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	<title>Comments on: Chris Pine Talks Kirk &amp; Trek</title>
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		<title>By: Laserlover2254</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laserlover2254</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what, it&#039;s another universe.

Maybe change some things, but not very many.

I&#039;m hoping for pilot uniforms. And yes to the other poster, that WOULD mean putting the women in slacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what, it&#8217;s another universe.</p>
<p>Maybe change some things, but not very many.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping for pilot uniforms. And yes to the other poster, that WOULD mean putting the women in slacks.</p>
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		<title>By: tiberius</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiberius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think putting Batman, even a teenage Batman, in the new Star Trek film is a big mistake...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think putting Batman, even a teenage Batman, in the new Star Trek film is a big mistake&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stanky McFibberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanky McFibberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 100
Yes, you are confused.  The point is they should make no &quot;TOS&quot; era (hate that term) movie because of the age and/or deceased factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 100<br />
Yes, you are confused.  The point is they should make no &#8220;TOS&#8221; era (hate that term) movie because of the age and/or deceased factors.</p>
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		<title>By: Diabolik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diabolik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOS does need to be updated so that it looks like it&#039;s the future, not the past. Although it was visionary for it&#039;s time, real-life tech has caught up and passed it in so many ways, that it has to be made futuristic again.

The trick is to update the tech and keep the style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOS does need to be updated so that it looks like it&#8217;s the future, not the past. Although it was visionary for it&#8217;s time, real-life tech has caught up and passed it in so many ways, that it has to be made futuristic again.</p>
<p>The trick is to update the tech and keep the style.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59-It is not a foregone conclusion that the character will not make an appearance, although I do not recall (I have not seen the episode in awhile) it actually being said that they were &quot;best&quot; friends--just friends. Kirk was obviously an authority figure to Mitchell (an Academy instructor) from the start of their relationship, so he was probably a bit older at least. They do share an obvious skill at scoring with the ladies, though, and that could be entertaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59-It is not a foregone conclusion that the character will not make an appearance, although I do not recall (I have not seen the episode in awhile) it actually being said that they were &#8220;best&#8221; friends&#8211;just friends. Kirk was obviously an authority figure to Mitchell (an Academy instructor) from the start of their relationship, so he was probably a bit older at least. They do share an obvious skill at scoring with the ladies, though, and that could be entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Baron Byng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baron Byng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#100, #103: well said. 

It&#039;s like complaining that a Broadway producer can&#039;t mount The Sound of Music without the full original cast from 1959. Wouldn&#039;t it be just a tad incongruous to haul 64-year-old Lauri Peters out of retirement to sing &quot;I Am Sixteen, You Are Seventeen?&quot;

And like all popular Broadway shows and Hollywood classics, they undergo rethinks, revivals, and remakes, often with some updates -- changing a reference that a contemporary audience wouldn&#039;t get here, updated costumes and sets there, all the way up to the &quot;radical reinvention&quot; end of the scale. 

 It&#039;s a show about IMAGINARY future people zipping around space in velour jumpsuits and having adventures, with a good dose of liberal-humanist philosophy on the side. 

Trek doesn&#039;t belong to us: it&#039;s a property of Paramount Pictures. They can do whatever they want with it, including painting the Enterprise candy-striped pink, and I just know there&#039;s a certain kind of fanboy who will whine about it not being like the original show, but will still pay $20 to gorge on popcorn while watching it in the theatre on the first day. 

I think the franchise is in good hands. The Abrams / Orci / etc/ team seem much more sensitive to the material than Berman and Braga ever were. They have fans inside the production at the highest levels, for heaven&#039;s sake. But more importantly, they are people that understand how to make great dramatic action shows and movies. 

I mean, Alias -- was that show really about the Rambaldi-artifact-of-the-week or more about the constantly shifting dramatic tension between people who can&#039;t trust anyone (Arvin Sloane, Sydney Bristow, Jack Bristow, etc) -- the reason you watched week after week, aside from the thrills of seeing Jennifer Garner kick peoples&#039; butts, was Alias&#039; soap opera. And it was brilliant.

As to the look-and-feel issue -- I have technology sitting on my desk that makes anything seen in the original series&#039; run look like the sets of Flash Gordon serials, aka Captain Proton. People now have TVs at home that are bigger than the bridge viewscreen. We have iPhones and Bluetooth headsets much smaller than Uhura&#039;s salt-shaker-in-the-ear. We deal with ever-shifting user interfaces that don&#039;t require a fixed button layout.

I&#039;m sure they will extrapolate the &quot;Trek design language&quot; -- colour palettes, shapes, materials -- from TOS, but you can&#039;t seriously expect the cardboard and Lite-Brite sets of the past to translate to an IMAX screen. It has to be updated. Subtly, sensitively, but it has to look believable and cool to an audience of non-Trekkies.

