In fact, I’ve changed my mind about Final Frontier due to your elucidating arguments. I now view it as the finest movie in the Star Trek series. In fact, I now view it as perhaps the finest movie ever to be released. The writing, the directing, the stunt work, the effects, all top notch stuff.

Thank you so much for setting me straight. I now see the folly in finding fault with anything related to TOS. I didn’t realize they could do no wrong, that William Shatner was pretty much perfect.

Man do I ever feel stupid. Ashamed, in fact. God bless you.

Really?

..from your previous post, 97-

“Are we really supposed to believe that Kirk is climbing that sheer rock wall? Come on, he looked like an overfed tick! Except when it was a thin, athletic stuntman, which was pretty obvious in a number of shots.”

Like I said. Arguments from Shatnerbashers are empty ones.

And I agree with Shatnerfan. It’s because these characters ARE each other’s family that they CAN sing row row your boat. I’d say the campfire scenes of Trek 5, without explosions, without Klingons, without spaceships, is some of the best TOS trek, if not THE best character moments of the big three that we’ve seen..in any of the movies.

As far as Kirk, Spock and McCoy singing around the campfire, it may have been corny, but that’s what families do! These guys had been best friends for over 20 years by that time. They felt comfortable around each other and, let’s not forget … they had been drinking. :)

I’m sorry Bill can’t do any wrong in your eyes. He ain’t perfect in mine, and FInal Frontier was a giant misstep. I don’t care if it made a billion dollars. Artistically it is nothing but a cinematic bucket of ego vomit.

Also, the fim didn’t “fail miserably” as you contend. It performed less than previous Treks, but previous Treks weren’t up again 100 million plus blockbusters like Batman, Indianna Jones and the Last Crusade, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Ghostbusters 2, etc. In the face of that kind of competition, the likes of which, no other Trek movie had faced before, I think Trek 5 performed admirably.

You’ve given very little reason to dislike Trek 5, while you take great pains, especially in your ranting in post 97, to TRY to and bring Shatner down with juvenille insults and “name calling”. Your method of debate might work on the playground, but it holds no water in this glass.

Star Trek V, one of the worst feature films ever?

You must be kidding. How about:

Howard the Duck
Leonard Part 6
I Spy
Anaconda
Glen and Glenda
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
Xanadu
Smokey and the Bandit III

Are you seriously claiming that STV was worse than those? So much for credibility.

I couldn’t agree with you more. “Row Row Row Your Boat” was the lowest point in Trek history. I squirmed through that scene. I don’t remember the uncomfortable romance, I must have blocked that from my mind.

I only watched that turd once. I still am thinking of suing Paramount for those lost two hours of my life. Even if the new movie isn’t very good, it’ll never be the worst Trek movie thanks to ST5.