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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek Film Franchise Started 28 Years Ago Today</title>
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		<title>By: Snake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see a remarstered Trek V with new FX and a new expanded ending....

Star Wars, TOS, Superman II, TMP have all had special treatment - so should Trek V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see a remarstered Trek V with new FX and a new expanded ending&#8230;.</p>
<p>Star Wars, TOS, Superman II, TMP have all had special treatment &#8211; so should Trek V</p>
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		<title>By: Doug L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would think the dvd sales of a reworked Trek V would probably warrant the effort.

Doug L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think the dvd sales of a reworked Trek V would probably warrant the effort.</p>
<p>Doug L.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Snuffleupacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Snuffleupacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren, if anyone should update TFF -- it should be you! I hope Paramount reconsiders and let&#039;s Shatner re-edit the film and let you and your team finish the visuals!

I mean, for God&#039;s sake! The film really doesn&#039;t even have an ending the way it exists right now. The final &quot;confrontation&quot; on Sha Ka Ree is just shit patched together in the editing room to make a final release date!

I have a sneaking suspicion it&#039;s just a matter of time before the film is restored. I never thought Richard Donner would get to complete Superman II the way he envsioned it, but it happened. The same will likely happen with STV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, if anyone should update TFF &#8212; it should be you! I hope Paramount reconsiders and let&#8217;s Shatner re-edit the film and let you and your team finish the visuals!</p>
<p>I mean, for God&#8217;s sake! The film really doesn&#8217;t even have an ending the way it exists right now. The final &#8220;confrontation&#8221; on Sha Ka Ree is just shit patched together in the editing room to make a final release date!</p>
<p>I have a sneaking suspicion it&#8217;s just a matter of time before the film is restored. I never thought Richard Donner would get to complete Superman II the way he envsioned it, but it happened. The same will likely happen with STV.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Snuffleupacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Snuffleupacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#199, I don&#039;t think any RA&amp;A footage should be cut back into the film as it was never finished. But, it would be cool to just have the footage shot as an extra on a separate DVD. I know footage exists, but who knows what shape the audio would be in...?

However, having said that, someone like Darren could take that footage and finish the effects digitally -- taking the wires out of the spacewalk scene and adding whatever animation (Richard Taylor of RA&amp;A told me they planned at the time to do even the glow effects for the bits as practical on-set visuals with on-set lighting. The bits were covered in hightly reflective Scotchlite and reflected the effects lighting.). and mattes were required to finish it up. Granted, from what I know of the sequence, that would have to be a labor of love as it would take many manhours to complete even using today&#039;s technology.

I have no idea what miniature work was completed. Probert says on his site that he saw some finished work...so, it exists in the Paramount vaults somewhere. 

There is no telling what exists collecting dust in the vaults. We may never know...sadly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#199, I don&#8217;t think any RA&amp;A footage should be cut back into the film as it was never finished. But, it would be cool to just have the footage shot as an extra on a separate DVD. I know footage exists, but who knows what shape the audio would be in&#8230;?</p>
<p>However, having said that, someone like Darren could take that footage and finish the effects digitally &#8212; taking the wires out of the spacewalk scene and adding whatever animation (Richard Taylor of RA&amp;A told me they planned at the time to do even the glow effects for the bits as practical on-set visuals with on-set lighting. The bits were covered in hightly reflective Scotchlite and reflected the effects lighting.). and mattes were required to finish it up. Granted, from what I know of the sequence, that would have to be a labor of love as it would take many manhours to complete even using today&#8217;s technology.</p>
<p>I have no idea what miniature work was completed. Probert says on his site that he saw some finished work&#8230;so, it exists in the Paramount vaults somewhere. </p>
<p>There is no telling what exists collecting dust in the vaults. We may never know&#8230;sadly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Snuffleupacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Snuffleupacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#208, VERY cool! Was Grace or Marty still in the band then or was that when Mickey took over the lead singing chores?

