out there is actually doing quality spaceship miniature FX filming these days?”

I never suggested they were, as most productions use CG–but its HOW its used (as i’ve always said) that is the issue, as in my example of quality CG work.

If you recall, I compared the “2001″ miniatures to 2007 TOS-R CG, suggesting that an observer would think the “2001″ models more realistic than so-called state-of-the-art efx on Remastered, and again, that should not be the case, when TOS-R should at least take on the TOS Enterprise’s solid body/scale look.

“And regardless of whether TOS used stock footage of the E during it’s run, the fact remains that the continuity of the ship took those of us who paid attention, out of the moment. ”

I was always aware of it, but that did not bother me, because I realized what was going on, and accepted it.

“Are you upset that some of us like the new DVD’s better than the originals?”

Not at all. That’s your right to like whatever you want, but the PTB should never be so arrogant to push this new product on the public as though there were not efx problems (hence changing the 1701 “model”) , as though there are no fans who want to see the original versions on HD.

“You should come over to my house and see them. My set-up is sweet (not sweat) to say the least and all of my kids are enjoying Trek with me. ”

I’m glad you and your family can enjoy it, but I would find this new Enterprise more acceptable if it was on a pure CG-animated Trek series.

D’oh!

Funny thing is, on the very page he links, a full explanation of exactly what the design is for is stated.

Not the brightest way to start a false rumor, Bart. You’ll have to stay after class and write “I will not post falsehoods about the new Trek movie” on the chalkboard 100 times.

http://probertdesigns.com/Folder_STORE/Folder_CONCEPT-KITS/Ambassador_Kit.html

Enjoy!