he’s hiding his lack of half an eyebrow. Attack of a wild razor I’d assume

Stanky, you have never presented your opinion as a universal truth as a few others have and while we sometimes disagree in opinion, I appreciate your remarks.

A prosperous and safe New Year to all as well. Please use a designated driver this weekend when the Romulan ale flows freely.

I think that is the point of most people’s criticism. They are expressing what THEY like or don’t like and it should be taken as such…and there is no reason for them to not express those opinions. I don’t think we should assume they are always trying to dictate to others. I certainly am not swayed by the opposing opinions unless something about them makes sense to me. So far most of it hasn’t.

As for the “canon” and “reboot” issues, I don’t think the announced movie can be considered anything but a “reboot,” even if there is some attempt to include items of continuity.

By my nature, I don’t understand how anyone can be too excited about this with the pieces of information that have been dispersed so far. They, of course, have the right to be excited if they so choose.

I can appreciate your “wait and see” attitude, Xai. I have a harder time with those individuals who have the “this is going to be the greatest thing ever” attitude. I guess I am generally in the “assume the worst and hope for the best” camp.

Personally, the fact that they are using different actors in those roles is abhorrent to me. I know they can’t make this particular film without recasting, but that doesn’t make me like that idea. I don’t need to see any more adventures of Kirk and Spock, etc. as played by others. I would rather go without new “Star Trek” than have it become some unrecognizable thing. You can say that a rock is a tree, but that doesn’t make it so.

For those that believe otherwise, so be it. Have fun for as long as you can.

They are making a new Star Trek movie
That I think will be not all that groovy.
Going back to the past
They’ve announced a new cast,
But who will portray LouAnn Poovey?

Wishing everyone here a Happy New Year!

I generally agree, and I think that’s a key point. I for one hope they’re going to carry through with what they’ve been saying since the original press release, and make a film that embraces the existing continuity, but I also don’t see how that continuity is any sort of hindrance. From what the writers and producers have said, I think the parts that are likely to cause the most angst among the fans are the ones which canonical Trek didn’t address, but for which the fans, collectively, came up with a backstory which might not be what the writers have decided to use. That’s where we, as fans, need to be open-minded enough to say, “Okay, they have a different idea, but maybe it’s good anyway.”

(Continuity-wise, that was what ENT ran afoul of, too. A lot of what were claimed to be continuity violations didn’t violate canonical Trek at all, but did run rather far afield of fannish preconceptions.)

From the look of things, it seems like a lot of effort is being made to ground “Star Trek” (2008) in continuity, even including heretofore non-canonical stuff like the names of Kirk’s parents. The statements I alluded to above and what’s been said since, that they’re not rewriting the fictional world, are encouraging. The only part that still has me nervous is that nobody has come out and said, “No, the reports that the events of the movie are going to result in changed history and a whole spin-off continuity are wrong.” If somebody tied to the production would just say that, I’d rest a whole lot easier (though poorer, as the money I’d save by not seeing an alternate-continuity film many times will instead go to the theaters, distributors, and studio for the many times I will watch an in-continuity film ;) ).

All that said, though the film may fall well within continuity in terms of the storyline and the fictional world’s events and situations and characters, I do expect some changes in the look of it, just because there’s no way they’re going to exactly replicate a 40-year-old TV show in a new, $130+-million motion picture. My hope is that they’ll take the iconic imagery and bring that up to modern specs (which I think is far less difficult than some folks seem to feel), but there’ll have to be some level of change, and I guess that might be enough for some folks to claim it’s alternate anyway (though Mr. Orci has already told us that much of the production design is very faithful to the original concepts from TOS). Personally, I’m willing to be somewhat flexible on that aspect.

I suppose the question then becomes, does making something “totally canon” allow for or preclude some changes in production design, and if it allows for it, how much falls within the realm of what folks will accept? That might end up being a very subjective thing.

Best,
Alex

Bravo!

So lets just give it a rest

No more references to someone’s sexuality… even if you are “ok with that”… why bring it up? It has no bearing.

Comparisons between Trek08 and Transformers.. Same writers, different directors… different kind of story. Because one was at best a “summer fun, popcorn movie”, doesn’t mean Trek will be too. This is apples to oranges. Trek ISN’T based on a kids toy from the 80’s with a storyline designed to sell more of the same.

and assumptions that what YOU believe is Trek is the one and only. You only get to decide what you like, not what everyone else likes.

My cranky, crabby rant.

Good Day.