Sounds like you got a double dose of Starship that day dude! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#208, VERY cool! Was Grace or Marty still in the band then or was that when Mickey took over the lead singing chores?</p>
<p>Sounds like you got a double dose of Starship that day dude! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: T2</title>
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		<dc:creator>T2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9 years ago tonight, Star Trek: Insurrection hit theatres</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9 years ago tonight, Star Trek: Insurrection hit theatres</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#213  Daren Doc

   I&#039;ve followed your work.  I admire your efforts on TDM.  I would Love to see what you would do for TFF.  I believe that TFF could be greatly improved with new effects and the correction of the many errors--the turbo numbering etc.  I do hope that the Powers that Be let you do your magic on TFF.  LLAP                        Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#213  Daren Doc</p>
<p>   I&#8217;ve followed your work.  I admire your efforts on TDM.  I would Love to see what you would do for TFF.  I believe that TFF could be greatly improved with new effects and the correction of the many errors&#8211;the turbo numbering etc.  I do hope that the Powers that Be let you do your magic on TFF.  LLAP                        Derek</p>
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		<title>By: DarenDoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarenDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually didn&#039;t render dirt for the new effects... we did, however, add grain.  

I&#039;d love for the chance to go back to TMP and bring it up to HD quality, as I&#039;m sure my partners Dave Fein and Mike Matessino would as well.  As far as I know, no plans for doing that exist.

The idea for doing that kind of update to Trek V was a good one too, and I was part of pitching that as well... but I believe the studio at that time had no interest in pursuing it...  a real shame.

It would be a lot of fun to bring the old team back together and bring the movie into the next century...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually didn&#8217;t render dirt for the new effects&#8230; we did, however, add grain.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love for the chance to go back to TMP and bring it up to HD quality, as I&#8217;m sure my partners Dave Fein and Mike Matessino would as well.  As far as I know, no plans for doing that exist.</p>
<p>The idea for doing that kind of update to Trek V was a good one too, and I was part of pitching that as well&#8230; but I believe the studio at that time had no interest in pursuing it&#8230;  a real shame.</p>
<p>It would be a lot of fun to bring the old team back together and bring the movie into the next century&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TMP is a film it took me a long time to appreciate. It&#039;s very different from almost every Trek ever made. It also had issues with pacing and FX that weren&#039;t solved until the Director&#039;s Edition.

I was four when the film came out and first saw it on VHS in 1983. As an eight year old who loved the colour and boldness of TOS, it was very disappointing. As a 27 year old in 2002, I was a very happy bunny to see the movie better paced and very faithful new FX blending almost seamlessly with the originals!

I was disappointed at how dirty the print was and it seemed bizarre for Daren and his team&#039;s FX to have to render dirt on their images to blend them better!

The two things I&#039;m really hoping for when the Trek films get HD release are a fully-cleaned TMP with additional FX rebuilt in HD by Daren and for someone to buff up the original FX in STV:TFF. A bit of restructuring and some new FX would make all the difference in Shatner&#039;s film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TMP is a film it took me a long time to appreciate. It&#8217;s very different from almost every Trek ever made. It also had issues with pacing and FX that weren&#8217;t solved until the Director&#8217;s Edition.</p>
<p>I was four when the film came out and first saw it on VHS in 1983. As an eight year old who loved the colour and boldness of TOS, it was very disappointing. As a 27 year old in 2002, I was a very happy bunny to see the movie better paced and very faithful new FX blending almost seamlessly with the originals!</p>
<p>I was disappointed at how dirty the print was and it seemed bizarre for Daren and his team&#8217;s FX to have to render dirt on their images to blend them better!</p>
<p>The two things I&#8217;m really hoping for when the Trek films get HD release are a fully-cleaned TMP with additional FX rebuilt in HD by Daren and for someone to buff up the original FX in STV:TFF. A bit of restructuring and some new FX would make all the difference in Shatner&#8217;s film.</p>
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		<title>By: JBS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with #203 Sebastian.
We just need a really good movie, and you can&#039;t please all Trekkies all of the time, anyway.  Just look at all the arguments they get into in these threads.

Good luck Roberto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with #203 Sebastian.<br />
We just need a really good movie, and you can&#8217;t please all Trekkies all of the time, anyway.  Just look at all the arguments they get into in these threads.</p>
<p>Good luck Roberto.</p>
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