Exactly what I wanted to say :). There’s more to him than the tough guy he often portrays… I absolutely *adore* his role in the Price of Milk!

I have no doubt he will pull off a great Bones.

Thanks for the Spoilers, true to the word. I have lost all interest in reading any of the other books of the series.
-Absoroka

Sorry about that. I would say that the books have entertaining stories, you just have to look past their superficial connection to the original Lonesome Dove…

“You want a good western story, did you see Jeremiah Johnson, with Robert Redford? There is a book that the movie is based on called “Crow Killer”. The book is much better then the movie”
-Absoroka

Thanks for the tip. Yeah I liked the movie so I’ll try to find the book…

Thanks for the Spoilers, true to the word. I have lost all interest in reading any of the other books of the series. It would drive me crazy, all the things mixed up from the original story. Killing off Newt (stupid, character with great potential), Pea Eye a younger husband, dumb. July drowning, dumb, another character with great potential.

You want a good western story, did you see Jeremiah Johnson, with Robert Redford? There is a book that the movie is based on called “Crow Killer”. The book is much better then the movie, and the main character John Johnston was a real Mountain Man, the best of them all. He led a real colorful life fighting Indians and the mountains.

I noticed in Dead Man’s walk Call would call her Maggie, and In Lonesome Dove her biggest pain was he would not call her by her name.

I read a review the other day for Streets of Laredo, Pea Eye Marries Lorie?!! That sounds bazaar. I would of thought Dish got her finally.

Yet in Dead Man’s Walk, where Call is around 19, he and Maggie begin their “love affair”.
I guess Jake Spoon was tossed out the window, he was a rival and many years younger.
-Absoroka – January 5, 2008

Yeah McMurtry, for what ever reason, rewrote much of the history.

SPOLIERS!!!

As for ‘Streets of Laredo’, it reveals the fate of the other characters from LD. Newt was killed by the HellBitch (the horse Call gave him) a few weeks after Call left Montana for Texas. It fell on him crushing him. Call went back to Montana, sold off everything, then returned to Texas where he made a living as a bounty hunter.
July Johnson went to work for Clara, but drowned several years latter leading horses across a river.
Pea Eye shows up and goes to work for her, and Clara encourages Lori to marry him as he would always be hardworking and loyal to a wife. -Clara was a woman who (ironically much like Call) looked at life from a practical point of view-. Towards the end of the book we find out she suffered a fate similar to her former husband Bob Allen.
Call is about 70 in the book, which is set about 18 years after Lonesome Dove. He doesn’t go down in a blaze of glory either. He ends up badly crippled, living in Pea-Eye and Lori’s barn where local people bring him various farming tools (knives, sickles et..) to sharpen out of mostly pity for the once famous Ranger.

That was one thing I actually liked about that book. It was achingly realistic in its treatment of its very realistic characters from Lonesome Dove.
BUT, one thing that did irk me, was that McMurtry changed Pea-Eye’s age. In LD he was supposed to have been around the same age as Call and McCrae, yet in ‘Streets of Laredo’ he is said to be considerably younger…

LD got me into westerns which is why I noticed all the changes in the books. McMurtry used real events and people in his books and had his characters interact with them.
In LD McCrae mentions the death of Custer, who died in 1776, suggesting LD was set some time after that. Yet in ‘Dead Man’s Walk’, Call and McCrae take part in the Santa Fe Expedition which happened in 1841. They were Rangers for 30 years, yet the Santa Fe Expedition would have taken place nearer to 40 years before LD is set.
In Lonesome Dove McCrae is said to be 2 years older than Call yet in DMW they are the same age.
I also think in LD -the book- it mentions that McCrae went to college for a year in Tennessee before moving west.

And Jake Spoon does show up in Comanche Moon, but his time with Call and McCrae is so insignificant you’ll wonder why they seems so happy to see him return in Lonesome Dove…

I noticed in Dead Man’s walk Call would call her Maggie, and In Lonesome Dove her biggest pain was he would not call her by her name.

I read a review the other day for Streets of Laredo, Pea Eye Marries Lorie?!! That sounds bazaar. I would of thought Dish got her finally.

Yet in Dead Man’s Walk, where Call is around 19, he and Maggie begin their “love affair”.
I guess Jake Spoon was tossed out the window, he was a rival and many years younger.

Amen to that!!!

“I didn’t fully read your first posting indicating that Comanche Moon tossed aside most of the timeline from Lonesome Dove, now that I know I may be less disipointed in the movie if I didn’t get the “heads up”. But it could still make for an entertaining western.”
70. Absoroka – January 4, 2008

It’s been a while since I read the books, but one of the most glaring changes was the Call and Maggie relationship.
In ‘Lonesome Dove’, Call was around 50 or 51. Newt (his son with Maggie) was 16, about to turn 17. In the book, it strongly infers the Maggie was the first and only woman Call had ever been with, and that their relationship (his visiting her in a prostitute/customer relationship) took place over just a few weeks. That means Call would have been about 33 or 34 when their relationship took place. Yet in Dead Man’s Walk, where Call is around 19, he and Maggie begin their “love affair”, and it continues on for over a decade into ‘Comanche Moon’ where Call is around 31.

Another thing is Deets. In ‘Lonesome Dove’ Call makes the grave marker which states that he and Deets served together for 30 years, yet in ‘Comanche Moon’ (which is set around 18 years before Lonesome Dove, Deets is introduced as making just his 2nd outing with the Ranger Company. Same thing with Pea-Eye..
I also believe McMurtry changed the location of most the ‘city-action’ to Austin from Lonesome Dove.

Like I said before though, aside from the Apocalypse Now style hell that Inish Scull goes through in Ahumado’s camp, I enjoyed the book as an adventure in and of itself…

I didn’t fully read your first posting indicating that Comanche Moon tossed aside most of the timeline from Lonesome Dove, now that I know I may be less disipointed in the movie if I didn’t get the “heads up”. But it could still make for an entertaining western.

I forgot about the series…

Voights a good actor, just doesn’t come across as a Captain Call.
They actually softened Call’s character for the movie Lonesome Dove. In the book Call didn’t get too weepy over McCrae’s death. He was more irked, lol…

‘Return to Lonesome Dove’ isn’t really considered official cannon…

“Lonesome Dove was a wonderful book and movie, Dead Man’s Walk, not so good book or movie. I did not see or read the others. I hope this movie is up there with Lonesome Dove, I have yet to read this book also.”
65. Absoroka – January 3, 2008

In my opinion ‘Streets of Laredo’ , the book, was the best follow up to the original.
‘Dead Man’s Walk’ though, as I said, completely tossed the history of the characters (as does Comanche Moon), made for the best follow up mini-series to the original. But that ain’t saying much….

I think they really did capture lightning in a bottle with the original mini-series. Lonesome Dove is probably the only movie that was as good as the Pulitzer Prize winning novel it was based upon…