Enterprise NX-01 was a believable extrapolation of &#039;what interfaces might look like in 2154, knowing what we know now&#039;, with none-too-subtle hints and references to the TOS Enterprise&#039;s designs and graphics. Extrapolate another hundred years on from that and I don&#039;t think you get gumdrop lights. mechanical dials and physical switches. Unless we want to go in some sort of steampunk direction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#100, #103: well said. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like complaining that a Broadway producer can&#8217;t mount The Sound of Music without the full original cast from 1959. Wouldn&#8217;t it be just a tad incongruous to haul 64-year-old Lauri Peters out of retirement to sing &#8220;I Am Sixteen, You Are Seventeen?&#8221;</p>
<p>And like all popular Broadway shows and Hollywood classics, they undergo rethinks, revivals, and remakes, often with some updates &#8212; changing a reference that a contemporary audience wouldn&#8217;t get here, updated costumes and sets there, all the way up to the &#8220;radical reinvention&#8221; end of the scale. </p>
<p> It&#8217;s a show about IMAGINARY future people zipping around space in velour jumpsuits and having adventures, with a good dose of liberal-humanist philosophy on the side. </p>
<p>Trek doesn&#8217;t belong to us: it&#8217;s a property of Paramount Pictures. They can do whatever they want with it, including painting the Enterprise candy-striped pink, and I just know there&#8217;s a certain kind of fanboy who will whine about it not being like the original show, but will still pay $20 to gorge on popcorn while watching it in the theatre on the first day. </p>
<p>I think the franchise is in good hands. The Abrams / Orci / etc/ team seem much more sensitive to the material than Berman and Braga ever were. They have fans inside the production at the highest levels, for heaven&#8217;s sake. But more importantly, they are people that understand how to make great dramatic action shows and movies. </p>
<p>I mean, Alias &#8212; was that show really about the Rambaldi-artifact-of-the-week or more about the constantly shifting dramatic tension between people who can&#8217;t trust anyone (Arvin Sloane, Sydney Bristow, Jack Bristow, etc) &#8212; the reason you watched week after week, aside from the thrills of seeing Jennifer Garner kick peoples&#8217; butts, was Alias&#8217; soap opera. And it was brilliant.</p>
<p>As to the look-and-feel issue &#8212; I have technology sitting on my desk that makes anything seen in the original series&#8217; run look like the sets of Flash Gordon serials, aka Captain Proton. People now have TVs at home that are bigger than the bridge viewscreen. We have iPhones and Bluetooth headsets much smaller than Uhura&#8217;s salt-shaker-in-the-ear. We deal with ever-shifting user interfaces that don&#8217;t require a fixed button layout.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they will extrapolate the &#8220;Trek design language&#8221; &#8212; colour palettes, shapes, materials &#8212; from TOS, but you can&#8217;t seriously expect the cardboard and Lite-Brite sets of the past to translate to an IMAX screen. It has to be updated. Subtly, sensitively, but it has to look believable and cool to an audience of non-Trekkies.</p>
<p>Enterprise NX-01 was a believable extrapolation of &#8216;what interfaces might look like in 2154, knowing what we know now&#8217;, with none-too-subtle hints and references to the TOS Enterprise&#8217;s designs and graphics. Extrapolate another hundred years on from that and I don&#8217;t think you get gumdrop lights. mechanical dials and physical switches. Unless we want to go in some sort of steampunk direction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheGreatBird</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheGreatBird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81, 82

Agreed. In spades.</description>
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<p>Agreed. In spades.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vulcanista</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vulcanista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 04:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#100

&quot;Star Trek XIX:  You Kids Get Off My G*DD*#@ Lawn!&quot;

(sorry.  couldn&#039;t resist, although I should have.)

Peace.  Live Long and Prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#100</p>
<p>&#8220;Star Trek XIX:  You Kids Get Off My G*DD*#@ Lawn!&#8221;</p>
<p>(sorry.  couldn&#8217;t resist, although I should have.)</p>
<p>Peace.  Live Long and Prosper.<br />
The Vulcanista }:-|</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Tompkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Tompkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going out on a limb here but stating with full confidence that the new Trek movie will pull in more than its projected $150m budget; that &quot;serious&quot; movie reviewers will give it 2- 2.5 stars [you know the type I write of- those reviewers who think any movie with a British cast based upon some archaic and arcane nonsensical love story involving Royalty or Shakespeare is always &#039;the best picture of the millenium&#039;, until the next one is ground out, like so much hamburger for the smitten &#039;critics&#039;]; that Quinto&#039;s performance could be a breakout performance that should garner some award chatter, but won&#039;t due to the &#039;subject matter&#039;; just as the entire film will be ignored by critics due to its &#039;subject matter&#039; and the preconceived notions that it&#039;s just another stale old venture into the Star Trek Universe, whether it is or isn&#039;t just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going out on a limb here but stating with full confidence that the new Trek movie will pull in more than its projected $150m budget; that &#8220;serious&#8221; movie reviewers will give it 2- 2.5 stars [you know the type I write of- those reviewers who think any movie with a British cast based upon some archaic and arcane nonsensical love story involving Royalty or Shakespeare is always 'the best picture of the millenium', until the next one is ground out, like so much hamburger for the smitten 'critics']; that Quinto&#8217;s performance could be a breakout performance that should garner some award chatter, but won&#8217;t due to the &#8217;subject matter&#8217;; just as the entire film will be ignored by critics due to its &#8217;subject matter&#8217; and the preconceived notions that it&#8217;s just another stale old venture into the Star Trek Universe, whether it is or isn&#8217;t just that.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Trek</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Trek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the batman begins comparison is apt.  That movie re-energized the batman franchize very very well.  And it had an excellent big name director behind it to help it along it&#039;s way.  And I think that movie allowed itself a huge scale like now other had, especially BATMAN &amp; ROBIN and BATMAN FOREVER.  I just recently saw the DARK KNIGHT trailor and am stoked beyond belief.  well, back to topic.  I hope that Trek is a similar aproach.  Really letting the full canvis show itself, and play out in a way that maybe one or two of trek movie did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the batman begins comparison is apt.  That movie re-energized the batman franchize very very well.  And it had an excellent big name director behind it to help it along it&#8217;s way.  And I think that movie allowed itself a huge scale like now other had, especially BATMAN &amp; ROBIN and BATMAN FOREVER.  I just recently saw the DARK KNIGHT trailor and am stoked beyond belief.  well, back to topic.  I hope that Trek is a similar aproach.  Really letting the full canvis show itself, and play out in a way that maybe one or two of trek movie did.</p>
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